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Subject: Wait...UNSC ships could EASILY survive plasma attacks.

We believe that the universe is unbounded: this is not the same as infinite: the 2-D surface of a sphere, wrapped around a 3rd dimension, has a finite size, but has no end. If you start off in a given direction on the surface of a sphere, you could return to your start point without having to turn around -- you simply go all the way around. But wouldn't that mean the universe has an escape velocity like the earth?

Posted by: Rawk to the Fist
Posted by: Bungie2

I have an idea on how FTL could be plausible in the 22nd century (seriously.) its been a long project, and the maths will take me 3-10 years to complete, but itll be worth it if correct.

~B2


Why the 22nd century and not sooner? If the math only takes 10 years we could do it before the end of the 21st.


The technology to develop and manipulate macroscopic black holes efficiently would take a LONG time to develop.

~B2

  • 12.26.2010 9:59 PM PDT

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See you on the forums and in the games.

Posted by: Bungie2
Posted by: Rawk to the Fist
Posted by: Bungie2

I have an idea on how FTL could be plausible in the 22nd century (seriously.) its been a long project, and the maths will take me 3-10 years to complete, but itll be worth it if correct.

~B2


Why the 22nd century and not sooner? If the math only takes 10 years we could do it before the end of the 21st.


The technology to develop and manipulate macroscopic black holes efficiently would take a LONG time to develop.

~B2


And you think we are capable of it in 90 years?

  • 12.26.2010 10:06 PM PDT


Posted by: Rawk to the Fist
Posted by: Bungie2
Posted by: Rawk to the Fist
Posted by: Bungie2

I have an idea on how FTL could be plausible in the 22nd century (seriously.) its been a long project, and the maths will take me 3-10 years to complete, but itll be worth it if correct.

~B2


Why the 22nd century and not sooner? If the math only takes 10 years we could do it before the end of the 21st.


The technology to develop and manipulate macroscopic black holes efficiently would take a LONG time to develop.

~B2


And you think we are capable of it in 90 years?

Humans have done a lot of serious technological advances in the past 90 years. Why wouldn't 90 years from now continue that?

  • 12.26.2010 10:25 PM PDT

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See you on the forums and in the games.

Posted by: MA5C 7RUTH

Posted by: Rawk to the Fist
Posted by: Bungie2
Posted by: Rawk to the Fist
Posted by: Bungie2

I have an idea on how FTL could be plausible in the 22nd century (seriously.) its been a long project, and the maths will take me 3-10 years to complete, but itll be worth it if correct.

~B2


Why the 22nd century and not sooner? If the math only takes 10 years we could do it before the end of the 21st.


The technology to develop and manipulate macroscopic black holes efficiently would take a LONG time to develop.

~B2


And you think we are capable of it in 90 years?

Humans have done a lot of serious technological advances in the past 90 years. Why wouldn't 90 years from now continue that?


Very true, just hard to imagine in 90 years, space travel and FTL travel being viable and accessible options for society. Obviously we can go to space, it's just very expensive and even experimental in nature (it hasn't become a norm of society) in my opinion.

  • 12.26.2010 10:28 PM PDT

Plasma can pretty much melt diamond-gold.

  • 12.26.2010 10:43 PM PDT

We believe that the universe is unbounded: this is not the same as infinite: the 2-D surface of a sphere, wrapped around a 3rd dimension, has a finite size, but has no end. If you start off in a given direction on the surface of a sphere, you could return to your start point without having to turn around -- you simply go all the way around. But wouldn't that mean the universe has an escape velocity like the earth?

Its also a money gap, although Capitalism pushes progress, it ironically slows it with money distribution. I say that by the end of the 21st century, if this is to happen, we need to force it through, get asses into gear.

~B2

  • 12.26.2010 10:44 PM PDT

I dont know exactly what to call it, but it has something to do with spaggetti, duct tape and razor blades...

-GamerTag- CopSuicide (used to be Weedpot420)

Posted by: opogjijijp
Covenant Plasma isn't actually plasma. Who knows how it actually works.


Cortana does. Now if we could just get her back before she goes rampant.

  • 12.27.2010 7:13 AM PDT

I am Godlike!

And just so you guys know, a heavy metal wont have any impact on a ships ability to maneuver. Weight only has impact if there is gravity, which is not existent in the void of space.

  • 12.27.2010 7:32 AM PDT
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a plasma torpedo is weaker than a MAC since the plasma torpedo uses multiple shots to take down a ship and the MAC uses one or two shots to take down Covenant carriers. the Covenant use excavation beams to destroy UNSC frigates which are the weapons that are stronger than the MAC since they can glass parts of planets in as little as 15 seconds

  • 12.27.2010 7:54 AM PDT

On hiding dead bodies:
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Inside another dead body. It's the last place they'll look
A corpse within a corpse.
CORPSEPTION.
Win.

Posted by: Godlike Hunter
And just so you guys know, a heavy metal wont have any impact on a ships ability to maneuver. Weight only has impact if there is gravity, which is not existent in the void of space.
It will increase its potential for inertia, and also mean that it will travel (or at least accelerate and turn) slower, due to the F=ma equation.

  • 12.27.2010 11:10 AM PDT

United States Military Academy Class of 2015


Posted by: MA5C 7RUTH

Posted by: Rawk to the Fist
[quote]Posted by: Bungie2
[quote]Posted by: Rawk to the Fist
[quote]Posted by: Bungie2

I have an idea on how FTL could be plausible in the 22nd century (seriously.) its been a long project, and the maths will take me 3-10 years to complete, but itll be worth it if correct.

~B2


Why the 22nd century and not sooner? If the math only takes 10 years we could do it before the end of the 21st.


The technology to develop and manipulate macroscopic black holes efficiently would take a LONG time to develop.


I would love to see your calculations you say you can do do get this going. #1. The brightest people in the world in the fields of physics have no idea what happens when something enters a black hole, so I don't mean to be a downer, but you have no clue either. #2. Go ahead and develop a black hole (just nowhere even lightyears close to me) because you would have no idea how to control it. But by all means please post on here the beginnings of the formulas you would use to do this. I am sure you would love another physicist double-checking your work...

*Turns off computer, drives to church, and prays that you never do open a black hole*

  • 12.27.2010 11:38 AM PDT

"Find The Bomb?!
Find The Bomb?!
I'm Looking For The Flag!
What The Heck Is Assualt!?"

This is one of those things I think we have to accept as ambiguous for the sake of plot and reality.

Although you can argue that it is too expensive a material, or perhaps the covenant plasma has a different make up making it more deadly and penetrating.

  • 12.27.2010 12:28 PM PDT
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Posted by: dangerman1337

Posted by: opogjijijp
Covenant Plasma isn't actually plasma. Who knows how it actually works.


Yeah, didn't Frankie say this somewhere? I'm sure you've got a link for this (you usally do :p):).


Yep, right here A nice 'get out of physics free' card.

  • 12.27.2010 5:30 PM PDT

We believe that the universe is unbounded: this is not the same as infinite: the 2-D surface of a sphere, wrapped around a 3rd dimension, has a finite size, but has no end. If you start off in a given direction on the surface of a sphere, you could return to your start point without having to turn around -- you simply go all the way around. But wouldn't that mean the universe has an escape velocity like the earth?

Lol, macroscopic black holes have been produced for nanoseconds within Colliders already. My design of a device designed to brutally attack and rip by manipulating macroscopic black holes into ripping a vortex to 11-D space is safer as Hawking radiation means that as soon as the ship enters, the black hole would implode on itself and disappear. Then again, lets go into the radiative theorems and such required.

The technology to develop macroscopic black-holes efficiently would take a LONG time to develop. The math that can determine the energy and precision required to manipulate black holes can be done within 20-30 years if fully funded.

~B2

  • 12.28.2010 1:59 AM PDT

Life's battles don't always go
To the stronger or faster man.
But sooner or later, the man who wins
Is the man who thinks he can.

I'm no scientist, but isn't the covenant plasma not plasma by scientific standards? So he could be right... (Or I'm wrong)

  • 12.28.2010 5:07 AM PDT

Life's battles don't always go
To the stronger or faster man.
But sooner or later, the man who wins
Is the man who thinks he can.


Posted by: Warriersolid47

Posted by: MA5C 7RUTH

Posted by: Rawk to the Fist
[quote]Posted by: Bungie2
[quote]Posted by: Rawk to the Fist
[quote]Posted by: Bungie2

I have an idea on how FTL could be plausible in the 22nd century (seriously.) its been a long project, and the maths will take me 3-10 years to complete, but itll be worth it if correct.

~B2


Why the 22nd century and not sooner? If the math only takes 10 years we could do it before the end of the 21st.


The technology to develop and manipulate macroscopic black holes efficiently would take a LONG time to develop.


I would love to see your calculations you say you can do do get this going. #1. The brightest people in the world in the fields of physics have no idea what happens when something enters a black hole, so I don't mean to be a downer, but you have no clue either. #2. Go ahead and develop a black hole (just nowhere even lightyears close to me) because you would have no idea how to control it. But by all means please post on here the beginnings of the formulas you would use to do this. I am sure you would love another physicist double-checking your work...

*Turns off computer, drives to church, and prays that you never do open a black hole*

I'm noticing a distinct lack of reply in the form of proof, well done.

  • 12.28.2010 5:21 AM PDT
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Posted by: Apollo Quinn
I'm noticing a distinct lack of reply in the form of proof, well done.

Well, would you yield the basis of your potentially Nobel Prize winning theorem to anonymous people on the internet? Just saying.

  • 12.28.2010 10:12 AM PDT

Yes, I'm a furry. And yes, I like men. So what?

Because Covenant Plasma burns hotter than pretty much anything known to man.


[Edited on 12.28.2010 2:24 PM PST]

  • 12.28.2010 2:21 PM PDT

The UNSC also left Reach (apparently the most vital military stronghold in the UNSC) protected with a space station, a small army of Warthogs and Scorpions, and a small team of Spartans when a huge-ass Covenant fleet bombarded the planet. (Game canon)

I'm not surprised they weren't smart enough to do what OP suggested.

Go figure.

  • 12.28.2010 5:24 PM PDT

Posted by: Bungie2
Lol, macroscopic black holes have been produced for nanoseconds within Colliders already. My design of a device designed to brutally attack and rip by manipulating macroscopic black holes into ripping a vortex to 11-D space is safer as Hawking radiation means that as soon as the ship enters, the black hole would implode on itself and disappear. Then again, lets go into the radiative theorems and such required.

The technology to develop macroscopic black-holes efficiently would take a LONG time to develop. The math that can determine the energy and precision required to manipulate black holes can be done within 20-30 years if fully funded.

~B2


no one has made macroscopic black holes. check your Latin. a black whole the size of a softball would slowly destroy the earth.

Also you assume a black whole could be used for transporting ships and persons unharmed. You think we will get around the fact that they tear matter apart on an atomic, possibly subatomic level, and compress it impossibly small.

  • 12.29.2010 12:27 PM PDT
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If you think nobody cares about you, miss some car payments.
Hard work never hurt anyone, but why take the chance.
The first sign of maturity is that the volume knob also turns to the left.

New Gamertag and profile: SHENANIGANS4780

Since it seems that the account didn't transfer, that's my new account everyone.


Posted by: All be it
Posted by: Bungie2
Lol, macroscopic black holes have been produced for nanoseconds within Colliders already. My design of a device designed to brutally attack and rip by manipulating macroscopic black holes into ripping a vortex to 11-D space is safer as Hawking radiation means that as soon as the ship enters, the black hole would implode on itself and disappear. Then again, lets go into the radiative theorems and such required.

The technology to develop macroscopic black-holes efficiently would take a LONG time to develop. The math that can determine the energy and precision required to manipulate black holes can be done within 20-30 years if fully funded.

~B2


no one has made macroscopic black holes. check your Latin. a black whole the size of a softball would slowly destroy the earth.

Also you assume a black whole could be used for transporting ships and persons unharmed. You think we will get around the fact that they tear matter apart on an atomic, possibly subatomic level, and compress it impossibly small.

Posted by: All be it
Posted by: Bungie2
Lol, macroscopic black holes have been produced for nanoseconds within Colliders already. My design of a device designed to brutally attack and rip by manipulating macroscopic black holes into ripping a vortex to 11-D space is safer as Hawking radiation means that as soon as the ship enters, the black hole would implode on itself and disappear. Then again, lets go into the radiative theorems and such required.

The technology to develop macroscopic black-holes efficiently would take a LONG time to develop. The math that can determine the energy and precision required to manipulate black holes can be done within 20-30 years if fully funded.

~B2


no one has made macroscopic black holes. check your Latin. a black whole the size of a softball would slowly destroy the earth.

Also you assume a black whole could be used for transporting ships and persons unharmed. You think we will get around the fact that they tear matter apart on an atomic, possibly subatomic level, and compress it impossibly small.



Microscopic black holes were already made in the Hadron Collider, or if they haven't done it yet then they will. And if you read his posts correctly then you'd know that Hawking Radiation would dissipate it very, very quickly

  • 12.29.2010 7:00 PM PDT

We believe that the universe is unbounded: this is not the same as infinite: the 2-D surface of a sphere, wrapped around a 3rd dimension, has a finite size, but has no end. If you start off in a given direction on the surface of a sphere, you could return to your start point without having to turn around -- you simply go all the way around. But wouldn't that mean the universe has an escape velocity like the earth?

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Posted by: All be it
Posted by: Bungie2
Lol, macroscopic black holes have been produced for nanoseconds within Colliders already. My design of a device designed to brutally attack and rip by manipulating macroscopic black holes into ripping a vortex to 11-D space is safer as Hawking radiation means that as soon as the ship enters, the black hole would implode on itself and disappear. Then again, lets go into the radiative theorems and such required.

The technology to develop macroscopic black-holes efficiently would take a LONG time to develop. The math that can determine the energy and precision required to manipulate black holes can be done within 20-30 years if fully funded.

~B2


no one has made macroscopic black holes. check your Latin. a black whole the size of a softball would slowly destroy the earth.

Also you assume a black whole could be used for transporting ships and persons unharmed. You think we will get around the fact that they tear matter apart on an atomic, possibly subatomic level, and compress it impossibly small.

Posted by: All be it
Posted by: Bungie2
Lol, macroscopic black holes have been produced for nanoseconds within Colliders already. My design of a device designed to brutally attack and rip by manipulating macroscopic black holes into ripping a vortex to 11-D space is safer as Hawking radiation means that as soon as the ship enters, the black hole would implode on itself and disappear. Then again, lets go into the radiative theorems and such required.

The technology to develop macroscopic black-holes efficiently would take a LONG time to develop. The math that can determine the energy and precision required to manipulate black holes can be done within 20-30 years if fully funded.

~B2


no one has made macroscopic black holes. check your Latin. a black whole the size of a softball would slowly destroy the earth.

Also you assume a black whole could be used for transporting ships and persons unharmed. You think we will get around the fact that they tear matter apart on an atomic, possibly subatomic level, and compress it impossibly small.



Microscopic black holes were already made in the Hadron Collider, or if they haven't done it yet then they will. And if you read his posts correctly then you'd know that Hawking Radiation would dissipate it very, very quickly


Thank you for replying for me. It seems art least someone can read my answer correctly after all :P.Also, the threshold for a Black-hole to engulf the earth would have to be much larger for Hawking radiation to have minimal enough effects to attack the planet. Hawking radiation dissipates the Black hole immediately, and the smaller the hole beyond the threshold, the larger the radiation until boom, it collapses and explodes. Did I mention the radiation makes the Black Hole glow, especially at that small size? As an example, a black hole the size of Mt Everest would be bright as a color on the visible spectrum. So losing the hole would not be an issue, not that the black hole should be the size of a mountain, because thats far too large to be feasible in my equations.

~B2.

  • 12.29.2010 8:48 PM PDT

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