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Posted by: PwnaFide
WARNING: ULTRA WALL OF TEXT. CHINA CALLED, WE HAD A LONG DISCUSSION, AND THEY FINALLY AGREED TO LET ME KEEP IT FOR A SHORT WHILE.
After 63 pages, I assume this thread has veered off-course to an extent. So I'd just like to address some things pertinent to the subject that are often stated in these kinds of threads. Good luck, by the way.
For your consideration...
To begin with, a couple of claims I'd like to make:
1. Becoming a vegetarian is one of the most economically-beneficial decisions you can ever make.
2. Becoming a vegetarian is one of the most environmentally-beneficial decisions you can ever make.
3. Becoming a vegetarian is one of the most beneficial decisions to your health that you can ever make.
4. The statement "eating meat is natural" is the one of the stupidest justifications in the history of... history.
5. People will never stop eating meat.
6. Meat is tasty.
7. TacBac is awesome.
Time for justifications!
1. Raising an animal, giving it food and shelter, pumping it full of your favorite growth hormones, and then killing the damn thing after all that effort thing is an act of sheer economic stupidity. It doesn't matter how you spin it, livestock slaughter is just dumb. And here's the real kicker: the alternative, growing vegetables, costs a ridiculously smaller sum of money. Keep in mind that we're talking total costs here: "creating" the product, transporting it, and putting it on shelves. Plants get the win in every category.
2. This is all old news. Sustainable agriculture is more environmentally-sound and it works freaking everywhere, from third-world countries to the highest-tech farms in the States. One thing that's oft-ignored is transportation: you can locally-produce produce (CWUTIDIDTHAR???), meaning you cut down on transportation costs, and thusly the dreaded carbon footprint.
3. "BUT THINK OF THE PROTEIN PWNAFIDE! THE PROTIENZ! TEH PRAWTEEENZZZ!!!" There are 20 amino acids the human body needs. 11 can be produced by the human body. 9 essential AA's must be "gotten" (wording fail) from external sources, complete sources. There is no one vegetable or bean or grain source that is a complete source of protein. Checkmate vegetarians, right? Due to the power of "eating more than one thing per meal", I think not. Beans and rice are a complete source of protein. Any freakin' dairy is complete. Protein shakes and soy are complete. Pick one. Pick all of 'em. Be happy. Now as far as the health benefits of vegetables, I don't actually have to tell you do I? No saturated/trans fats (unsaturated fat is good for you), no refined sugars, etc.
4. We do 5 kafillion things every goddamn day that aren't natural. There're even more studies than that show that most of the other stuff we do isn't even natural. Seriously. Running? It's out. Eating too much of anything? Bye. Obviously, nobody takes this stuff seriously. Your body will be just fine without it. But how can I be sure? Because, apart from all the scientific studies, I know plenty of people who are vegetarians, and they aren't just healthy. They play contact sports, work out, etc. and they're good.
5. It's true, kids. Perhaps one day, the meat we eat will be replaced with some "fake" meat, but eating meat is where our roots lie. We're not about to forget it.
6. Steak. Bacon. Chicken. Turkey... nope I hate turkey. But still, meat is tasty.
7. Tactical Bacon. Too awesome for words. Well, almost too awesome for words.
So beautiful.
you need meat maybe not to live but to be heathy and look at bodybuilders they are the epitome of being heathy and they eat meat because it is an excellent source of protien and b12 along with other things.