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Subject: Why are there dead Spartans on the level "Lone Wolf"?

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  • 01.08.2011 9:07 PM PDT

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Im sorry for my coup changes but Im new at this.

because somebody kill them

  • 01.08.2011 9:07 PM PDT

"It is done. By my hands. The pyrrhic solution is ignited. All I have left is the quiet of space to lull me to sleep.
I will dream of you." - The Didact

I don't think there's ever been a name for what group they were from. They're just a bunch of Spartan-IIIs that did what they were meant to do: Help fight the enemies of the UNSC

  • 01.08.2011 10:34 PM PDT


Posted by: GhostRyderCA941
I don't think there's ever been a name for what group they were from. They're just a bunch of Spartan-IIIs that did what they were meant to do: Help fight the enemies of the UNSC

Goody, more Spartans being ONI'd into existance. Hoorah...

Can we just say they're supposed to be Red team?

  • 01.08.2011 11:14 PM PDT

"It is done. By my hands. The pyrrhic solution is ignited. All I have left is the quiet of space to lull me to sleep.
I will dream of you." - The Didact

no...Those spartans that are on the level Lone Wolf are Spartan-IIIs...Red team was comprised of Spartan-IIs

[Edited on 01.08.2011 11:34 PM PST]

  • 01.08.2011 11:33 PM PDT

Posted by: GhostRyderCA941
no...Those spartans that are on the level Lone Wolf are Spartan-IIIs...Red team was comprised of Spartan-IIs


What proof do you have that those were spartan IIIs?

  • 01.08.2011 11:39 PM PDT


Posted by: the n00b pwner
Posted by: GhostRyderCA941
no...Those spartans that are on the level Lone Wolf are Spartan-IIIs...Red team was comprised of Spartan-IIs


What proof do you have that those were spartan IIIs?

None, nor do we have any proof that they are SPARTAN-IIs.
The only argument that could be made to say that they are SPARTAN IIIs, is that they wear the custom armor that the other IIIs in the game wear, while Red Team was supposed to all be wearing the base Mk. V.

It just makes more sense for them to be SPARTAN-IIs, as if they are SPARTAN IIIs, we now get to add 30+ SPARTAN IIIs to the already existing roster, and give an explanation as to how they are alive*, and why they are on Reach. The inevitable answer to this is going to be "Oni did it" which wore thin a while ago.

Hence, why I hope they end up being Red Team.

*Alive up until the Covenant killed them on Reach.

[Edited on 01.08.2011 11:49 PM PST]

  • 01.08.2011 11:48 PM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

Posted by: the n00b pwner
Posted by: GhostRyderCA941
no...Those spartans that are on the level Lone Wolf are Spartan-IIIs...Red team was comprised of Spartan-IIs


What proof do you have that those were spartan IIIs?


Well, according to First Strike/Fall of Reach all the II's were issued the same kind of armor. All the default Mark V that the Chief wore.

  • 01.08.2011 11:48 PM PDT


Posted by: privet caboose
Posted by: the n00b pwner
Posted by: GhostRyderCA941
no...Those spartans that are on the level Lone Wolf are Spartan-IIIs...Red team was comprised of Spartan-IIs


What proof do you have that those were spartan IIIs?


Well, according to First Strike/Fall of Reach all the II's were issued the same kind of armor. All the default Mark V that the Chief wore.

Either way, it's going to mess something in the canon up. We either drop the original "All S-IIs wore the same armor" from the mythos, or we say ONI removed even more S-IIIs from their groups before they were sent on suicide missions(They seem to have done that quite a bit, at this point). Pick your poison.

[Edited on 01.08.2011 11:55 PM PST]

  • 01.08.2011 11:55 PM PDT

They're probably from Gauntlet and/or Echo teams, which Kat mentions after New Alexandria. Both were assigned to civilian evac defense, so it's make sense that it's them considering their location.

[Edited on 01.08.2011 11:59 PM PST]

  • 01.08.2011 11:59 PM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

Posted by: GanonSmash
They're probably from Gauntlet and/or Echo teams, which Kat mentions after New Alexandria. Both were assigned to civilian evac defense, so it's make sense that it's them considering their location.


And Gauntlet and Echo both fit with Spartan III fireteam names, as Spartan II fireteam names were colors.

  • 01.09.2011 12:20 AM PDT

Tripp

Well the Spartan III's were trained in company's of 300 at a time, so its very possible it may have been Gamma members

  • 01.09.2011 4:54 AM PDT

those were the old noble sixs

  • 01.09.2011 7:30 AM PDT

I am the God Emprah of Mankind.

Deal with it.

I think that they're spartan II's from red team.

  • 01.09.2011 8:14 AM PDT

Posted by: EchoGamer

Posted by: GhostRyderCA941
I don't think there's ever been a name for what group they were from. They're just a bunch of Spartan-IIIs that did what they were meant to do: Help fight the enemies of the UNSC

Goody, more Spartans being ONI'd into existance. Hoorah...

Can we just say they're supposed to be Red team?
I like the idea of ONI nabbing Spartans at will for their personal, secret use. It opens up new possibilities without damaging canon.

OT: They're randomly generated. Kinda-sorta symbolic, kinda-sorta just a cool set-piece.

  • 01.09.2011 9:19 AM PDT

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Im sure there just some that where helping the Autumn escape.

  • 01.09.2011 9:25 AM PDT

Posted by: Carter Legend
those were the old noble sixs
Win.

  • 01.09.2011 9:26 AM PDT

"I didn't want to kill ya, its just that your too damn ugly to let live" -Sgt Major Avery Johnson.

could be a mix of II's and III's. The Spartan II's were sent planet side according to fall of reach and first strike. However it could be the ones that did not survive the augmentation according to Halsey's Journal ONI wanted the dead bodies for a different reason.

The Spartan II's wore that bulky armor where III's wore SPI armor up til Noble team. Next time you play through Lone Wolf take a look at the armor and see if its bulky or not, if you can see the outline of a persons leg or butt then its a III. However another idea is it could be Kat, Emile and the other members of your team.

Like everyone else says pick your poison but Bungie said in due time all will be set right for canon.

  • 01.09.2011 9:49 AM PDT

Posted by: privet caboose
Posted by: the n00b pwner
Posted by: GhostRyderCA941
no...Those spartans that are on the level Lone Wolf are Spartan-IIIs...Red team was comprised of Spartan-IIs


What proof do you have that those were spartan IIIs?


Well, according to First Strike/Fall of Reach all the II's were issued the same kind of armor. All the default Mark V that the Chief wore.


True, but they could have made 'additions' like Jorge. Also, how could they be Spartan IIIs if alpha and beta are dead (with the exception of Noble) and gamma is on Onyx?

  • 01.09.2011 11:53 AM PDT

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Posted by: Techno Greek
Posted by: EchoGamer
Posted by: GhostRyderCA941
I don't think there's ever been a name for what group they were from. They're just a bunch of Spartan-IIIs that did what they were meant to do: Help fight the enemies of the UNSC

Goody, more Spartans being ONI'd into existance. Hoorah...

Can we just say they're supposed to be Red team?
I like the idea of ONI nabbing Spartans at will for their personal, secret use. It opens up new possibilities without damaging canon.

OT: They're randomly generated. Kinda-sorta symbolic, kinda-sorta just a cool set-piece.


You're joking, right? Noble Team alone breaks canon, we don't need more being pulled out of PROMETHEUS and TORPEDO to screw things up more, the whole point of the conclusion of those battles was that every S-III (minus Tom & Lucy) died in a similar way to the battle of Thermopylae.

Pulling out S-IIIs before the op is a terrible way of trying to cover up the fact that they shouldn't be alive. A few S-IIIs would be at least acceptable, but any more will just destory the point Nylund made.

  • 01.09.2011 12:17 PM PDT


Posted by: sierraone11711
could be a mix of II's and III's. The Spartan II's were sent planet side according to fall of reach and first strike. However it could be the ones that did not survive the augmentation according to Halsey's Journal ONI wanted the dead bodies for a different reason.

The Spartan II's wore that bulky armor where III's wore SPI armor up til Noble team. Next time you play through Lone Wolf take a look at the armor and see if its bulky or not, if you can see the outline of a persons leg or butt then its a III. However another idea is it could be Kat, Emile and the other members of your team.

Like everyone else says pick your poison but Bungie said in due time all will be set right for canon.
"but Bungie said in due time all will be set right for canon" when did bungie say this?

  • 01.09.2011 2:03 PM PDT

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This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

There are more dead Spartan's. They are all over the place.

Those Spartan's were most likely fighting down under the Pillar of Autumn where those the Scarabs were. Or they were just there non-canon wise just to give you the feeling that ''this is it, your going to die''.

  • 01.09.2011 2:12 PM PDT

Posted by: ajw34307
Posted by: Techno Greek
Posted by: EchoGamer
Posted by: GhostRyderCA941
I don't think there's ever been a name for what group they were from. They're just a bunch of Spartan-IIIs that did what they were meant to do: Help fight the enemies of the UNSC

Goody, more Spartans being ONI'd into existance. Hoorah...

Can we just say they're supposed to be Red team?
I like the idea of ONI nabbing Spartans at will for their personal, secret use. It opens up new possibilities without damaging canon.

OT: They're randomly generated. Kinda-sorta symbolic, kinda-sorta just a cool set-piece.


You're joking, right? Noble Team alone breaks canon, we don't need more being pulled out of PROMETHEUS and TORPEDO to screw things up more, the whole point of the conclusion of those battles was that every S-III (minus Tom & Lucy) died in a similar way to the battle of Thermopylae.

Pulling out S-IIIs before the op is a terrible way of trying to cover up the fact that they shouldn't be alive. A few S-IIIs would be at least acceptable, but any more will just destory the point Nylund made.


Read Ghosts of Onyx carefully, Noble team is hinted at when Ackerson asks for Tom and Lucy to work for him. Thus Noble is still canon, though 13 more would certainly break canon.

  • 01.09.2011 2:43 PM PDT

They're either S-IIIs from gamma team or S-IIs retreating to the Autumn.

  • 01.09.2011 2:45 PM PDT
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Posted by: Techno Greek
Posted by: EchoGamer
Posted by: GhostRyderCA941
I don't think there's ever been a name for what group they were from. They're just a bunch of Spartan-IIIs that did what they were meant to do: Help fight the enemies of the UNSC

Goody, more Spartans being ONI'd into existance. Hoorah...

Can we just say they're supposed to be Red team?
I like the idea of ONI nabbing Spartans at will for their personal, secret use. It opens up new possibilities without damaging canon.

OT: They're randomly generated. Kinda-sorta symbolic, kinda-sorta just a cool set-piece.


You're joking, right? Noble Team alone breaks canon, we don't need more being pulled out of PROMETHEUS and TORPEDO to screw things up more, the whole point of the conclusion of those battles was that every S-III (minus Tom & Lucy) died in a similar way to the battle of Thermopylae.

Pulling out S-IIIs before the op is a terrible way of trying to cover up the fact that they shouldn't be alive. A few S-IIIs would be at least acceptable, but any more will just destory the point Nylund made.

Canon-wise, games have more weight than the books.

I think that maybe the Spartan IIIs were the probably the few survivors and were tasked with defending the Pillar of Autumn from the Covenant. You didn't see them because you were too busy on the landing platform and too far away to see them anyway.

  • 01.09.2011 2:49 PM PDT

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