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Subject: 343 Announces Halo 4 and Halo CE Remake...

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I like cheesecake.

Halo 4: I probably wouldn't buy, but...

Halo: Ce remake: So help me, if they move a rock...
They better JUST go through, and improve the graphics.

  • 01.16.2011 9:15 AM PDT

bit off topic here but wouldnt the idea of utilising spartan 3's to finish off the covenent
Covenant is finnished


No High Charity is gone, Not all of the Covenent is gone, maybe using a Spartan Three to go to the remaining colonies and finshing them off would be a good halo 4
OR
Using the arbiter to free Shanghelios from the Covenent would be good game that i would like to play

  • 01.16.2011 9:30 AM PDT


Posted by: Buzz the Fuzz
Pray to god that they wont call it "Halo 4." It just doesn't sound right.

  • 01.16.2011 9:57 AM PDT

I don't care. I really don't.


Posted by: DonVinzone1
There is SO much more space in the UNSC-Covenant War to explore...I wouldn't throw that all away and take a next step that is THAT radical if I was 343.


Yeah, I don't want to focus too much on the Human-Covenant War; we've seen blind alien vs. human taking over original sci-fis for years.
The last two Halo games focused on nothing but the Human-Covernant War with the infinitly more interseting Forerunner and Flood taking a back seat. It's called Halo, not "UNSC vs. Covenant". The Forerunner were being built into a less enigmatic, more influential race over the main trilogy. Then in ODST and Reach, it was nothing but "Aliens = bad, so shoot them just because they are alien" sort of thing that we've seen hundreds of video games do in the last few years.
I want Halo to return to it's roots; both story wise and design wise, with the Forerunner and Flood returning, properly, with the Flood terryfying not jokes, and the Forerunner more influential, and even aspects from Cryptum entering Halos 2500s timeline.
There's much more story, design and gameplay frredoms and originality from that area instead of the Human-Covenant War.

  • 01.16.2011 9:57 AM PDT

who do i need to kill for it.

  • 01.16.2011 10:29 AM PDT

dude i was about to sign off when i seen what you posted......to true my friend to true but the flood was not really everywhere they are on a ring a HALO at that so i dont see how they could have played into that idea when this REACH is before they let lose THE MASTER but anyway great post bro they do need to go back that stuff made halo what it is today.

  • 01.16.2011 10:34 AM PDT


Posted by: Venator82

Posted by: DonVinzone1
There is SO much more space in the UNSC-Covenant War to explore...I wouldn't throw that all away and take a next step that is THAT radical if I was 343.


Yeah, I don't want to focus too much on the Human-Covenant War; we've seen blind alien vs. human taking over original sci-fis for years.
The last two Halo games focused on nothing but the Human-Covernant War with the infinitly more interseting Forerunner and Flood taking a back seat. It's called Halo, not "UNSC vs. Covenant". The Forerunner were being built into a less enigmatic, more influential race over the main trilogy. Then in ODST and Reach, it was nothing but "Aliens = bad, so shoot them just because they are alien" sort of thing that we've seen hundreds of video games do in the last few years.
I want Halo to return to it's roots; both story wise and design wise, with the Forerunner and Flood returning, properly, with the Flood terryfying not jokes, and the Forerunner more influential, and even aspects from Cryptum entering Halos 2500s timeline.
There's much more story, design and gameplay frredoms and originality from that area instead of the Human-Covenant War.


No offence, but you completely read over/ignored my main point:
We, as hardcore fans and readers of the books will appreciate things like seeing "living" Forerunners and all...but the average Joe who buys the game (and mind you: there are MILLIONS of them...bet those 7.8 million people who bought Reach aren't all hardcore fans...) doesn't care about them.

It was a big deal of Bungie to incorporate Halsey in Reach. I'm glad they did, but half of the people playing the game didn't even know who she was and why she was there...People are still asking about the whole Jorge-Halsey-ma'am/mom thing...
Imagine going all the way and removing what is iconic about Halo and putting in things that maybe 25% of the Halo players know about....

In the end we want Halo to sell dont we?

As for some of the things you suggest: sure, Flood being scary again is great. Bring it on. Like I said: give me a more gritty and "hardcore" Halo (in terms of vibe, nog neccecarily gameplay). I would love that.
More mystery: PLEASE! Halo 1 and 2 were full of mystery. Halo 3 failed on that. And ODST and Reach took a completely different route and treated the Forerunners on a sidenote...which was also well done because for the average soldier the Forerunners were something they didn't even know about...
I'm all in for Forerunner mysteries.

But in the end I think its best if that is left to the books and maybe a movie, because people want to play Halo for what it is...Its sad. But its true.

And its not that I completely disagree with you mate, or want to bash you or whatever. Its just that I don't see a Forerunner focussed Halo without all Halo icons working...

  • 01.16.2011 10:48 AM PDT

I don't care. I really don't.


Posted by: DonVinzone1

Okay, yeah I did miss you're point.
But I think the problem with Halo is that people are being -blam!- retentive about the whole "HALO MUST SELL OR WE'LL DIE!!" thing.
That is what has been plagueing Halo for a while. People want the story to be friendly to the average Joe, but the average Joe couldn't give a crap about the story itself or weapons; they want multiplayer, kick-ass campaign gampelay, big guns that just shoot stuff, and cool features. The canon (warthogs, Covenant, UNSC, etc.) isn't meant for the average Joe, because if someone cares about the canon, they aren't the average Joe.
That's what game developers and publishers make a mistake in, as they try making it friendly to people who couldn't care less and jam their thumbs on the skip button before cutscenes even begin and look at the reticle more than the weapon and wouldn't notice even if it was a grey untextureed block, and in that process alienate the people who do like and can follow the canon.
If it has the name Halo, it will sell; it will. And if the story is good enough, the game will attract more into the RPG genre; that's what Halo was doing in the first one for a little while, expanding the target audience not by making the story simpler, but more complex. Then it started getting shorter and less brained.

In other words, average people couldn't care about the game story and the features; they just want to play the game for fun. So 343i can run with it as long as they keep it Halo in spirit.

OT: Depends if it's "for the average Joe" or actually makes sense, for Halo 4.
CE: Graphics and engine overhaul; if they're going to piss people off in the first place, may as well go the whole mile. But don't touch the vehicle physics.

[Edited on 01.16.2011 11:16 AM PST]

  • 01.16.2011 11:07 AM PDT

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  • 01.16.2011 11:18 AM PDT

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  • 01.16.2011 11:21 AM PDT
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I think that the halo CE remake is just a bad idea cause the game that is CE is so iconic as the foundation that if you gave it a face lift it would just ruin the whole authenticity of the game.

As for Halo 4 i think that would be a good idea as long as its not another adventure of the chief destroying another ring but rather his quest and struggles to find his way back to human civilization

  • 01.16.2011 12:11 PM PDT


Posted by: Sector Z 157
If a Halo 4, pause and consider how it might turn out.

If CE remake, cry and sob. A remake isn't needed! the game is only 10 years old and new graphics and engine would ruin a great game. Let sleeping dogs lie.

Even though CE dosent need a remake, if 343 did it what if it was a complete success and it just made CE better tell me that

  • 01.16.2011 12:28 PM PDT

Jizz my pants

  • 01.16.2011 12:31 PM PDT


Posted by: JDYeash937 MkII
Posted by: Sector Z 157
If a Halo 4, pause and consider how it might turn out.

If CE remake, cry and sob. A remake isn't needed! the game is only 10 years old and new graphics and engine would ruin a great game. Let sleeping dogs lie.
How could an improved Graphics and Physics engine ruin the game? Surely only changing the story would ruin it right?

I would love to see the PoA physically be damaged at the start, instead of having blue blobs slap it in the side and disappear.
If they kept every scripted event and story detail the exact same, and just redid the engine, then I don't see how that could ever be bad.
What if they also added the whole vehicle/weapon arsenal, along with the other races?

  • 01.16.2011 1:00 PM PDT


Posted by: MR PUFFYPANTS V
bit off topic here but wouldnt the idea of utilising spartan 3's to finish off the covenent
Covenant is finnished


No High Charity is gone, Not all of the Covenent is gone, maybe using a Spartan Three to go to the remaining colonies and finshing them off would be a good halo 4
OR
Using the arbiter to free Shanghelios from the Covenent would be good game that i would like to play
I'm pretty sure that liberating Sangheilios would have been done by the end of Halo 3.

  • 01.16.2011 1:02 PM PDT

Depends on what type of game it is.

I'm burned out on Halo FPSs, but if they took a different approach I'd be pretty psyched.

  • 01.16.2011 1:49 PM PDT
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If Halo 4 means the Great Schism, and there are no humans affiliated with it, then I would be happy at the thought, and annoyed at the name.

Remaking Halo: CE or Halo 2 would only work if they did it with extreme care, only polishing the graphics and adding a few achievements. It is likely however, that they would alter it to be more like Halo: Reach and I would thus, also, be disappointed.

  • 01.16.2011 1:53 PM PDT


Posted by: CmdrScott1701
If Halo 4 means the Great Schism, and there are no humans affiliated with it, then I would be happy at the thought, and annoyed at the name.
It would still be nice to see Chief and a few Marines as a reference. Of course, only for a short segment would be acceptable.

Remaking Halo: CE or Halo 2 would only work if they did it with extreme care, only polishing the graphics and adding a few achievements. It is likely however, that they would alter it to be more like Halo: Reach and I would thus, also, be disappointed. I would like to see it with the more fleshed-out Covenant, though. Nothing that would be overly-drastic, or story changing.

  • 01.16.2011 1:56 PM PDT

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Posted by: JDYeash937 MkII

If they kept every scripted event and story detail the exact same, and just redid the engine, then I don't see how that could ever be bad.


I think he's afraid they'd completely abort that logical frame of mind and reconstruct everything which could be pretty scary and not in that Dead Space kind of way...

  • 01.16.2011 2:15 PM PDT
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H4? Good, prequels are for fools. Hopefully they'll grow a brain and take the haloverse in an awesome new direction, what with the supporting cast dead and buried.

Remake? If it's both cheap and updated, sure, I just might bite. Probably not, but maybe.

  • 01.16.2011 2:20 PM PDT

If the only thing being changed in the remake were graphics and adding achievements I'd be ok with that. And if a Halo 4 was announced... I probably wont know until then

  • 01.16.2011 7:28 PM PDT

I would be happy to see a Halo 4 due to the fact it would completely finish the story. However, in my opinion, it should be more like halo 3, for instance i hate the armory and enjoyed halo 3's achievement system. But a Halo CE remake would be going to far

  • 01.16.2011 8:02 PM PDT

Posted by: RayAllen2034
I would be happy to see a Halo 4 due to the fact it would completely finish the story. However, in my opinion, it should be more like halo 3, for instance i hate the armory and enjoyed halo 3's achievement system. But a Halo CE remake would be going to far


So sure that the 4th game will be the last? It can go on for another 2 more game's, that's just milking the series, I know, but it could happen.

  • 01.16.2011 8:04 PM PDT


Posted by: Sector Z 157
If a Halo 4, pause and consider how it might turn out.

If CE remake, cry and sob. A remake isn't needed! the game is only 10 years old and new graphics and engine would ruin a great game. Let sleeping dogs lie.
People want to play halo ce online

  • 01.16.2011 10:29 PM PDT

Posted by: MajorPayne452

Posted by: Sector Z 157
If a Halo 4, pause and consider how it might turn out.

If CE remake, cry and sob. A remake isn't needed! the game is only 10 years old and new graphics and engine would ruin a great game. Let sleeping dogs lie.
People want to play halo ce online


Personally, Halo: CE online wouldn't be all that great, all you have is a 60 round AR, and an overpowered fully automatic pistol, along with a Plasma Pistol and Plasma Rifle, not much variety.

  • 01.16.2011 10:33 PM PDT