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Subject: Could SWORD Base Halsey =/= CASTLE Base Halsey
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One day... I am gonna grow wings... A chemical reaction... Hysterical and useless... hystecial and let down and hanging around... crushed like a bug in the ground.

I'm suprised this hasn't been mentioned yet.
In the journal it clearly states that Halsey has cloned herself.
Never during the game was it stated that it was the real Halsey beneath Sword Base.

Perhaps Halsey created a clone of herself for each Forerunner relic.
It would make sense canologically and why she at first refused to be escorted to CASTLE.
Perhaps the journal was given to the SWORD Halsey or...
The SWORD Halsey could be the real Halsey while the CASTLE/ONYX one was just a clone.
Hell, I wonder how many different Halseys have popped up in Halo lore.

  • 01.10.2011 4:24 PM PDT

Hold your ground, hold your ground! Sons of Gondor, of Rohan, my brothers! I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me. A day may come when the courage of men fails, when we forsake our friends and break all bonds of fellowship, but it is not this day. An hour of woes and shattered shields, when the age of men comes crashing down! But it is not this day! This day we fight! By all that you hold dear on this good Earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West!

She cloned herself to make Cortana. There's only one Halsey.

  • 01.10.2011 4:28 PM PDT

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  • 01.10.2011 4:30 PM PDT
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One day... I am gonna grow wings... A chemical reaction... Hysterical and useless... hystecial and let down and hanging around... crushed like a bug in the ground.


Posted by: Austin lax16
She cloned herself to make Cortana. There's only one Halsey.


No, in the Journal she clearly clones herself litreally.
This is also after the date at which Cortana was created through a clone of Halseys brain.

[Edited on 01.10.2011 4:31 PM PST]

  • 01.10.2011 4:30 PM PDT

Hold your ground, hold your ground! Sons of Gondor, of Rohan, my brothers! I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me. A day may come when the courage of men fails, when we forsake our friends and break all bonds of fellowship, but it is not this day. An hour of woes and shattered shields, when the age of men comes crashing down! But it is not this day! This day we fight! By all that you hold dear on this good Earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West!


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Posted by: Austin lax16
She cloned herself to make Cortana. There's only one Halsey.


No, in the Journal she clearly clones herself litreally.
This is also after the date at which Cortana was created through a clone of Halseys brain.

Oh. I didn't read the journal. Maybe you're right.

  • 01.10.2011 4:35 PM PDT

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The Halsey mentioned in the journal would have been too young to be the Halsey seen in Halo Reach. A flash clone would have been mentally impaired, meaning that the Halsey under SWORD base was the "real" Halsey.

It is possible that the Halsey speaking after "Lone Wolf" is the clone, meaning the Halsey did not escape Onyx.

  • 01.10.2011 4:36 PM PDT
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One day... I am gonna grow wings... A chemical reaction... Hysterical and useless... hystecial and let down and hanging around... crushed like a bug in the ground.


Posted by: CTN 0452 9
The Halsey mentioned in the journal would have been too young to be the Halsey seen in Halo Reach. A flash clone would have been mentally impaired, meaning that the Halsey under SWORD base was the "real" Halsey.

It is possible that the Halsey speaking after "Lone Wolf" is the clone, meaning the Halsey did not escape Onyx.


Did she?


[Edited on 01.10.2011 4:40 PM PST]

  • 01.10.2011 4:39 PM PDT
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NO! No. No. no. For a billion alternate universes, the answer will always be no.

  • 01.10.2011 4:57 PM PDT

"What do you hear?"
"Nothing but the rain."
"Then grab your gun and bring in the cat."
"Boom, boom, boom!"

No, it's not a clone the SPARTANs speak to.

Yes, she cloned herself. She cloned herself to create Cortana.

"Used the same mothballed equipment used to create clones of the Spartan candidates. This time, however, I've enhanced the neural physiology at the expense of the other bodily functions."

Doing that left the clones in malformed.

"I successfully excised all brains from their bodily shells and placed them in cryogenic units."

She later talks about how much time is left until the personality transfer is complete and how she flash-incinerated the remaining organs. So that right there kills any theory of there being a Swordbase clone.

  • 01.10.2011 5:46 PM PDT