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From my knees to my eyes
Everytime I watch the sky
For these last few days leave me alone
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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: diadex
Tell me how the nutritional value of meat effects the morality of eating it.
Tell me why, exactly, I should care about a non-human, non-sapient, domesticated animal's life. One incapable of metacognition.
Tell me how the evolutionary factors involved with meat-eating for humans effects the morality of eating it.
Tell me why you think it is okay to eat plants but not animals.
Tell me if you think it is okay for someone to eat meat if that is the only source of food available to them and why.
Tell me if the manner in which an animal is killed effects the morality involved with eating that animal (ie, is it okay to eat animals if they are killed instantly and painlessly) and why.
Awaiting a reply.
1. That was an argument put forth by meat eaters. They said it was ok, because it was to make you healthy and to survive.
2. To answer this (well re-answer it, I'll quote someone else, proving it's been asked before.
Posted by:G O R E 25
Just reading some of this thread makes me think how -blam!-ed up the world is, and the fact that in all realism corporations wouldn't feed anything to starving children if everyone was a vegetarian because they won't feed anything to them now, simply because they get nothing out of it. Many of the ignorant meat crazy people ITT refuse to even consider that there is preciousness to all life, aside from their own, or that we are capable of using our higher moral capabilities as opposed to simply saying that something is morally fine just because other animals do it... In all honesty the meat industry is just another testament to human selfishness and greed
3. They can't physically feel, like animals do, like humans do. It seems people view animals as mere objects, like robots.
4. In the grand moral scale, it's debatable, who are we to take another animals life. But in all honesty, I would do it myself (probably) because it is a matter of survival then.
5. It does. If you torture an animal, it makes it worse of course. But if you kill the animal painlessly, and never torture it, it's still bad, because I cannot justify killing it for the taste. Ending another animals life.
For reference, those questions have all been answered before, but it's a good summary and imo, those are fantastic questions.I think you got your answers mixed up, because I asked six things, and you only answered five.
1. I didn't ask who put forth the argument. Please don't avoid answering my questions. In the thread, many people arguing against eating meat have tried to prove that eating meat is unhealthy. I asked why whether or not it is unhealthy to eat meat should effect the morality of eating it.
2. The only thing in your quote that came close to answering my question was when he said "Many of the ignorant meat crazy people ITT refuse to even consider that there is preciousness to all life, aside from their own", which only implies that he believes there is equal value in all life. He did not prove that there is equal value to all life. I asked you to justify your stance, not restate your position.
3. This is where you actually skipped my number three and went on to my next question. So what you are saying is that killing animals doesn't matter, it's only bad if they can feel it? Got it.
4. I don't know why you would eat an animal when it is apparently immoral. You don't have to eat it. You could always die. Why put the animal through that? Isn't all life precious and equal in value? Why is your life more important than the animal's? What you are saying is that it is only bad to eat animals when it is convenient to avoid doing so.
5. You said before that the reason it is fine to kill plants is because they "can't physically feel". If we make it so animals can't physically feel, what's the harm? Are you also saying it's bad to kill a plant if I like its taste?
Awaiting another reply.