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Dear Bungie,

Please don't put bots in HALO 2. At least not on XBOX LIVE. I believe that if HALO 2 has a ranking system like that found in Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow, people would find a way to use the bots to gain points in order to reach the number 1 rank on the leader board. If you have already implemented bots in HALO 2, please take it out. If not, please don't put them in because it will take some time and I want HALO 2 now. And I think that bots ruin the whole premise of HALO's multiplayer, the teamwork and team strategies.

You're number 1 fan, Me

PS.. Bots are ignorant and raising their difficulty only makes them "cheap"

[Edited on 5/7/2004 2:03:36 PM]

  • 05.07.2004 2:03 PM PDT
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I dont think the ranking system will be done in online action games any more. With the ammount of people against the idea, it would be really foolish to recreate the concept.

  • 05.07.2004 2:04 PM PDT
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shutup applejack

[Edited on 5/7/2004 2:05:25 PM]

  • 05.07.2004 2:04 PM PDT
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Bots would be good in certain areas, such as HUGE 32 player city battles.... but i don't like the idea of ranking at all in an fps

  • 05.07.2004 2:06 PM PDT
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Bots would be fine, if there were no scoreboards or the scoreboards automatically get disabled one bots are enabled. I understand where applejacks is coming from. There is alot of Halo junkies out there that intend on seeing their GamerTag in 1st place on the scoreboards and will probably do anything including cheating with bots, to get there.

  • 05.07.2004 2:11 PM PDT
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Dear Applejacks21,

please pipe down. Not everyone gets broadband that's paid for by their parents. Not everyone can receive broadband in the first place. Not everyone has a credit card for Xbox Live.

If Bungie were to put bots in Halo 2 (which I hope they do), they would obviously also put in an option to set however many you wish, if any at all. You won't have to play with bots.

  • 05.07.2004 2:12 PM PDT
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thank you boot, you and i seem to be the only ones here with a brain.. im just saying that bots would suck in games with rankings and leaderboards.. i would definitely be number 1 if there was bots and rankings... bots are fine in huge maps and fragfests, it just might taint the scores a little... oh, and bots are stupid

  • 05.07.2004 2:14 PM PDT
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applejacks, I'm the kind of person who spazzes when there are AFKs (on either team). They jack up the scoring by sitting there and letting anybody kill them. Yet, I still think you're dumb. You're basically saying "Hey, let's ruin the non-XBox Live portion of the multiplayer (barring a large gathering of people), for the sake of the leaderboards." What are you going to do next? Demand that n00Bz not be allowed to play on Live? The only people who are going to be on the leaderboard are the leet players, and a large portion of their kill count would be from n00bz. What's their incentive to go to a server with good players when they can just mop up newbies all day?

Of course, I also don't like the thought of the leaderboard at all. For one, it'd press good players onto crappy servers to have some n00B kill fests, and I dislike the idea of every time I die, it's a black mark on my record for all eternity.

  • 05.07.2004 2:23 PM PDT
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Well about we allow bots with offline play, and when it comes to online play, when bots are enabled, the score boards are disabled. That way there is no cheating.

  • 05.07.2004 2:25 PM PDT
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Boot, again thank you...

I SAID NO BOTS ON LIVE... i never said anything about "those who can't afford Cable connection" btw, I pay for my cable connection, along with my apartment, and car, and car insurance...etc... I say no bots on LIVE, and bots for those who have no friends(offline)...

  • 05.07.2004 2:28 PM PDT
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Yeah, you said "at least on XBox Live." Then you went on to ask them to take bots out if they had already put them in. Make up your mind, you sound like John Kerry.

AND, at any rate:
Bots yes.
Leaderboard no.

You could also make any kills/deaths involving bots not be scored on your scoresheet (but WILL be scored at the end of a game), and allow bots on XBL.

  • 05.07.2004 2:32 PM PDT
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"You could also make any kills/deaths involving bots not be scored on your scoresheet (but WILL be scored at the end of a game), and allow bots on XBL."

There, there is the solution!

Oh, and by the way.... when HALO 2 comes out, I'd bet you anything there will be NO BOTS ANYWHERE so all your flames, insults, comments, ideas, and CRAAP will have been pointless...

  • 05.07.2004 2:39 PM PDT
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What flames? I said you were dumb for wanting to eradicate bots (insult #1), and then proposed my solution. Sure, I compared you to John Kerry but... (insult #2).

No flames though, just a segment letting you know that you were only worrying about just one part of a larger problem. Meh. You make it sound like I get worked up about this, when I really just have nothing better to do.

  • 05.07.2004 2:44 PM PDT
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I bet you there will be scoreboards. And all bots should be tracked, if bungie even includes them. That way you could easily tell who sits there and kills bots 24/7.

Anyways, I want scoreboards so I can compete with other gamers that do not cheat. I could care less about the opportunists who find ways to cheat the system.

  • 05.07.2004 2:46 PM PDT
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But bots in general are a good thing. What if one day, all of your friends are at class or at work and you dont have Xbox Live or anything like that. then you could load the game and basically "practice" against the bots. i think bots are an awesome idea. but i agree there should not be bots on live. bots should only be allowed when there is only one or two human players. if you have more than two real people then you shouldnt need the bots in the first place.

  • 05.07.2004 2:48 PM PDT
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There have already been solutions stated. Numerous times.

  • 05.07.2004 2:49 PM PDT
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I'm all for bots since I'm in a town full of PS2 fanboys and don't have LIVE. As for scoreboards when it DO get LIVE, I don't need 'em. I want to get in some headshots, not be called a noob when I start as level 1.

  • 05.07.2004 3:11 PM PDT
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Bots wouldn't go in X-Box Live, and there probably isn't a ranking system.

  • 05.07.2004 3:35 PM PDT
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appleJackASS! , i complete agree with YOU!

  • 05.07.2004 3:39 PM PDT
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? Dr -blam!-more ?

  • 05.07.2004 3:41 PM PDT
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OMG, why would they ever NOT put bots in Halo 2. Who cares about some online ladder anyway. It might start out okay, but it will degenerate into a bunch of spoiled brats picking on newbs. Bots would greatly improve Halo 2, especially for those that don't have XBL.

  • 05.07.2004 4:06 PM PDT