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Subject: Why Halo's tech IS more advanced than current days. UPDATED #3 BR

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  • 01.08.2011 9:23 AM PDT
Subject: Why Halo's tech IS more advanced than current days.

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Posted by: HipiO7
This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


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The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

Nice thread. I cant understand either how people can say modern day tech is more advanced than Halo's tech.

I mean, just because the games dont show much, as you said, gameplay factors, dosent mean that the weapon in reality(canon) is the exact same.

That's what for me makes the Needle Rifle and the Focus Rifle scary to even think about how it would tear apart people in reality. But then again, that's something that I have always liked about Halo, it seems belivable, it's not farfetched with flying cars and stuff like that.

  • 01.08.2011 9:29 AM PDT
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Adding on to the point about the MA5's power, I think we can assume that the MA5 also has some sort of advanced recoil absorption system. It would pretty much be uncontrollable in full auto otherwise.

Heck, a few full auto capable M-14s (uses the same 7.62 x 51 round) were produced, and even they were pretty much impossible to use even though the M-14 is a pretty heavy rifle.

Although, I'd find it very difficult to believe that the MA5 would never jam.

[Edited on 01.08.2011 9:46 AM PST]

  • 01.08.2011 9:44 AM PDT

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  • 01.08.2011 9:56 AM PDT
Subject: Why Halo's tech IS more advanced than current days. UPDATED: SH...
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why can't we have automatic or at least semi automatic shotguns in halo?

  • 01.08.2011 10:02 AM PDT

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Posted by: Sparty Boy 117
why can't we have automatic or at least semi automatic shotguns in halo?


Well, there has only been one reason ever given in canon:

The sound it makes when you pump it is really badass. Seriously, that's the only reason we have.

Now, it's also possible that a smemi auto or full auto firing mode would mess with the recoil damping system in place that handles the 8 guage's famous recoil in real life, but that's just my theory.

[Edited on 01.08.2011 10:19 AM PST]

  • 01.08.2011 10:16 AM PDT

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Canonical issues screwed with the weaponry, but yeah, if the books are right, the halo weapons would be more advanced most of the time, maybe the BR being the odd one out

  • 01.08.2011 10:17 AM PDT

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Posted by: EachToxic wolf
Canonical issues screwed with the weaponry, but yeah, if the books are right, the halo weapons would be more advanced most of the time, maybe the BR being the odd one out


Well, I'd like to do a BR - M16 comparsion, but I need to know about the BR's ammo, but it's a fictional round: 9.5x40mm.

If anyone wants to tell me what the number mean, I could make a comparsion.

  • 01.08.2011 10:24 AM PDT
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Posted by: JABBERWOCK xeno
Next, let's look at the ammunition: 7.62x51mm rounds.

Now then, I have no clue what that means, but I know the M4 fires a 5.56x45mm round, and this image shows the m4 round on the left, and the MA5 round on the right. Yes, it uses real ammo.
Just to clarify, the first number (5.56 or 7.62) indicates the diameter of the base of the bullet, whereas the second number indicates the length.

This makes the 5.56x45mm round 5.56mm wide and 45mm long.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Oh, hey:Posted by: JABBERWOCK xeno
If anyone wants to tell me what the number mean, I could make a comparsion.
The M16 fires the 5.56x45mm round, and the BR, the 9.5x40mm round.

This means the BR is nearly half an inch wide and 40mm long (just shy of what, a quarter of an inch?).

The NATO round is longer, but the BR round is wider. Much wider.

[Edited on 01.08.2011 10:45 AM PST]

  • 01.08.2011 10:41 AM PDT
Subject: Why Halo's tech IS more advanced than current days.

Please don't hype for games...
They'll just fall short of your expectations and you'll complain for months.

Good thread. In the books, it also says one shot by plasmas is also usually fatal.

  • 01.08.2011 11:14 AM PDT
Subject: Why Halo's tech IS more advanced than current days. UPDATED: SH...

hm, interesting. I always thought they were weaker.

I suppose the big player in UNSC weapons is the HUD for all soldiers the electronics behind it, and the ability to get these weapons out there ASAP.

Mass producing cheaper, slightly less accurate weapons that are otherwise superior in every way imaginable way >>>>>>>>>>>>modern day.

  • 01.08.2011 11:14 AM PDT
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Current day tech isn't ballanced for competitive multiplayer.

/tread.

  • 01.08.2011 11:17 AM PDT
Subject: Why Halo's tech IS more advanced than current days.

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Posted by: Alpha00
Good thread. In the books, it also says one shot by plasmas is also usually fatal.


I'm planning to do Covie weapons, I still need to work out some stuff...

SMG comparsion is up.

  • 01.08.2011 11:49 AM PDT

The assault rifle range isn't fair, 500 meters for the M4 is assuming with some kind of scope, while the MA5's 300 meters was by colonial militia without a scope.

The sniper comparison won't even be close, the halo sniper only has the disadvantage of magazine size. And the pistol...

  • 01.08.2011 12:01 PM PDT


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The assault rifle range isn't fair, 500 meters for the M4 is assuming with some kind of scope, while the MA5's 300 meters was by colonial militia without a scope.

The sniper comparison won't even be close, the halo sniper only has the disadvantage of magazine size. And the pistol...


M6D Halo CE Pistol>all.

  • 01.08.2011 12:08 PM PDT

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Posted by: the n00b pwner
The assault rifle range isn't fair, 500 meters for the M4 is assuming with some kind of scope, while the MA5's 300 meters was by colonial militia without a scope.

The sniper comparison won't even be close, the halo sniper only has the disadvantage of magazine size. And the pistol...


Those range stats are from official sources of the max effective range of the weapon, so it is fair.

I don't plan to do the sniper, nor the pistol.

  • 01.08.2011 12:08 PM PDT
Subject: Why Halo's tech IS more advanced than current days. UPDATED #2:...

great thread. i understand the canon behind each weapon. Even in gameplay you can hit objects from far away with the assualt rifle if burst firing. but in game it doesnt kill. in real life those 1-3 bullets would be fatal.

the DMR/BR would destroy in real life. the scopes would destroy iron sights of m4's

  • 01.08.2011 12:10 PM PDT
Subject: Why Halo's tech IS more advanced than current days.

I love this thread. Thank you for seemingly finally putting argument to rest.

  • 01.08.2011 12:11 PM PDT

Posted by: JABBERWOCK xeno
Posted by: the n00b pwner
The assault rifle range isn't fair, 500 meters for the M4 is assuming with some kind of scope, while the MA5's 300 meters was by colonial militia without a scope.

The sniper comparison won't even be close, the halo sniper only has the disadvantage of magazine size. And the pistol...


Those range stats are from official sources of the max effective range of the weapon, so it is fair.

I don't plan to do the sniper, nor the pistol.


Having read Contact Harvest, I know where those stats came from, and why they are unfair.

  • 01.08.2011 12:14 PM PDT
Subject: Why Halo's tech IS more advanced than current days. UPDATED #2:...

- Dragon Ball/Z/GT and it's merchandise are awesome.
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- Humanity, as a whole, is stupid.
- I have asperger's syndrome
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Posted by: the n00b pwner
Posted by: JABBERWOCK xeno
Posted by: the n00b pwner
The assault rifle range isn't fair, 500 meters for the M4 is assuming with some kind of scope, while the MA5's 300 meters was by colonial militia without a scope.

The sniper comparison won't even be close, the halo sniper only has the disadvantage of magazine size. And the pistol...


Those range stats are from official sources of the max effective range of the weapon, so it is fair.

I don't plan to do the sniper, nor the pistol.


Having read Contact Harvest, I know where those stats came from, and why they are unfair.


I've read it, but the stats bungie gave on their article for the AR overrides contact harvest canonically. Bungie/games > Books/other media > advertisments/viral campaigns.

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Posted by: JABBERWOCK xeno
Next, let's look at the ammunition: 7.62x51mm rounds.

Now then, I have no clue what that means, but I know the M4 fires a 5.56x45mm round, and this image shows the m4 round on the left, and the MA5 round on the right. Yes, it uses real ammo.
Just to clarify, the first number (5.56 or 7.62) indicates the diameter of the base of the bullet, whereas the second number indicates the length.

This makes the 5.56x45mm round 5.56mm wide and 45mm long.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Oh, hey:Posted by: JABBERWOCK xeno
If anyone wants to tell me what the number mean, I could make a comparsion.
The M16 fires the 5.56x45mm round, and the BR, the 9.5x40mm round.

This means the BR is nearly half an inch wide and 40mm long (just shy of what, a quarter of an inch?).

The NATO round is longer, but the BR round is wider. Much wider.


Which would you say has more stopping power?

[Edited on 01.08.2011 12:25 PM PST]

  • 01.08.2011 12:24 PM PDT
Subject: Why Halo's tech IS more advanced than current days.


Posted by: HipiO7
That's what for me makes the Needle Rifle and the Focus Rifle scary to even think about how it would tear apart people in reality.
The Focus Rifle would also make a great Anti-Tank Weapon.

Imagine driving a Scorpion, only to have molten, super-heated slag that used to be the canopy completely dowse you.

  • 01.08.2011 1:16 PM PDT
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I'd like to to see a comparison with the Abrams and the Scorpian.

[Edited on 01.08.2011 1:31 PM PST]

  • 01.08.2011 1:31 PM PDT
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A shotgun with 100m's of range!? I find that hard to believe, even in the future.

  • 01.08.2011 2:33 PM PDT

It's silly to try to compare Halo to real life. CoD I would understand but not Halo.

  • 01.08.2011 2:48 PM PDT

- Dragon Ball/Z/GT and it's merchandise are awesome.
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Posted by: ddd777
A shotgun with 100m's of range!? I find that hard to believe, even in the future.


There are certain ammo types that have that kind of range for a shotgun today, but not with this kind of power.

Posted by: Simbrian
It's silly to try to compare Halo to real life. CoD I would understand but not Halo.


Then why are you in the universe fourm? Anything mentioned in the Halo canon is possible anyways, just unlikely or beyond our tech level.



  • 01.08.2011 3:11 PM PDT

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