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Subject: Why Keep the Flood?
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i dunno about that I just said lets have some Bungie Troopers go in and kill em cause in Halo 1 they are excruciatingly(<---Good day for me. I said a big word!!) hard since they come in what seems like by the thousands and just go swinging their arms at you. I don't have Halo 2 seeing as I don't own Xbox and only the 360 which I dont get till christmas and its a core so it wont be able to play halo 2 but back to the topic even with the new AI for the Flood they are sttill annoying. I say terminate teh flood and be done with it. If Forerunner Technology is better than Covenant Technology why didn't they just kill them off(<---- crap I just asked a newbie question)

  • 12.03.2005 3:06 AM PDT
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I think you are talking about the first level as the Arbiter. I'm pretty sure the level is "The Heretic" Well that research facility was built when the forerunners first discovered the Flood, before the forerunners built the Halos.

  • 12.03.2005 4:49 AM PDT

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Well my big question comes from when Sparky says, "I'm glad that some of the reproduced". Why on Earth (figure of speech) would the moderator of the installation what a destructive force like the Flood to continue to breed? It was because of the Flood that the Forerunners nuked themselves in order to somewhat contain it. Why would they keep them if they were afraid that they would be unable to contain them? That is what I am trying to get at....What could the Flood possibly offer the Forerunners that would cause them to think, "Hey maybe we should study these little buggers, instead of wipe them completely out of the galaxy!" There had to be something there that made the Forerunners put their safety on hold and want to study them more closely. Then they probably realized that things were getting out of hand, and as Sparky says they activate the HALOS in a last ditch effort. That's what I am curious about. ~B.B.

  • 12.03.2005 4:58 AM PDT
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They drive into your nervous system and make you one of them... why WOULDN'T you want to study that? They can manipulate an entire body to do their will... I think that's reason enough.

-TGP-

  • 12.03.2005 5:04 AM PDT
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According to the books, after an AI construct is in use for a long time, say 15-20 years, the consruct will get a little "Quirky" Like weird attitude behaviors. And in the book the chief asked how long the minitor has worked on the halo and his answer was about 20,000 years so the chief believed that the monitor could be insane. So maybe it was his insanity talking about wanting the flood to reproduce.

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  • 12.03.2005 12:09 PM PDT
Subject: Discussion Topic about the Flood

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Alright, first I should say that I am not sure where exactly to post this thread, so if a moderator deems it to be moved, but all means move it to the proper place.

Now, something that has been bothering me about some of the things that have been taking place in the HALO1/HALO2 plot lines begin back in HALO1. These of course deal with the Flood, which has been the one constant enemy in both games. What makes me wonder about the Flood is something that 343 Guilty Spark says in the level, The Library, more specific in the area "But I don't want to ride the elevator". Sparky informs the MC that:

"The installation was specifically built to study and contain the Flood. Their survival as a race was dependent upon it. I am grateful to see that some of them survived to reproduce."

This begs the question for me. If the forerunners were so afraid of the Flood, enough to constuct 7 HALOS, and then obliderate themselves along with any life for 100 million lightyears in order to kill any food for the Flood, then why were they being kept in stasis and being studied? In HALO2, Gravemind again reiterates that what the forerunners did was on purpose by saying:

Those who built this place knew what they wrought; do not mistake their intent or all will perish as they did before.

My question still remains why would the Forerunners go through the trouble of building the HALOS in order to contain the Flood, where it actually looks like they kept them around in stasis. What could have the Flood possibly given the Forerunners for them to keep them alive?

I am curious to hear everyone's thoughts on this, and if you have anything more to add, by all means contribute. I'm just trying to get some things clear, and I thought it would be an interesting discussion compared to all the HALO3/ Pimps at Sea posts that have been going on.
Sincerely,
B.B.


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  • 12.03.2005 3:02 AM PDT
Subject: Why Keep the Flood?
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i think we can accept that the forerunners wanted to study the flood. besides, if the books aid ai constructs get quirky, they probably werent talkign about precise forerunner engineering, probably more talking about human-made constructs like cortana. but yah, who wouldnt want to study an organism that can gain complete control of the nervous/muscular/bleh systems of almost any other organism.

besides, even if 343 GS was quirky, that still wouldn't explain why the forerunners would build instalations to house the flood. the forerunners obviously wanted study material.

  • 12.03.2005 6:06 PM PDT
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the flood are the ultiamte race. your looking at it the wrong way. the forunners are obviously hte greatest thing to have ever graced this universe, as their monoliths stand as a testament. sure, they nuked themselves... but as to what cost? you say they are dead, but there work remains... the halos, 343, the flood, the... but im getting ahead of myself.

what was actually lost in the activation of the rings?

and why isnt it still here?

  • 12.03.2005 7:20 PM PDT

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Posted by: Achronos
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Right, the AI question from quoting the book refers to the Human constructs of AI, such as Cortana, and her sister. These AI become quirky because they become too bloated down by their own increased knowledge, and pretty much supernova and collapse upon themselves.
I understand that studying the Flood would be an interesting topic. You're right they have the interesting ability to mutate and harness the biomass of other things...humans, covenant, etc. But where my question lies is what happened that made the Forerunners go from, "Hey let's study these buggers" to "Holy Crap! We'd better obliderate all life within 100 million lightyears in order to contain them". Why not destroy the Flood instead of study it. You would figure that the Forerunners had more then enough oppertunity since I'm sure it didn't take 6 days to construct the HALOS and then rest on the 7th day. The HALOS are only "fortress worlds" but why aren't they graveyards? The Forerunners obviously wanted to keep the Flood alive and around, but I'm trying to figure out what possible positive incentive they had to do that. Any Ideas? Thanks for contributing so far. ~B.B.

  • 12.03.2005 9:35 PM PDT