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Subject: These are like a evil dictatorship

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Posted by: DARKHELMET
Moderator pwns all. You put down the moderator and his government (bungie and this forum) and you get executed (blacklisted).
Through the years ive been a member here this site has changed dramaticaly. A few years ago everyone was cool and part of a halo community with all the chapters that made this site. now that the chapters are less significant and less active people no longer no each other. It has become a forum crazy place where everyone flames and gets executed. All though I have stayed with the halo game series since membership I really am not active here anymore because i dont have much interest in this site. It used to be a place to talk to friends in chapters and people u have in common. now its just a discussion forum mainly 50 chapters was fun


Think about it logically. When you were first around it was a nice, close community. Emphasis on small. As more people came, the probability of people coming here and flaming etc increased. Now, with this apparent increase, moderators and staff have had to get tougher or this problem will live on and you'll only complain more.

moderators are still cool, just be cool to them. As for the chapters, well yes it is a shame and many people including myself are very sad about this and try to do something about it. Sad fact is, as time goes by, new and different people come. People who aren't very interested in the 7th Column.

  • 11.28.2005 4:03 AM PDT

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Posted by: DARKHELMET
Moderator pwns all. You put down the moderator and his government (bungie and this forum) and you get executed (blacklisted).
Through the years ive been a member here this site has changed dramaticaly. A few years ago everyone was cool and part of a halo community with all the chapters that made this site. now that the chapters are less significant and less active people no longer no each other. It has become a forum crazy place where everyone flames and gets executed. All though I have stayed with the halo game series since membership I really am not active here anymore because i dont have much interest in this site. It used to be a place to talk to friends in chapters and people u have in common. now its just a discussion forum mainly 50 chapters was fun


A few decent points have been made, but bear in mind that the more positive your own input is, the more positive the community will eventually be. Patience is a virtue that many members lack most of the time, it is up to the more mature and patient members to extend the benefit of their wisdom. This helps everyone grow.

Sometimes people are beyond help, and it's these you have to learn to ignore.

I don't think your statement is fair about the moderators, at least, not in my experience. If I blacklisted everyone who cursed me out or disagreed with me, my mouse would have a worn spot on it. That's not what we're here for. Unfortunately, it can seem that way, especially when the detractor is breaking a plethora of other rules in order to voice their distaste.

True example, when I first arrived at Bungie.net I don't remember if you were having a bad day or not, but you berated me to no end. While I was a "noob", and may have done something to irritate you (although for the life of me I can't remember what - all I remember is the flames which followed), it was the method you used to voice your distaste that was frowned upon, not that you had it.

True Example, when I first heard of the H2S site, I went over there and poked a hole or three in their arguments. I was wrong and missed the point, it was their opinion, and they did exactly what they were supposed to do, take the arguments elsewhere. I still don't agree with them, but I leave them alone now, and I sincerely hope that the people with less good intentions leave them alone altogether. I told you this to give an example of my own learning process. Being irritating just for the sake of being "right" or just because you don't agree with someone is probably not the best way to go about things.

That doesn't mean don't argue! Problems can't be solved without argument, and opinions can't be explored either. But keeping it at a rational level is key to understanding each other, and respecting other opinions, even if they don't match your own.


You'll notice that there are many threads everywhere that complain about aspects of Bungie's decisions with the game throughout the forum. These are not deleted, or locked because they present their case for discussion in a rational manner, not with kerosene and a blowtorch.

It may even surprise people to know that I've reprimanded more people who supported Bungie than were opposed to Bungie. It's nothing to do with the message that I make my decisions. It's with the manner the message is given.


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By the way, if you are Dark Helmet (Original) thank you ever so much for the Turret Launching idea.

  • 11.28.2005 7:39 AM PDT

Posted by: GameJunkieJim
By the way, if you are Dark Helmet (Original) thank you ever so much for the Turret Launching idea.



I doubt it. The Dark Helmet I remember was mature, nice guy.

  • 11.28.2005 9:32 AM PDT

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Posted by: Banshee Barron
Posted by: GameJunkieJim
By the way, if you are Dark Helmet (Original) thank you ever so much for the Turret Launching idea.



I doubt it. The Dark Helmet I remember was mature, nice guy.


Same. I have trouble believing this is the Dark Helmet I met at Gearbox's office in Texas. I'm pretty sure the Dark Helmet I know wouldn't call the forums an "evil dictatorship" because he's expected to not post willy-nilly.

[Edited on 11/28/2005]

  • 11.28.2005 10:53 AM PDT

Ach! Was ist los?

He claims to be in Austin, Halo and Halo 2 are the only Bungie games he's played, and his average XBL ranking is 23.

Does that sound like the real Dark Helmet?

  • 11.28.2005 11:17 AM PDT
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It's not like dark helmet is an original name, have none of you seen Spaceballs?!

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Spaceballs was a good movie.

  • 11.28.2005 11:40 AM PDT

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I didn't bother reading the whole post but just to let you know that is not Dark Helmet.

  • 11.28.2005 1:20 PM PDT

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  • 11.28.2005 1:31 PM PDT

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Posted by: doctor woot
how the hell did you manage to join the site before the internet existed
did you submit your application by mail

long story short to answer some q's
No im not the "real" DH .Through the past 3odd years ive been asked that same annoying question more times than any of you guys can imagine, so ive grown used to just letting them believe what they want. If you go to HBO and search the forums, the real DH and I have shared some words in the past due to confusion like this.
Also...
When I stumbled across this site back before whenever my join date says, I truely did like this site. I liked the ability that I had to find people in my area to talk to and find out who was holding a LAN and were it was being held. I learned that a man named Tod Liverseed was creating a type of internet tunnel system that would alow a single person to join into a custom game of Halo: CE with another person clear across the country. I became deeply involved with bungie.net and in no time was members to nearly 50 chapters and a large contributer to bigger forums like that of Chapter Founders.
After time I never lost the love for the masterpiece bungie created but its official site and the community it carried began some unfavorable changes.
The changes grew and soon enough the most active and most populated chapters faded away. They faded away as did my appreciation for b.net.

This site used to be cool and unique and it's lost that edge.

Now all i ever hear about bungie is thier lack to satify and people being blacklisted.
I believe that this site has great potential, but is lost in all the clutter of the forums.

  • 11.29.2005 7:24 PM PDT

If the current version of Bungie.net is so inferior, why did you come back? You could at least suggest remedies rather than whining like some senior citizen about how time moves on and the present quickly becomes the past.

I've only been here for a little over a year, but during my experiences I have been able to participate in great groups, help maintain and lead a group, organize weekly online gaming sessions with other bungie.net members, enjoy interesting forum discussions, meet intelligent Bungie fans from all over the globe, and learn a great deal about Bungie and the many games they have made. The community experience you speak of is still alive. All you need to do is search it out.

Of course, certain aspects of the forums could use some help. I won't begin to claim that the current Bungie.net is perfect. The Undergroud specifically is awash with asinine, repeat, and off topic posts. The Bungie.net community is many times larger than it was in the past and the arrival of more people brings with it more idiots. However, the forum mods do their best to keep everything under control and, considering the small number of mods and astronomical number of members, do a pretty good job.

If all you can do is whine about the old days, you might as well retire now.

  • 11.29.2005 10:44 PM PDT
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Increase in activity = Increase in stupidity.
Increase in stupidity = Increase in Moderators (to counter said stupidity)
Increase in Moderators = Increase in stupidity (to annoy said moderators)
Increase in stupidity = Increase in blacklistings.

I do realise that goes in a loop, but I'm too tired and pissed off to bother changing it.

-TGP-

  • 11.29.2005 10:59 PM PDT
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Posted by: Great_Pretender
Increase in activity = Increase in stupidity.
Increase in stupidity = Increase in Moderators (to counter said stupidity)
Increase in Moderators = Increase in stupidity (to annoy said moderators)
Increase in stupidity = Increase in blacklistings.

I do realise that goes in a loop, but I'm too tired and pissed off to bother changing it.

-TGP-


Change it? Why? It's true. When there is an increase in stupidity, there is an increase in moderators, which creates more stupidity, which means pissed off moderators, which means increased stupidity, which means even more pissed off moderators, and the cycle goes on.

  • 11.29.2005 11:26 PM PDT
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That's perfect... GP in my first post I was looking for somthing to put it into some sort of diagram or graph. I think you have it. Basicly the stupid people are being stupid so the mods get pissed off and yell at the stupid people. The stupid people complain about mods having "Too Much Power" or "Being unfair". If I were a moderator, the first thing that would come out of my mouth if an idiot complained is... Bite Me. Complain bout that and your loop begins. Don't change it, it is perfect.

  • 11.29.2005 11:58 PM PDT

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