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Subject: where did the covenenant come from?

i mean, about 10 alien races all collaborating...
where did they come from origionally?
if not the others, where did the leaders come from?
do we have a story about how they joined together?

  • 12.26.2010 11:15 AM PDT

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  • 12.26.2010 11:22 AM PDT

I am Field Master Avu Med 'Telcam, Servant of the Abiding Truth, and I have many brothers.

A god who creates tools is still a god. It is not for us to impose qualifications upon the divine or presume to guess its intentions.

Oh boy. I'll give the short version.

Long long ago, in the ancient times on the worlds of the Sangheili and Prophets, both races discovered their worlds littered with Forerunner artifacts. Both worshiped them. The Prophets religion however allowed them to use these artifacts. The elite's religion was heresy to tamper with the forerunner's devices. The Prophets used the forerunner dreadnought on their homeworld (which was actually a star) to escape before it went supernova. When the dreadnought lifted off, it literally took about 1/3 of the star off with it. The Prophets built around it and called it "High Charity".

The prophets then found Sanghelios. When they realized their beliefs on the sacred objects differed, they had a war. The prophets eventually converted the elites to their religion, and allowed them to be the prophet's protectors while they deciphered the forerunner relics to ultimately achieve the great journey. These two races worked together to assimilate the other races. Time passes, you have The Covenant.


inb4 Halopedia links.

  • 12.26.2010 11:23 AM PDT
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Posted by: matman25402
The Prophets used the forerunner dreadnought on their homeworld (which was actually a star) to escape before it went supernova. When the dreadnought lifted off, it literally took about 1/3 of the star off with it.

A star?

They lived on a terrestrial world which was destroyed when their star went supernova. The group (The Reformists) that took the dreadnought did so to escape the oppression of the Stoics. 1000 or so years later their star goes boom and their homeworld is vaporised.

(Which begs the question of why they did not evacuate. If the Sun suddenly started dying we would know instantly. Perhaps that is the reason for the Reformist existence. Their Star dying, they may have saw the dreadnought as their only escape, but the Stoics choosing death over changing their beliefs. Were they not at least Space-Faring as a race at that time though?)

  • 12.26.2010 11:52 AM PDT

I am Field Master Avu Med 'Telcam, Servant of the Abiding Truth, and I have many brothers.

A god who creates tools is still a god. It is not for us to impose qualifications upon the divine or presume to guess its intentions.

Which is why I called this the short version.

  • 12.26.2010 11:56 AM PDT
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Short versions do not necessitate error.

  • 12.26.2010 12:01 PM PDT

I am Field Master Avu Med 'Telcam, Servant of the Abiding Truth, and I have many brothers.

A god who creates tools is still a god. It is not for us to impose qualifications upon the divine or presume to guess its intentions.

It's easier to call it a star instead of explaining that in their system there was a nearby star that would eliminate the planet and the prophets had a civil war debating whether to use the forerunner dreadnought to escape, just like the rest of their technology.

So yes. This short version decides to allow an error instead of making it a longer post.

  • 12.26.2010 12:04 PM PDT
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Posted by: matman25402
So yes. This short version decides to allow an error instead of making it a longer post.

So how does that version describe what happened if it is wrong? The OP would have thought that the San-Shyuum actually evolved on an object with no physical surface that boiled at thousands of degrees Celsius. It is intuitively obvious that when one says "Homeworld", one means something like Earth rather than this.

  • 12.26.2010 12:22 PM PDT

space

  • 12.26.2010 12:23 PM PDT

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Posted by: matman25402
The Prophets used the forerunner dreadnought on their homeworld (which was actually a star) to escape before it went supernova. When the dreadnought lifted off, it literally took about 1/3 of the star off with it.

A star?

They lived on a terrestrial world which was destroyed when their star went supernova. The group (The Reformists) that took the dreadnought did so to escape the oppression of the Stoics. 1000 or so years later their star goes boom and their homeworld is vaporised.

(Which begs the question of why they did not evacuate. If the Sun suddenly started dying we would know instantly. Perhaps that is the reason for the Reformist existence. Their Star dying, they may have saw the dreadnought as their only escape, but the Stoics choosing death over changing their beliefs. Were they not at least Space-Faring as a race at that time though?)

There's really no evidence that the Stoics as your calling them (have they officially been called that somewhere?) didn't escape their homeworld before it went supernova. They must have been a fairly advanced race considering their understanding of the Forerunner technology on their planet.

  • 12.26.2010 12:31 PM PDT
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Posted by: Spartan1065
There's really no evidence that the Stoics as your calling them (have they officially been called that somewhere?) didn't escape their homeworld before it went supernova. They must have been a fairly advanced race considering their understanding of the Forerunner technology on their planet.

They were named in the Halo Encyclopaedia. Pg 119. ;)

  • 12.26.2010 12:52 PM PDT

Posted by: xXI LEGIT IXx
i mean, about 10 alien races all collaborating...
where did they come from origionally?
if not the others, where did the leaders come from?
do we have a story about how they joined together?


The San 'Shyuum (Prophets) and The Sangheili (Elites) discovered Forerunner artifacts. Then the two races met each other, and since they had very different views on how these artifacts should be treated, a war sparked. The Elites were physically superior, but since the Prophets inherited the powerful Dreadnought, it was a tie situation. So the war ended and they wrote a declaration of some stuff (including how to splice their views on the Forerunners into a religion as a whole) and there you have The Covenant. After that, they sailed into space to recruit other species to their religion. Some of these species were forced (Grunts), some were hired (Jackals), and some required some blood spelt by the Elites themselves (The Taming of the Hunters).

So basically they're just a bunch of aleins coming from a bunch of different planets.

[Edited on 12.26.2010 1:46 PM PST]

  • 12.26.2010 1:43 PM PDT

you could write an encycolpedia just on the formation of the contemporary Covenant.

so: to long; will not explain.

  • 12.26.2010 5:11 PM PDT

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  • 12.26.2010 6:15 PM PDT

Nothing to see here, move along.


Posted by: matman25402
It's easier to call it a star instead of explaining that in their system there was a nearby star that would eliminate the planet and the prophets had a civil war debating whether to use the forerunner dreadnought to escape, just like the rest of their technology.

So yes. This short version decides to allow an error instead of making it a longer post.

Calling it a star just adds confusion.

I was reading that whilst trying to imagine the prophets walking on a sphere of boiling plasma.

It wouldn't of taken that much effort to write "Their local star went supernova."

  • 12.26.2010 6:26 PM PDT

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  • 12.26.2010 6:45 PM PDT


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Posted by: matman25402
It's easier to call it a star instead of explaining that in their system there was a nearby star that would eliminate the planet and the prophets had a civil war debating whether to use the forerunner dreadnought to escape, just like the rest of their technology.

So yes. This short version decides to allow an error instead of making it a longer post.

Calling it a star just adds confusion.

I was reading that whilst trying to imagine the prophets walking on a sphere of boiling plasma.

It wouldn't of taken that much effort to write "Their local star went supernova."


No that's 32 extra characters! They must not be wasted, lest we post a wall of text!

OT: Basically, the Prophets and Elites joined after forming religion based around worshiping the Forerunner. They then go on a conquest of every species that they come across, annexing them into the Covenant. the only reason humans weren't annexed is because we had SPARTANS that were able to withstand the might of the Covenant; the Prophets also discovered something that related to the Forerunner-Human link and ordered them eradicated because the information would have totally nullified the entire point of their religion.

(tl;dr: the prophets and elites form a religion based on forerunner worship, then conquer every species they come across. the prophets discover that humans have a link to forerunner, so they try to wipe them out because it would make everything pointless)

[Edited on 12.26.2010 6:48 PM PST]

  • 12.26.2010 6:45 PM PDT

The only planet I know is Sanghelios, of the elites

  • 12.26.2010 9:04 PM PDT

We believe that the universe is unbounded: this is not the same as infinite: the 2-D surface of a sphere, wrapped around a 3rd dimension, has a finite size, but has no end. If you start off in a given direction on the surface of a sphere, you could return to your start point without having to turn around -- you simply go all the way around. But wouldn't that mean the universe has an escape velocity like the earth?

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The only planet I know is Sanghelios, of the elites


Let me help you.

Te, The Hunter/M'galekgolo Homeworld, orbiting Svir, its primary star. It has 2 moons, Rantu, and Uhtua.

Doisac, The Brutes/Jiralhanae Hostile Homeworld. Its promary star is Oth Sonin III, its Satellites are Warial, Solrapt, and Teash.

Eayn (Kig-yar/Jackal/Skirmisher Homeworld), a moon to a larger gas giant called Chu'ot, known IRL as HD 69830d, its star is known in Halo as Y'Deio.

Grunts/Unggoy are from Balaho, a methane atomsphere based planet. Its star is Tala, and its satellites are Buwan and Padpad.

Yanme'e are from Palamok, a surfaced planet with gravity at 2G. Its Primary star is Napret III, and its 4 moons consist of Naxook, Oquiu, Ka'amoti and Kami. Palamok is inhospitable to human presence.

Huragok/Engineers on the other hand are Forerunner built, artificial life designed to develop and repair Forerunner Artifacts.

~B2

[Edited on 12.26.2010 9:31 PM PST]

  • 12.26.2010 9:25 PM PDT