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Subject: Perhaps those were not Precursor ruins on that planet?

"Shall we let the Flood consume our holy city? Turn High Charity into another of their wretched hives? No enemy has ever withstood our might. The Flood, too, shall fail."

-Prophet of Truth.

In the first episode of Legends, the ODST's land on the planet to find ruins, presumed to be Precursor. I don't remember the planet's name, but I think it is called Henoi or something.

Anyways, now that we know that humanity was once an INTERSTELLAR empire thousands of years, and eventually lost the war against the Forerunners, I'm thinking maybe those were very old Human ruins from a long lost battle?

This would explain the similar architecture, and the fact that there are pipes with dials, much like us.

  • 01.14.2011 10:59 AM PDT
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"Time was your ally human. But now it has abandoned you. The Forerunners....have returned. And this tomb... is now yours". - The Didact

True,no doubt about that

I remember halo legends haters saying "omgz 343 made the forerunners look like japananese oh -blam!-"

What about the delta halo and sandbox ruins they look a little like egyptian and aztec buildings too..

  • 01.14.2011 11:19 AM PDT

Seriously Oak, Ive been doing this -blam!- for 16 years, gimmie my Friggen starter Pokemon and dont call me till im the champion! ¬_¬

The babysitter? those deffinatly were not forerunner ruins, but you have to remember.

its an Anime, and Anime artists are used to designing architecture in that classic eastern style. they probobly justified it with "Some long dead civilisation" but chances are it was just because they wernt used to drawing forerunner architecture.

Its like if you asked two people to draw what they imagined john to look like without his helmet. Considering they have the same amount of talent, they'll both draw very different faces

i may have this wrong, and bungie may have said themselves there's a big secret to it, but in creating a new media platform, things'll change in the translation

  • 01.14.2011 12:07 PM PDT

Posted by: TallestSpark
In the first episode of Legends, the ODST's land on the planet to find ruins, presumed to be Precursor. I don't remember the planet's name, but I think it is called Henoi or something.

Anyways, now that we know that humanity was once an INTERSTELLAR empire thousands of years, and eventually lost the war against the Forerunners, I'm thinking maybe those were very old Human ruins from a long lost battle?

This would explain the similar architecture, and the fact that there are pipes with dials, much like us.


what? humanity an interstellar empire? war? when did this happen?

  • 01.14.2011 12:13 PM PDT

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I blaim the Japanese anime artists for it. They are used to taking Western things and making them look Japanese.

Personally, I think Legends was nothing more than a terrible joke and I don't think any of it should be considered canon. For all I care, those ruins don't exist, the planet doesn't exist and those ODSTs never landed there.

  • 01.14.2011 1:12 PM PDT

I don't care. I really don't.


Posted by: Spartan Mikey
what? humanity an interstellar empire? war? when did this happen?

Since Greg Bear got his masterful mind into the Halo series and was given an anything goes card.

OT: I think they are, and I don't think it's really an argument any more; if it's not human, whose are they? Wrong style for Forerunner, too small and destructible without needing a Halo, so not Precursor.
The only reasonable choice is ancient human.

  • 01.14.2011 1:33 PM PDT

Seriously Oak, Ive been doing this -blam!- for 16 years, gimmie my Friggen starter Pokemon and dont call me till im the champion! ¬_¬

Actually, why are forerunner, precursor and human the only options people are thinking?

Could have been a San-Shaymin or Sanghelli settlement before the halo's went off, in fact id probobly go for Sanghelli because they have a very japanese themed lifestyle from what i can tell. Focusing on Honour and Strength, loyalty in death to serve the noblest cause, sounds pretty samurai-ish to me

Who knows, maybe the idea is that the ancient japanese based their architechture and sociaty on what was left from sanghelli culture. ive yet to read cryptum so i dont know much about time before the halo's went boom, but who knows.

  • 01.14.2011 2:26 PM PDT

"Shall we let the Flood consume our holy city? Turn High Charity into another of their wretched hives? No enemy has ever withstood our might. The Flood, too, shall fail."

-Prophet of Truth.


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Posted by: Spartan Mikey
what? humanity an interstellar empire? war? when did this happen?

Since Greg Bear got his masterful mind into the Halo series and was given an anything goes card.

OT: I think they are, and I don't think it's really an argument any more; if it's not human, whose are they? Wrong style for Forerunner, too small and destructible without needing a Halo, so not Precursor.

The only reasonable choice is ancient human.


Agreed. I really don't think they could be Precursor because if Forerunner structures could stand the test of time, I'm pretty sure Precursor structures would too. And if it was Precursor it would be in an odd design.

Also, perhaps the Forerunners brought a couple of tribes on Delta Halo to see how they would react to the ring? The ruins are pretty similar.

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Yeah, they're human-made.

  • 01.14.2011 3:22 PM PDT

To me, the ruins seemed to be pretty traditional looking. As if they were built out of early materials like wood and brick. Not very "ancient advanced human"-ish. of course, it could be post-devolution human or something, but it does bridge the link to why humans in the east built structures with similar designs. Maybe it was a long0lost Japanese Colony?

It seems like some race of giants built it because the steps were huge even for the SPARTAN. So unless ancient humanity was a race of 9-foot tall people, it just doesn't add up. (the 9-foot thing may account for Goliath being so huge in David and Goliath :P)

  • 01.14.2011 3:25 PM PDT

"Shall we let the Flood consume our holy city? Turn High Charity into another of their wretched hives? No enemy has ever withstood our might. The Flood, too, shall fail."

-Prophet of Truth.


Posted by: Gruntpocalypto
To me, the ruins seemed to be pretty traditional looking. As if they were built out of early materials like wood and brick. Not very "ancient advanced human"-ish. of course, it could be post-devolution human or something, but it does bridge the link to why humans in the east built structures with similar designs. Maybe it was a long0lost Japanese Colony?

It seems like some race of giants built it because the steps were huge even for the SPARTAN. So unless ancient humanity was a race of 9-foot tall people, it just doesn't add up. (the 9-foot thing may account for Goliath
being so huge in David and Goliath :P)


There were 6 variations of Humanity. Perhaps this was one of them?

[Edited on 01.15.2011 9:21 AM PST]

  • 01.14.2011 10:45 PM PDT
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"Time was your ally human. But now it has abandoned you. The Forerunners....have returned. And this tomb... is now yours". - The Didact


Posted by: CHAZPWNS1
I blaim the Japanese anime artists for it. They are used to taking Western things and making them look Japanese.

Personally, I think Legends was nothing more than a terrible joke and I don't think any of it should be considered canon. For all I care, those ruins don't exist, the planet doesn't exist and those ODSTs never landed there.


*facenuke*

Those babysitter are built by ancient humans,are you so ignorant.Any problem with the fact that they look like japanese?

  • 01.15.2011 5:01 AM PDT

"Shall we let the Flood consume our holy city? Turn High Charity into another of their wretched hives? No enemy has ever withstood our might. The Flood, too, shall fail."

-Prophet of Truth.

I also think that either the Forerunners brought some of the Human buildings onto their rings to study, or that they saved some and let them live on the ring to see how the ring would affect them.

  • 01.15.2011 9:22 AM PDT


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Posted by: TallestSpark
In the first episode of Legends, the ODST's land on the planet to find ruins, presumed to be Precursor. I don't remember the planet's name, but I think it is called Henoi or something.

Anyways, now that we know that humanity was once an INTERSTELLAR empire thousands of years, and eventually lost the war against the Forerunners, I'm thinking maybe those were very old Human ruins from a long lost battle?

This would explain the similar architecture, and the fact that there are pipes with dials, much like us.


what? humanity an interstellar empire? war? when did this happen?

Read Halo cryptum. It'll explain everything.

  • 01.15.2011 10:47 AM PDT

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Posted by: TallestSpark
In the first episode of Legends, the ODST's land on the planet to find ruins, presumed to be Precursor. I don't remember the planet's name, but I think it is called Henoi or something.

Anyways, now that we know that humanity was once an INTERSTELLAR empire thousands of years, and eventually lost the war against the Forerunners, I'm thinking maybe those were very old Human ruins from a long lost battle?

This would explain the similar architecture, and the fact that there are pipes with dials, much like us.


what? humanity an interstellar empire? war? when did this happen?

Read Halo cryptum. It'll explain everything.


Explain everything? it explains the biggest 5 myestires in canon, and then produces countless more.

Every other chapter, something gets revealed that rewrites canon.

  • 01.15.2011 12:06 PM PDT


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Posted by: Spartan Mikey
Posted by: TallestSpark
In the first episode of Legends, the ODST's land on the planet to find ruins, presumed to be Precursor. I don't remember the planet's name, but I think it is called Henoi or something.

Anyways, now that we know that humanity was once an INTERSTELLAR empire thousands of years, and eventually lost the war against the Forerunners, I'm thinking maybe those were very old Human ruins from a long lost battle?

This would explain the similar architecture, and the fact that there are pipes with dials, much like us.


what? humanity an interstellar empire? war? when did this happen?

Read Halo cryptum. It'll explain everything.


Explain everything? it explains the biggest 5 myestires in canon, and then produces countless more.

Every other chapter, something gets revealed that rewrites canon.
Don't be so dramatic. Canon isn't "rewritten" every other chapter. The only big thing that Cryptum deviates from from the established canon is that the Librarian/Forerunners encounter humanity much earlier than the late stages of the Forerunner-Flood War. Cryptum reveals things that make you think "wow" and it may even reveal things that you don't like, but it doesn't "rewrite" canon. The Forerunner story was mostly a blank slate, and therefore it is impossible to screw the canon.

You want screwed canon? Go look at Halo: Reach vs. The Fall of Reach.

[Edited on 01.15.2011 12:43 PM PST]

  • 01.15.2011 12:42 PM PDT

"Shall we let the Flood consume our holy city? Turn High Charity into another of their wretched hives? No enemy has ever withstood our might. The Flood, too, shall fail."

-Prophet of Truth.

Reach vs FoR doesn't really count because Reach doesn't follow the books storyline.

  • 01.18.2011 1:14 PM PDT