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Subject: 343 Announces Halo 4 and Halo CE Remake...

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Posted by: Sector Z 157
If a Halo 4, pause and consider how it might turn out.

If CE remake, cry and sob. A remake isn't needed! the game is only 10 years old and new graphics and engine would ruin a great game. Let sleeping dogs lie.

He has a point.. AA's would ruin it.. Íf they are gonna remake it, they must only remake it graphicly, and put some more variation in guns. (Altough limited) The campaign was perfect. Because of the large spaces, it was able to flank deep, and use superior tactics that decided the fate of living or dieing. 4 Player co-op is something they should do though.

  • 01.16.2011 11:49 PM PDT

Posted by: Terror Q
Posted by: Sector Z 157
If a Halo 4, pause and consider how it might turn out.

If CE remake, cry and sob. A remake isn't needed! the game is only 10 years old and new graphics and engine would ruin a great game. Let sleeping dogs lie.

He has a point.. AA's would ruin it.. Íf they are gonna remake it, they must only remake it graphicly, and put some more variation in guns. (Altough limited) The campaign was perfect. Because of the large spaces, it was able to flank deep, and use superior tactics that decided the fate of living or dieing. 4 Player co-op is something they should do though.


No AA's would be in it, aside from Sprint or Evade of course, and if you read the book "The Flood" It shows John dual wielding SMG's, most likely a return of them, wouldn't you agree?

  • 01.17.2011 12:05 AM PDT


Posted by: Venator82

Posted by: DonVinzone1

Okay, yeah I did miss you're point.
But I think the problem with Halo is that people are being -blam!- retentive about the whole "HALO MUST SELL OR WE'LL DIE!!" thing.
That is what has been plagueing Halo for a while. People want the story to be friendly to the average Joe, but the average Joe couldn't give a crap about the story itself or weapons; they want multiplayer, kick-ass campaign gampelay, big guns that just shoot stuff, and cool features. The canon (warthogs, Covenant, UNSC, etc.) isn't meant for the average Joe, because if someone cares about the canon, they aren't the average Joe.
That's what game developers and publishers make a mistake in, as they try making it friendly to people who couldn't care less and jam their thumbs on the skip button before cutscenes even begin and look at the reticle more than the weapon and wouldn't notice even if it was a grey untextureed block, and in that process alienate the people who do like and can follow the canon.
If it has the name Halo, it will sell; it will. And if the story is good enough, the game will attract more into the RPG genre; that's what Halo was doing in the first one for a little while, expanding the target audience not by making the story simpler, but more complex. Then it started getting shorter and less brained.

In other words, average people couldn't care about the game story and the features; they just want to play the game for fun. So 343i can run with it as long as they keep it Halo in spirit.

OT: Depends if it's "for the average Joe" or actually makes sense, for Halo 4.
CE: Graphics and engine overhaul; if they're going to piss people off in the first place, may as well go the whole mile. But don't touch the vehicle physics.


Lets agree to (partly) disagree my friend ;)

  • 01.17.2011 1:24 AM PDT

Actually, a game with master chief alone with cortana floating in space. Then they somehow run into a mysterious planet Onyx or something then his mission ends up something like discovering, finding, then rescuing halsey and spartans. Don't know how that would work out though. Would be awesome like fighting huge sentinel everywhere. That would be like hiding from and attacking numerous hunters. Also cool. Again, purely just putting something out there. Havent read ghosts of onyx but planning on very soon. Sorry for the jumbledness of my thoughts. Any thoughts of you own on this?

  • 01.17.2011 1:38 AM PDT

i would like a halo:ce remake with same grapchics...but with achievements :) and.. ummmmm new maps and stuff.*whispers* gameeescorreee

  • 01.17.2011 5:38 AM PDT

dude...people love the chief. he is why halo is so popular....

  • 01.17.2011 5:45 AM PDT

Posted by: mojeda101
No AA's would be in it, aside from Sprint or Evade of course, and if you read the book "The Flood" It shows John dual wielding SMG's, most likely a return of them, wouldn't you agree?


The original cover of the Flood had Chief with a shotgun. The new one looks like he's got Mark VI on.

Old

New

Unless, they changed the cover to match something that they would be putting in the game?

  • 01.17.2011 7:02 AM PDT

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Well Frankie said that they would most likely make a Halo 4 to end Master Chiefs story, and then branch off to another Canon mystery.
Posted by: opogjijijp
Be a bit disappointed. How much so would depend on what they were doing with Halo 4

  • 01.17.2011 7:26 AM PDT

Master Chief is Halo (cuz i think halo is a pretty cool guy... just kidding :P), he is the main reason why the franchise is so popular.

That's why I don't like the new direction the franchise (or at least Bungie) is heading, where everything is group work. It doesn't feels epic when compared to the Chief killing anyone or anything that stepped in his way.

Yes, I'm looking forward to Halo 4, to continue his story. I know that many people would be "disappointed", but please, avoid writing stuff like "I wouldn't buy it", that's a lie, you and I know it.

  • 01.17.2011 8:14 AM PDT

Halo 4: Depends. I don't want them to continue Chief's story. Its finished perfectly.
But if Halo 4 means another big entry in the series I'm fine with that.


He became a hero without praise, stuck on some alien planet, with a corrupting A.I. . Oh, and did I mention that on the planet, he will probably face flood, sentinels, and finally a living forerunner. Oh yeah, and an alien who was once assigned to kill him took all the praise. Guitarmaster X7 could make a less offensive ending to the chief.

Halo CE remake: Also depends. If its just a cosmetic overhaul + better AI: awesome.
If they decide to "improve" gameplay: hmmmmmmmmm meh.
Also: they would need to overhaul the multiplayer. Its way too basic for todays standard. They could better leave it out and take Halo 2's multiplayer and slightly adjust that one.


It would be just a graphics overhaul. And Halo CE multiplayer was far better than 2's. *remembers bxb* If they made a cosmetic overhaul to 1, that was similar to two, I wouldn't mind but thats as close as I want those two guys to get.

  • 01.17.2011 10:00 AM PDT

I would certainly be excited for Halo 4. However, in terms of a Halo 1 remake, I would be less interested. If 343 Industries was to remake Halo 1, it would have to follow Bungie's design obsessively. Also, perhaps a stronger focus on the Single-Player narrative would be more beneficial.

  • 01.17.2011 11:04 AM PDT

I would love a Combat Evolved remake.

I only think the multiplayer needs an overhall though. Maybe make a Combat Evolved multiplayer disc? Make the gameplay smoother and add alternate buttons layouts as well as sensitivity option. Im a fan of simple graphics,please leave the graphics be.

  • 01.17.2011 11:28 AM PDT


Posted by: CabooseRvb509
Halo 4: Depends. I don't want them to continue Chief's story. Its finished perfectly.
But if Halo 4 means another big entry in the series I'm fine with that.


He became a hero without praise, stuck on some alien planet, with a corrupting A.I. . Oh, and did I mention that on the planet, he will probably face flood, sentinels, and finally a living forerunner. Oh yeah, and an alien who was once assigned to kill him took all the praise. Guitarmaster X7 could make a less offensive ending to the chief.


Chief finally got his rest. A tragic end yes, but thats the tragedy of being a Spartan.
Also: we don't know what is on that planet. We don't know if there is anything alive on it, let alone there being living Forerunners.
With all respect: that is nothing more but speculation by fans that is regarded as "canon" for some reason (as in being true).
Also: Arby didn't receive all the praise.


Halo CE remake: Also depends. If its just a cosmetic overhaul + better AI: awesome.
If they decide to "improve" gameplay: hmmmmmmmmm meh.
Also: they would need to overhaul the multiplayer. Its way too basic for todays standard. They could better leave it out and take Halo 2's multiplayer and slightly adjust that one.


It would be just a graphics overhaul. And Halo CE multiplayer was far better than 2's. *remembers bxb* If they made a cosmetic overhaul to 1, that was similar to two, I wouldn't mind but thats as close as I want those two guys to get.


CE's multiplayer wasn't better than Halo 2's. No, no debate possible with me about that. Halo CE only had a better campaign than Halo 2, not a better multiplayer.

  • 01.17.2011 11:42 AM PDT

Halo is one of the most important part of my life.


Posted by: playerassg2
ce remake would be cool as long as they change nothing but the graphics.


I agree... we dont need another Reach, at least not for now...

For Halo 4 i just want to now where on the canon will took place...

  • 01.17.2011 1:04 PM PDT

"all you guys did was hide like little girls"
"I'm ok with that."

Let me first point out the main reasons why the First Halo was so successful:
-Awesome looking game coming out on a brand new console.
-It's a story of a super soldier fighting aliens, thus putting you in the chiefs boots and in essence giving you your own little momentary boost in confidence. Who wouldn't love to be the bad ass that causes MARINES to stop and go "whoa".
-The story itself is flawless. Screw landing on some moon or rock in the middle of no where in the galaxy, your landing on a GIANT FRIGGIN ring floating in space. When you look up in the game, you see the horizon of the Ring extending up and over you. That gives you a really big "awe" factor.
-MULTIPLAYER MULTIPLAYER MULTIPLAYER MULTIPLAYER
MULTIPLAYER!!!!!!!!!!


Now, update that awesomeness, throw in a forge mode and theatre mode, and support the game for XBox Live, and what do you have?

ONLY A GAME THAT HAS THE BEST GODDAMNED CHANCE AT BEING THE BEST GODDAMNED GAME EVER.

And I'm no Bungie fanboy, trust me, just see for your self. But I also don't hate them or think they screwed up Halo with Reach, I think they just lost sight of things around the time when they released the mythic map pack for Halo 3. That's when I really noticed them getting stupid over stuff. And then with the release of Reach, and how it's multiplayer doesn't stick true to what Halo fans are used to since Halo 2, well is it any wonder why people are excited for 343 to do something incredible.

And for the record, Ensemble did a decent job with Halo Wars, it wasn't the Halo your used to because it wasn't a FPS, but it still felt VERY Halo to me. So that gives me hope for another software studio to pick up Halo and do a good job.

I want a CE remake, and so do thousands of people, if not millions.
I want a Halo game like we ALL remember.
I want Reach's Forge, 3's theatre system, 2's campaign, and 1's multiplayer.

-Bane iZ Missing

  • 01.17.2011 1:10 PM PDT

Posted by: xXII Bane IIXx
Let me first point out the main reasons why the First Halo was so successful:
-Awesome looking game coming out on a brand new console.
-It's a story of a super soldier fighting aliens, thus putting you in the chiefs boots and in essence giving you your own little momentary boost in confidence. Who wouldn't love to be the bad ass that causes MARINES to stop and go "whoa".
-The story itself is flawless. Screw landing on some moon or rock in the middle of no where in the galaxy, your landing on a GIANT FRIGGIN ring floating in space. When you look up in the game, you see the horizon of the Ring extending up and over you. That gives you a really big "awe" factor.
-MULTIPLAYER MULTIPLAYER MULTIPLAYER MULTIPLAYER
MULTIPLAYER!!!!!!!!!!


Now, update that awesomeness, throw in a forge mode and theatre mode, and support the game for XBox Live, and what do you have?

ONLY A GAME THAT HAS THE BEST GODDAMNED CHANCE AT BEING THE BEST GODDAMNED GAME EVER.

And I'm no Bungie fanboy, trust me, just see for your self. But I also don't hate them or think they screwed up Halo with Reach, I think they just lost sight of things around the time when they released the mythic map pack for Halo 3. That's when I really noticed them getting stupid over stuff. And then with the release of Reach, and how it's multiplayer doesn't stick true to what Halo fans are used to since Halo 2, well is it any wonder why people are excited for 343 to do something incredible.

And for the record, Ensemble did a decent job with Halo Wars, it wasn't the Halo your used to because it wasn't a FPS, but it still felt VERY Halo to me. So that gives me hope for another software studio to pick up Halo and do a good job.

I want a CE remake, and so do thousands of people, if not millions.
I want a Halo game like we ALL remember.
I want Reach's Forge, 3's theatre system, 2's campaign, and 1's multiplayer.

-Bane iZ Missing


It might be biased on the multiplayer and Campaign thing, I think it should switch, Halo: CE's campaign and Halo 2's multiplayer, Halo 2's multiplayer is the reason Halo, Call of duty and such is there, no one else had such a first time fun experience.

  • 01.17.2011 2:29 PM PDT

What spectagon are you in?

It's quite likely that they will eventually announce a Halo 4. I would be quite happy if they announced a Halo:CE remake.

  • 01.17.2011 3:09 PM PDT

Halo is one of the best series in the bizz, and with microsoft having the rights for the series they will most likely make a few other games.

i reallt hope they make a halo 4. with the storie of the unsc and the elites teaming up again to fight the remaining covenant who have found a forerunner "shield world" with some remaining survivors of the forerunner/flood war. so it is your task tot defeat the covenant and retrieve/defeat the survivors. of course with a bit of help of the Chief and cortana.

[Edited on 01.17.2011 3:56 PM PST]

  • 01.17.2011 3:54 PM PDT

Multi-trillionaire modern cowboy.

That's right.

Posted by: mojeda101
Posted by: Terror Q
Posted by: Sector Z 157
If a Halo 4, pause and consider how it might turn out.

If CE remake, cry and sob. A remake isn't needed! the game is only 10 years old and new graphics and engine would ruin a great game. Let sleeping dogs lie.

He has a point.. AA's would ruin it.. Íf they are gonna remake it, they must only remake it graphicly, and put some more variation in guns. (Altough limited) The campaign was perfect. Because of the large spaces, it was able to flank deep, and use superior tactics that decided the fate of living or dieing. 4 Player co-op is something they should do though.


No AA's would be in it, aside from Sprint or Evade of course, and if you read the book "The Flood" It shows John dual wielding SMG's, most likely a return of them, wouldn't you agree?


Yeah, I hope so. I donno 'bout Sprint and Evade though. Their my favorite AA's, but sprinting is (in my opinion) not something that fit's with Halo. And not at all if some people can, and some don't. But I can't change 343, so I hope that they'll succeed in CEII.

I do think we shouldn't expect much.

  • 01.17.2011 4:31 PM PDT

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For me a Halo 1 remake achieves nothing. If it was a literal remake new players would find it a bit boring (as there would be no Scarabs, Falcons, space battles, armor abilities etc.) but if they decided to add new content to it to modernise it then the more loyal fans would not be happy either. I would prefer they leave Halo 1 alone and focus on new games and new storylines.

  • 01.17.2011 4:47 PM PDT

Multi-trillionaire modern cowboy.

That's right.

Posted by: mojeda101
Posted by: xXII Bane IIXx
Let me first point out the main reasons why the First Halo was so successful:
-Awesome looking game coming out on a brand new console.
-It's a story of a super soldier fighting aliens, thus putting you in the chiefs boots and in essence giving you your own little momentary boost in confidence. Who wouldn't love to be the bad ass that causes MARINES to stop and go "whoa".
-The story itself is flawless. Screw landing on some moon or rock in the middle of no where in the galaxy, your landing on a GIANT FRIGGIN ring floating in space. When you look up in the game, you see the horizon of the Ring extending up and over you. That gives you a really big "awe" factor.
-MULTIPLAYER MULTIPLAYER MULTIPLAYER MULTIPLAYER
MULTIPLAYER!!!!!!!!!!


Now, update that awesomeness, throw in a forge mode and theatre mode, and support the game for XBox Live, and what do you have?

ONLY A GAME THAT HAS THE BEST GODDAMNED CHANCE AT BEING THE BEST GODDAMNED GAME EVER.

And I'm no Bungie fanboy, trust me, just see for your self. But I also don't hate them or think they screwed up Halo with Reach, I think they just lost sight of things around the time when they released the mythic map pack for Halo 3. That's when I really noticed them getting stupid over stuff. And then with the release of Reach, and how it's multiplayer doesn't stick true to what Halo fans are used to since Halo 2, well is it any wonder why people are excited for 343 to do something incredible.

And for the record, Ensemble did a decent job with Halo Wars, it wasn't the Halo your used to because it wasn't a FPS, but it still felt VERY Halo to me. So that gives me hope for another software studio to pick up Halo and do a good job.

I want a CE remake, and so do thousands of people, if not millions.
I want a Halo game like we ALL remember.
I want Reach's Forge, 3's theatre system, 2's campaign, and 1's multiplayer.

-Bane iZ Missing


It might be biased on the multiplayer and Campaign thing, I think it should switch, Halo: CE's campaign and Halo 2's multiplayer, Halo 2's multiplayer is the reason Halo, Call of duty and such is there, no one else had such a first time fun experience.


Agree. HCE Campaign was magnificant. And Halo 2's MP was the best ever created (opinion). And the storyline of HCE actually was pretty cool.
You were stranded. On a gaint ring. With a lot of aliens. Ánd zombies. Lucky you, you're -blam!-ing badass, so they won't touch you. Let's save earth(:

H2's campaign was different than CE's, but not less cool. It's hard to say which one is better. I personnally liked the arbiter missions, The Arbiter, and Uprising. And the Gravemind and Delta Halo with MC.
They also did a great job with Zealots. They showed their excellent skill in combat, even though they weren't better shielded as a simple Major Domo!
Also the SP maps were sick. Everything was there even out of the maps.

Last but not least, the soundtracks.. Damn! Does anyone remember the chapter "Off the rock, through the bushes, nothing but jackal" on Delta Halo? Love it...
Btw, linky to the best soundtrack ever created:
In Amber Clad

Thank you guys. I've let myself go a little(:

  • 01.17.2011 4:48 PM PDT

Multi-trillionaire modern cowboy.

That's right.

Posted by: flamedude
For me a Halo 1 remake achieves nothing. If it was a literal remake new players would find it a bit boring (as there would be no Scarabs, Falcons, space battles, armor abilities etc.) but if they decided to add new content to it to modernise it then the more loyal fans would not be happy either. I would prefer they leave Halo 1 alone and focus on new games and new storylines.


Indeed.
This dude is genious.

  • 01.17.2011 4:50 PM PDT

Halo 4 + CE Remake = =D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 01.17.2011 4:55 PM PDT