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Subject: I just can't justify eating meat anymore

I am a monument to all your sins

god, why is this still alive? hes not gonna change his mind people!!!! (although this post probibly wont help kill it)

[Edited on 12.25.2010 7:37 PM PST]

  • 12.25.2010 7:36 PM PDT
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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
That's what they do to animals. Not all, but it clearly is happening.

Whether this is illegal or not, it happens.

And have you not seen how chickens are kept? Commonly? Actually in vast majority?

You know that the video shows common occurrences, because there are no real rules protecting animals in slaughterhouses from cruelty.

And the fact you make up that it was illegal (which doesn't change anything) and that it's not commonplace (which is not necessarily true) yet again proves my points. You just can't accept that it's evil, you have to lie to justify it to yourself.

So let's recap this thread:

- You start out claiming that humans are not meant to eat meat.

- After that argument failed, you switched to the position that the killing of other animals for food is cruel.

- Now that the above argument has been shown to make no sense, considering that ALL predatory animals kill for their meals, you moved onto abandoning the so called facts you were voicing earlier, and now claim that it's an issue of morality. Like the above argument, it makes no sense because other animals kill for their meals. Suddenly it's immoral for humans to abide by the laws of nature that apply to other animals?

- And now, finally, you have taken the position that all of that other stuff you spent 40 pages on is irrelevant, and that the real reason eating meat is cruel is because of the conditions that animals are kept in are unnecessarily deplorable.


Do you plan on keeping the same argument for more than 2 pages, or are you going to keep grasping at more straws every time your argument is countered?

  • 12.25.2010 7:37 PM PDT

Eagle Rock Blue

WHO ARE WE?!

I know it's bad but it's hard not to eat it... ;'( Iv wish I could stop...

  • 12.25.2010 7:38 PM PDT

I do not fear death, in view of the fact that I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it. ~ Mark Twain

Posted by: tjs0620

Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: Computerexpert3
Look, you not eating that animal means it died for nothing, the least you could do for it is eat it. People will still kill it anyways, no matter what you think

OWNED.

The komoto dragon kills its prey by biting his victoms in a exposed area. After he bites his prey, the sylvia on his mouth seeps into the wound and injects poision into its blood vessels. The victioms internal organs will slwoly shut down and die over a course of two days. While those two days the komoto dragon stalks his prey until it falls down. Once the animal can no longer move or defend itself the komoto dragon eats its prey alive. Eating meat is completly naturall. In fact we actually do the animals a favor by killing them fast and painless unlike the komoto dragon. Grow up and stop listing everything PETA tells you.

OWNED.

Meat is a more reliable, for lack of a better word, protein source than anything else. Don't bring in that "dairy" bull, you morality types don't eat meat because it's "immoral", yet, eating dairy is Much more immoral.

OWNED.

Our ancestors ate meat, why not us?

OWNED.

Seeing a pattern?


Some of them are similar questions
You mean like that appendix crap? I can't believe you're brain works enough to even post on this forum.


No I mean similar questions have been asked to these 4 or 5. The ancestors ate meat has been asked (and answered) at least 50 times this thread.

  • 12.25.2010 7:38 PM PDT

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Eating meat? Sure.
Slaughtering animals? No way.

I agree with a lot of points, and I would be a vegetarian if it wasn't for steak and chicken.

[Edited on 12.25.2010 7:39 PM PST]

  • 12.25.2010 7:38 PM PDT

I do not fear death, in view of the fact that I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it. ~ Mark Twain

Posted by: My Gamertag ls
I know it's bad but it's hard not to eat it... ;'( Iv wish I could stop...


If you can see the light, it's ok. If you did stop it wouldn't make a difference, because people here have shown me that they are too gluttonous to even admit that it's wrong.

  • 12.25.2010 7:39 PM PDT

I do not fear death, in view of the fact that I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it. ~ Mark Twain

Posted by: tjs0620
Eating meat isn't wrong, their treatment in the slaughterhouse is. Your whole argument is based on false assumptions.


No, eating meat from the slaughterhouse is wrong and eating meat for gluttony, not survival.

  • 12.25.2010 7:41 PM PDT


Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: My Gamertag ls
I know it's bad but it's hard not to eat it... ;'( Iv wish I could stop...


If you can see the light, it's ok. If you did stop it wouldn't make a difference, because people here have shown me that they are too gluttonous to even admit that it's wrong.

Yet another generalization. So I suppose if you like to eat candy, you're a glutton too?

srysly gtfo plz and let the damn thread die

  • 12.25.2010 7:42 PM PDT

I am the God Emprah of Mankind.

Deal with it.


Posted by: tjs0620

Posted by: RogueAssassin27
Eating meat? Sure.
Slaughtering animals? No way.
Slaughtering is just killing, did you mean torturing?


It's not torturing if they're dead. Even so better we kill and eat them then they kill us.

  • 12.25.2010 7:42 PM PDT

I do not fear death, in view of the fact that I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it. ~ Mark Twain

Posted by: tjs0620
just killing


I don't see how you can view killing so flippantly. Taking a life is and should be taken as a very serious matter, and that's why I completely disagree with you.

  • 12.25.2010 7:42 PM PDT

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Posted by: tjs0620

Posted by: RogueAssassin27
Eating meat? Sure.
Slaughtering animals? No way.
Slaughtering is just killing, did you mean torturing?
Let me rephrase.

I support the consumption of meat to intake nutrients. I do not support slaughterhouses. I know the little meat I do eat comes from them, but if I found another source I would leap at it.

  • 12.25.2010 7:43 PM PDT

I do not fear death, in view of the fact that I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it. ~ Mark Twain

Posted by: baklash 1337

Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: My Gamertag ls
I know it's bad but it's hard not to eat it... ;'( Iv wish I could stop...


If you can see the light, it's ok. If you did stop it wouldn't make a difference, because people here have shown me that they are too gluttonous to even admit that it's wrong.

Yet another generalization. So I suppose if you like to eat candy, you're a glutton too?

srysly gtfo plz and let the damn thread die


It's glutinous because you will kill an animal simply because you like the taste!!

How can you not see this???!?!??!?!?!?!?

  • 12.25.2010 7:44 PM PDT

Posted by: neoshogun
Posted by: Yoozel
Neo has officially been promoted to barf cleaner-upper and pukee hair holder.
I am honored to have that position. While your barfing I can steal your wallets!

It's creepy enough that people stalk Bungie via Webcams, but it's even worse how they stalk back.

This thread is too big for something that really shouldn't even be controversial. This is stupid. We are omnivores, naturally meat is a part of our diet. You all should be ashamed of yourselves for letting this thread get so huge.

  • 12.25.2010 7:44 PM PDT

óÓÒò Snow Leopard and Fox Hybrid óÓÒò

I vote that we let the tread die now

  • 12.25.2010 7:44 PM PDT

I do not fear death, in view of the fact that I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it. ~ Mark Twain

Posted by: RogueAssassin27

Posted by: tjs0620

Posted by: RogueAssassin27
Eating meat? Sure.
Slaughtering animals? No way.
Slaughtering is just killing, did you mean torturing?
Let me rephrase.

I support the consumption of meat to intake nutrients. I do not support slaughterhouses. I know the little meat I do eat comes from them, but if I found another source I would leap at it.


This man speaks truth.

  • 12.25.2010 7:45 PM PDT

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CONGRAGULATIONS, HERE IS YOUR TROPHY. AT THIS MOMENT PLEASE HOLD YOUR APLAUSE UNTIL THIS MAN'S SPEECH IS OVER.
AND AGAIN, CONGRAGULATIONS.

  • 12.25.2010 7:45 PM PDT

You guys are just arguing to argue at this point. No headway is being made by either side. (much like any other argument on the internet... hmm...)

  • 12.25.2010 7:45 PM PDT

I do not fear death, in view of the fact that I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it. ~ Mark Twain

Posted by: tjs0620

Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: tjs0620
Eating meat isn't wrong, their treatment in the slaughterhouse is. Your whole argument is based on false assumptions.


No, eating meat from the slaughterhouse is wrong and eating meat for gluttony, not survival.

Letting the animal die in the slaughterhouse, and not eating it is just a waste of life. Riddle me this: If an animal was killed in a slaughterhouse what would you rather do with it: Eat it for nutrients? Or throw in some dumpster and waste its life?


OH MY LORD YOU DON'T KILL IT!

  • 12.25.2010 7:46 PM PDT


Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: baklash 1337

Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: My Gamertag ls
I know it's bad but it's hard not to eat it... ;'( Iv wish I could stop...


If you can see the light, it's ok. If you did stop it wouldn't make a difference, because people here have shown me that they are too gluttonous to even admit that it's wrong.

Yet another generalization. So I suppose if you like to eat candy, you're a glutton too?

srysly gtfo plz and let the damn thread die


It's glutinous because you will kill an animal simply because you like the taste!!

How can you not see this???!?!??!?!?!?!?

I suppose killing plants for food is evil too.

Maybe we should just not eat.

  • 12.25.2010 7:46 PM PDT

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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: tjs0620
Eating meat isn't wrong, their treatment in the slaughterhouse is. Your whole argument is based on false assumptions.


No, eating meat from the slaughterhouse is wrong and eating meat for gluttony, not survival.


I can go buy a steak for MY dinner, not for fun, just because I'm hungry. If your logic, by some miracle, was correct, the common grocery store would be considered a "slaughterhouse".

  • 12.25.2010 7:46 PM PDT

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Good. Now that both sides have reached a compromise let's let the thread die.

  • 12.25.2010 7:47 PM PDT