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Subject: Is the server not updating the other servers?
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It looks like marinealver and antiherosk8er both posted in the feedback thread but I can't read (or see) either post. Is the server they are connecting to not updating the server I am reading? Does this happen in other threads? The last post I see is from God's Prophet at 2:26am today. What do you see?

  • 11.29.2005 5:42 PM PDT
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I'm not sure what causes this. But, one solution is to reply with a post saying "tsp" or To-See-Post. That usually brings them up.

[Edited on 11/29/2005]

  • 11.29.2005 6:08 PM PDT
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Posted by: Kilroy
I'm not sure what causes this. But, one solution is to reply with a post saying "tsp" or To-See-Post. That usually brings them up.

I don't really like that. I just think that there isn't anything to see that's important enough to bump the thread back up. Besides, you don't know what they're saying, so you don't know if it is important enough or not.

Usually the bug will correct itself and you'll be able to see the posts. I'd say just be patient.

  • 11.29.2005 6:28 PM PDT
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Posted by: Kilroy
I'm not sure what causes this. But, one solution is to reply with a post saying "tsp" or To-See-Post. That usually brings them up.

I don't really like that. I just think that there isn't anything to see that's important enough to bump the thread back up. Besides, you don't know what they're saying, so you don't know if it is important enough or not.

Usually the bug will correct itself and you'll be able to see the posts. I'd say just be patient.


Well, I don't do it often. Just when I'm in a really good or important convo, and I want to see what people have to say quickly. Either that, or I'm just bored.

  • 11.29.2005 6:35 PM PDT
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My friend, you would not tell with ſuch high zeſt
To children ardent for ſome deſperate glory,
The old Lie: Dulce et decorum eſt
Pro patria mori.

For a long while I thought people were just saying "tsp" as a general statement of disaproval, like "tsk"...

  • 11.29.2005 6:40 PM PDT
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Yeah I would have thought "tsp" was part of a forum recipe or something...

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1 Cup Flame
2 tsp Rational Conversation
4 Cups Ling-Ling Sauce
13 Mods
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[hr]Instructions: Add flames and rational conversation to forums and mix thoroughly. Beat Mods until lumps appear then add to mix. Bake on 350 for hours then let cool. Pour Ling-Ling sauce on top and garnish with community team.
Note: For more flavor you may want to add 3 tbs ignorance, this adds flavor but is optional.

  • 11.30.2005 6:00 AM PDT

Posted by: Kilroy
I'm not sure what causes this. But, one solution is to reply with a post saying "tsp" or To-See-Post. That usually brings them up.

Don't do that.

It's annoying and leaves more for me to delete. Just wait for the cache to refresh. I'm sure you can find something else to do for a few minutes.

  • 11.30.2005 7:39 AM PDT

As for the original comment: When a moderator deletes a post from a thread, it messes things up. Before the most recent update, we were able to see that there was an additional page, but for some reason couldn't get to it without manually typing in the page number in the url. Now, we don't even know another page exists, except for the fact that there are replies we cannot see. Just change the page number to the appropriate next page (ex: If the thread states there are only 4 pages, but there seems to be 5, change the 4 to a 5 in the url. Why did I just have that example? Isn't it self-explanitory enought for a chimp to understand without that stupid example?).

Edit: Actually, the old problem was that you couldn't go directly to the last page of the thread from the main page of the forum. You would click on the last page (say page number 4) and come to find out that there is actually 5 pages in the thread once you got in the thread because it would have a page 5 listed in the thread. It now doesn't list page 5.

Take the "Mugshots" thread in The Flood. Right now, it says there are 153 pages. I click on 153, and it looks like the last page, but it isn't (since the last person to post in the thread isn't the last person on the page) and I have no way to see how many pages there are. I change it to 154 in the url, and it's still saying it's page 153 and it's still not the last page. Change it to 155, and it is finally the last page (but it still says 153).

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  • 11.30.2005 7:49 AM PDT
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It's a sign of the Apocalypse, you should start running.

Probably cache issues, I wouldn't worry about it.

  • 11.30.2005 7:54 AM PDT
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Thanks for the page number trick. I was suprised that it took more than 12 hours for the posts to actually show up for me! I am assuming these problems aren't the same for everyone. Does it depend where you are geographically? Say someone in California can see it while myself in Michigan can't? Different servers for different locations?

  • 11.30.2005 8:27 AM PDT

It's the same for everybody. What I believe happens, is that a moderator deletes a post and the number of replies on the main forum page decreases by 1. The problem is, it doesn't effect the number of post on that particular page (it still acts like the post is there). The system might set up the number of pages shown on the main forum page by the number of replies shown on the main forum page.

Using the Mugshots thread as an example, there are now 3810 replies. Dividing that number by 25 (number of posts per page) gives you 152.4. Obviously there can't be a .4 of a page, the number would be 153 (which is the number of pages shown on the main page). The problem is, there has been over 25 posts deleted. The thread, still counting the deleted posts on a particular page, has moved the number of pages up to 155.

I think I'm confusing myself, but that is what is happening. I just think I need to explain it better.

  • 11.30.2005 8:47 AM PDT
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Ah, I see. I thought there were a couple of servers that serviced everyone on Bungie.net, and that the servers mirrored each other and updated each other every few minutes. I was thinking that maybe a server was screwy again.

Ok, from now on I'm going to try the "change the page number" trick and see if that resolves it. And hopefully no one ever posts something stupid again so we won't ever have this problem again. (And then right after that people can have a snowball fight in hell.)

  • 11.30.2005 8:56 AM PDT

Discipline is my Sword,
Faith is my Shield,
Do not leap blindly into uncertainty,
And you may live to reap the rewards.

"The Important Thing Is To Never Stop Questioning,"

I've encountered this problem a few times myself: The posts not showing up though they are there. try deleting all of your cookies and emptying out your cache, then force reload the page qith Crtl-F5, this usually does the trick for me. You see its not always the bug previously described, and if not this simple fix will work much faster.

  • 11.30.2005 11:25 AM PDT