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Subject: Halo 3: It's Current State
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Halo 3 in it's current state, is simply put - a broken, disadvantaged game. Whether you like it or not, people still play it, and Bungie, you still need to tend to it's needs and update it once in a while.

What's wrong:

1. Foreigners
I have been playing Halo 3 for the past week (mostly doubles), and face foreigners the majority of the time. Literally 6 to 9 out of 10 games I will play foreigners. This wouldn't be so bad if foreigners didn't get host over us every single game. I have a pretty good internet speed, so I should at least get host every once in a while. I am not exaggerating when I say that foreigners pull host over Americans at least 95% of the time. I don't know if they are bridging or what the case may be, but it happens and it is absurdly unfair.

2. Search Preferences
Combined with the above, search preferences don't work. They just don't. Sure, maybe they sometimes work as expected, but they are worthless. If you search "My Language" in order to avoid foreigners, you can and will still match UK, Australia, Puerto Rico, and a few other countries. If you search good connection, it basically does nothing because you will still match foreigners and it will be a bad connection. Sure, it's good for the foreigners because they are host. You might as well be spawning Americans with half shields and a 2-shot-burst Battle Rifle. Where's the "My Region", "My Area", or "My Country" preference? (Title update, anyone?)

3. Cheating (See also #1 - foreigners)
Surprisingly enough, people still feel the need to cheat in a 3 year old game; and it's more prevalent than ever. I guess the reasons for cheating haven't changed, but there are more cheaters, or maybe there's just less legit players. Regardless, there is a large amount of cheating, specifically in the high ranks (40-50). If bridging foreigners isn't enough for you, there is still a whole lot of host booting and even more deranking/boosting.

4. Ranked settings.
There are so many things wrong with the ranked settings and gametypes that it's not even funny. This, combined with all 3 of the points above, just leaves this game immensely unplayable. In ranked gametypes, specifically at high ranks, it requires a BR starting weapon in order for it to be even remotely fair. Since the majority of games (at least the doubles games I play) are against foreigners (who always get host), they can easily keep an AR gametype such as Team Slayer or any objective and just pick up BRs and dominate with their host. Not only that, but even with a good host, objectives are still unfair and random. There are not enough players in a doubles game for oddball, you can simply just run circles around the map and not have any issues since there are only 2 people to worry about. KoTH is the epitome of luck. You kill the team in the hill, they will just spawn next to the new one. One flag is nearly always ending up in a tie, which works out perfectly for boosters since they can just get the tie and rank up since the booster is usually in the 20s, meaning that their team has the lower ranks and gets the win, while the legit team gets the loss since they are both in the 40s. The only thing that would make Objective in Team Doubles even close to tolerable would be to make all objective BR starts. Even then it would probably still suck. 2 flag is the only decent thing, but again it's ARs so if you die once, the other team automatically gets a cap no matter what.

Just because you released a new game doesn't mean you can neglect the old one. People still play it, and it needs to be cared for and updated. I could go on for ages and probably write a book over the flaws of Halo 3 in it's current state, but you get the gist of it. I really wish Bungie employees were skilled enough to be level 45+ so that they could play a few games and see what we, legit skilled Americans, are dealing with.

Finding a legit game, with a good host, with BR starts in high ranked Team Doubles is nearly impossible. I haven't played high ranked slayer recently, so I wouldn't know about that.

[Edited on 01.06.2011 11:57 PM PST]

  • 01.06.2011 11:52 PM PDT

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No-one bridges anymore, you all just have bad host records.

  • 01.06.2011 11:56 PM PDT
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Posted by: Commview
No-one bridges anymore, you all just have bad host records.


I find that hard to believe. There is no way that foreigners should get host 99% of the time without there being cheating. Foreigners have always bridged and I guarantee they still do.

I play with people who have beastly internet and they still don't pull host over foreigners. I've PMd foreigners with bad hosts and asked what their internet speed is and I get answers like 5Mb/s and stuff like that, while I have some friends with 20+Mb/s who never pull host over foreigners.

Here's my immature, angry side speaking: Halo 3 is an American game, it was made in America, by Americans, specifically for Americans. Foreigners are the second market for this game. Americans should not have to deal with this bull-blam!-. Americans should get host over foreigners more so than vice versa. It's ridiculous. If foreigners want to play good connection games than they should get their -blam!- country to make a video game for them.

CoD has a locale search preference.. and holy -blam!- it works. Too bad I don't want to play CoD. I want to play a fair game of Halo 3. That rarely happens.

[Edited on 01.07.2011 12:08 AM PST]

  • 01.06.2011 11:59 PM PDT
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hes right no one bridges anymore, im friends with most of the aussies that used to do it, and they havent done so in a long time

  • 01.07.2011 12:07 AM PDT

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Posted by: One Track Mind
Here's my immature, angry side speaking: Halo 3 is an American game, it was made in America, by Americans, specifically for Americans. Foreigners are the second market for this game. Americans should not have to deal with this bull-blam!-. Americans should get host over foreigners more so than vice versa. It's ridiculous. If foreigners want to play good connection games than they should get their -blam!- country to make a video game for them.


Funny. My cover says "Made in Singapore."

Speed means nothing for host, packet loss does.

  • 01.07.2011 12:10 AM PDT
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Posted by: Commview
Posted by: One Track Mind
Here's my immature, angry side speaking: Halo 3 is an American game, it was made in America, by Americans, specifically for Americans. Foreigners are the second market for this game. Americans should not have to deal with this bull-blam!-. Americans should get host over foreigners more so than vice versa. It's ridiculous. If foreigners want to play good connection games than they should get their -blam!- country to make a video game for them.


Funny. My cover says "Made in Singapore."

Speed means nothing for host, packet loss does.


Developed. You know exactly what I mean; let's not argue semantics.

  • 01.07.2011 12:11 AM PDT

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Posted by: One Track Mind
Here's my immature, angry side speaking: Halo 3 is an American game, it was made in America, by Americans, specifically for Americans. Foreigners are the second market for this game. Americans should not have to deal with this bull-blam!-. Americans should get host over foreigners more so than vice versa. It's ridiculous. If foreigners want to play good connection games than they should get their -blam!- country to make a video game for them.


LOL moron alert

  • 01.07.2011 12:12 AM PDT

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Posted by: Commview
Speed means nothing for host, packet loss does.

This still applies.

If your friends aren't getting host and have fast connections, chances are they have terrible packet loss.

I'm Australian, trust me when I say that there are barely any bridgers left in H3.

[Edited on 01.07.2011 12:13 AM PST]

  • 01.07.2011 12:13 AM PDT

And they need to update the bungie favs at least 2 more times.

  • 01.07.2011 12:14 AM PDT
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There are barely any bridgers left. It took long enough to get games bridging when everyone still played, now it would be close to impossible.

lthough, I agree on the host situation. I pulled host all last week, and only once saw someone drop into yellow. Then this week, I haven't pulled host since, yet I constantly match hosts that hold multiple people red bar and rest in yellow. The host system is extremely confusing but oh well.

Cheating seems to be at an all time high. I was searching doubles earlier, got standbyed the first game. We were up 18-10, then suddenly went black screen for 5 minutes, then came out with the score being 18-22. My teammate then lagged out, and within seconds I got disconnected as well. The next game we were playing flag, and we were up 2-0 when my teammate lost got hit offline. They admitted to booting in the post game.

  • 01.07.2011 1:12 AM PDT

Halo is dead. Linked tag is permanently banned from XBL

I haven't been stand-by'd in years

  • 01.07.2011 3:01 AM PDT

Absent of flooding.

I like how you say "foreigners always bridge" as if no Americans do. I could say the exact same thing and it would apply to Americans. I think you forget you're foreigners to us aswell.

  • 01.07.2011 6:03 AM PDT

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  • 01.07.2011 6:12 AM PDT

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Posted by: Davey
I like how you say "foreigners always bridge" as if no Americans do. I could say the exact same thing and it would apply to Americans. I think you forget you're foreigners to us aswell.


So true. I think more Americans host boot than English people anyway... but I do play GMT Midnight

  • 01.07.2011 7:05 AM PDT

All the nonsense that moved me from ranked to social years ago happened through stateside players-cheating,host booting and trash talking.
So being in the U.K, "foreigners" ruined my gaming too.

  • 01.07.2011 9:59 AM PDT

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Halo 3 in it's current state, is simply put - a broken, disadvantaged game. Whether you like it or not, people still play it, and Bungie, you still need to tend to it's needs and update it once in a while.

What's wrong:

1. Foreigners
I have been playing Halo 3 for the past week (mostly doubles), and face foreigners the majority of the time. Literally 6 to 9 out of 10 games I will play foreigners. This wouldn't be so bad if foreigners didn't get host over us every single game. I have a pretty good internet speed, so I should at least get host every once in a while. I am not exaggerating when I say that foreigners pull host over Americans at least 95% of the time. I don't know if they are bridging or what the case may be, but it happens and it is absurdly unfair.

2. Search Preferences
Combined with the above, search preferences don't work. They just don't. Sure, maybe they sometimes work as expected, but they are worthless. If you search "My Language" in order to avoid foreigners, you can and will still match UK, Australia, Puerto Rico, and a few other countries. If you search good connection, it basically does nothing because you will still match foreigners and it will be a bad connection. Sure, it's good for the foreigners because they are host. You might as well be spawning Americans with half shields and a 2-shot-burst Battle Rifle. Where's the "My Region", "My Area", or "My Country" preference? (Title update, anyone?)

3. Cheating (See also #1 - foreigners)
Surprisingly enough, people still feel the need to cheat in a 3 year old game; and it's more prevalent than ever. I guess the reasons for cheating haven't changed, but there are more cheaters, or maybe there's just less legit players. Regardless, there is a large amount of cheating, specifically in the high ranks (40-50). If bridging foreigners isn't enough for you, there is still a whole lot of host booting and even more deranking/boosting.

4. Ranked settings.
There are so many things wrong with the ranked settings and gametypes that it's not even funny. This, combined with all 3 of the points above, just leaves this game immensely unplayable. In ranked gametypes, specifically at high ranks, it requires a BR starting weapon in order for it to be even remotely fair. Since the majority of games (at least the doubles games I play) are against foreigners (who always get host), they can easily keep an AR gametype such as Team Slayer or any objective and just pick up BRs and dominate with their host. Not only that, but even with a good host, objectives are still unfair and random. There are not enough players in a doubles game for oddball, you can simply just run circles around the map and not have any issues since there are only 2 people to worry about. KoTH is the epitome of luck. You kill the team in the hill, they will just spawn next to the new one. One flag is nearly always ending up in a tie, which works out perfectly for boosters since they can just get the tie and rank up since the booster is usually in the 20s, meaning that their team has the lower ranks and gets the win, while the legit team gets the loss since they are both in the 40s. The only thing that would make Objective in Team Doubles even close to tolerable would be to make all objective BR starts. Even then it would probably still suck. 2 flag is the only decent thing, but again it's ARs so if you die once, the other team automatically gets a cap no matter what.

Just because you released a new game doesn't mean you can neglect the old one. People still play it, and it needs to be cared for and updated. I could go on for ages and probably write a book over the flaws of Halo 3 in it's current state, but you get the gist of it. I really wish Bungie employees were skilled enough to be level 45+ so that they could play a few games and see what we, legit skilled Americans, are dealing with.


HA HA HA yes it does plus the population for halo 3 is not enough to encouridge bungie to update it, there focused on reach witch is actuly better

  • 01.07.2011 11:15 AM PDT
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Posted by: william ian
HA HA HA yes it does plus the population for halo 3 is not enough to encouridge bungie to update it, there focused on reach witch is actuly better
Reach's population is only 4x bigger than Halo 3's.

That is terrible considering Reach is still new, and Halo 3 has been out for 3 years.

  • 01.07.2011 11:23 AM PDT

Posted by: Plasma Pistols
XDeltaxHunterX he is a beast slayer player, KD higher than the ozone layer, enemies won't have a prayer even though his name can't be g.ayer!

Wah.

  • 01.07.2011 11:50 AM PDT
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Posted by: william ian
HA HA HA yes it does plus the population for halo 3 is not enough to encouridge bungie to update it, there focused on reach witch is actuly better
Reach's population is only 4x bigger than Halo 3's.

That is terrible considering Reach is still new, and Halo 3 has been out for 3 years.


I'm pretty sure that Ranked TS and TD have more people playing it than Arena Slayer and Arena Doubles. If not, it's close.

  • 01.07.2011 12:33 PM PDT

play Reach its good

  • 01.07.2011 1:11 PM PDT

Posted by: Plasma Pistols
XDeltaxHunterX he is a beast slayer player, KD higher than the ozone layer, enemies won't have a prayer even though his name can't be g.ayer!

Posted by: BurnoutKilla19
play Reach its good


Proper grammar or GTFO!

  • 01.07.2011 1:21 PM PDT

how about this? Reach all the way! =)
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Posted by: BurnoutKilla19
play Reach its good


Proper grammar or GTFO!

  • 01.07.2011 1:41 PM PDT

HAHAHAHAHA!
Lol omg One track mind you are probobly the biggest idiot and typical american I've seen in a long time. Seriously? not only do americans ALWAYS get host, I find they are generally the worst at the game cuz theyre soo used to host that as soon as slight lag comes to play, they get raped.

Also your saying because its made in america, americans should get priority? Dude I dunno if your like... retarded, or brainwashed, or somewhere inbetween, but not only is that statement downright stupid, I guarentee you get green bar for the majority of games you play.

As a american you really cant complain about lag, you have no idea what real lag is and you have no idea on how you take green bar for granted.

  • 01.07.2011 4:41 PM PDT
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Posted by: Jsharp118
HAHAHAHAHA!
Lol omg One track mind you are probobly the biggest idiot and typical american I've seen in a long time. Seriously? not only do americans ALWAYS get host, I find they are generally the worst at the game cuz theyre soo used to host that as soon as slight lag comes to play, they get raped.

Also your saying because its made in america, americans should get priority? Dude I dunno if your like... retarded, or brainwashed, or somewhere inbetween, but not only is that statement downright stupid, I guarentee you get green bar for the majority of games you play.

As a american you really cant complain about lag, you have no idea what real lag is and you have no idea on how you take green bar for granted.


Quite the contrary. If you play High ranked doubles, it's mostly foreigners. Maybe a year or two ago Americans got host more often, only because thats' when the game was in it's prime.

Currently, foreigners get host over Americans the majority of the time. That's not an exaggeration, that's a fact. It is completely and utterly unfair.

  • 01.07.2011 4:51 PM PDT

I'm out.

I have been playing Halo 3 for the past week (mostly doubles), and face foreigners the majority of the time. Literally 6 to 9 out of 10 games I will play foreigners. This wouldn't be so bad if foreigners didn't get host over us every single game. I have a pretty good internet speed, so I should at least get host every once in a while. I am not exaggerating when I say that foreigners pull host over Americans at least 95% of the time. I don't know if they are bridging or what the case may be, but it happens and it is absurdly unfair.

False. Host is almost always in the US and it always has been.

  • 01.07.2011 4:54 PM PDT

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