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Subject: What do you think about Halo: Reach?

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Some of you may remember me in this forum from a long ago. Of course, the last time I was here, I came as a fanboy of Halo 3. But now that Halo: Reach is out, I now realize why you guys stay true to Halo: CE. My favorite Halo game so far is still Halo 3. But I just can't stand Halo: Reach. If you go into the Halo: Reach forums, you'll see that fanboys have gone rampant there. But anyways, I'm curious about what you guys think of Halo: Reach.

  • 01.18.2011 7:10 PM PDT
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For me it's about fan service. Great service for those who like Live and the multiplayer stuff. And a great effort in terms of campaign to include all the best things from the last 3.5. They really tried, but, for an old Campaign guy, it felt detached and non-epic. Disable this gun and then enable that gun...eh. Might be realistic, but, is not the stuff of CE.

  • 01.18.2011 7:24 PM PDT
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R.I.P. Halo 2
11/9/04 - 4/15/10

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Reach multiplayer is definitely on the bottom for me. I can't really decide between Halo 1, 2 or 3 for my favorite multiplayer game of all time, but Reach can't touch them. I'd even put CoD4, Battlefield Bad Company 2 and maybe even Black Ops above it.

As can be seen by my service record, I don't play Reach online like I played Halo 2 or 3 online. It's not bad, it just lacks the wow factor that the previous 3 Halo games had for me.


[Edited on 01.18.2011 8:47 PM PST]

  • 01.18.2011 8:44 PM PDT

Thoroughly disappointed in pretty much every way possible.

-The AI operates at the extremes of Godlike and Vegetable.
-So much doesn't make any sense. Why were Spartans sent to investigate Marines missing? How did Carter get injured inside a perfectly intact Pelican; And for -blam!-s sake, how did he stay flying when ever other Pelican EVER get shot down almost instantly!? Why is Emile not using his training and equipment? Why didn't the PoA use its point defenses? The list goes on and on.
-Campaign is dull and unexciting. The "crumbling city" was more or less abandoned by both sides. The only "Wow!" moment for me is when the cruisers start glassing New Alexandria. No huge battles. Extremely short Scorpion sequence. And we never get a sense of scale or context outside the glassing and TotS; no fleet battles, only one ground clash. We don't actually get to see Reach fall.
-Campaign destroyed pre-existing canon. It essentially turned Fall of Reach, First Strike, and to a lesser extent, Ghosts of Onyx, into expensive fanfiction. And I want my money back.
-Firefight matchmaking is -blam!-. On Heroic enemies are far too difficult. It just isn't fun to fight Skirmishers or Brutes when one or two of them can destroy even a competent player who does nothing wrong. Hell, they aren't fun to fight period.
-Multiplayer maps are absolutely garbage, and there aren't even many of them. They spend all their time and effort on making it pretty instead of designing for gameplay.
-Multiplayer is still focused on controlling the power weapons, instead of using what you have.
-Inconsistency, etc.
--blam!- ARMOR LOCK

For a game that they supposedly made to showcase what happened with Reach, and "for the fans", they sure screwed up with that last part.

[Edited on 01.18.2011 11:51 PM PST]

  • 01.18.2011 11:48 PM PDT

Multiplayer is fine. The Campaign however to me wasn't on par with what I thought was going to happen. I would've liked to have seen more of the Spartans falling to save reach than just the ones in the noble group itself.

  • 01.19.2011 6:40 AM PDT

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I was really disappointed about the Campaign lots of canon breaches etc, it was short, it had boring characters and lack of scale.

Multiplayer feels more like a second job to grind for credits, custom games are dead and the maps sucks big time. Weapon balance is a joke all I see is the DMR and the Covie weapons are underpowered.

But it´s still Halo and I will stick around for next big Halo game like always.

That´s my two cents.

  • 01.19.2011 11:22 AM PDT

Hello! Feel free to some Cobbler as this ODST stares at you.

Play Halo 3 then go play Reach. Two things you notice: BR is overpowered, along with the grenades. The grenades in Halo 3 were insane. In Reach, they have a longer fuse so they are easier to dodge.

But other than that it doesn't have the fun factor of the other Halos. I like it, but it doesn't feel like Halo. I feel like ODST had better gameplay.

And yes, I changed and adapted.

Overall: Good game, though there are MUCH better ones.

  • 01.21.2011 8:27 PM PDT

Multiplayer is well built but a little hit and miss on the execution; most of the default map/gameplay combinations in MM are absolutely horrible, and most of the official maps are absolutely horrible. Gameplay usually winds up being okay with the occasional spike of awesome. Custom games with cool people and good custom maps (which are often vastly superior to Bungie's maps) generally increase the rate of awesomeness spikes and overall gameplay quality to being pretty good.
Ultimately, the multiplayer is very good if you actively seek out the goodness, and I like playing some of it when I'm home from school.



Campaign? The plot is internally nonsensical; the timings of things leave a ton of gaping logic holes even without taking the other canon into consideration. The characters have horrifically little development for a story which, unlike most other Halo games, is character-driven. There are still arbitrary barriers being substituted in for careful geometry design. The enemy AI is a massive improvement on Halo 3's, but unfortunately this is slightly squandered because the weapon design and balancing often forces you to fight Halo 2-noob-combo-style. The allied AI is the worst in any game I've ever played. The main writing is usually lackluster, and the non-scripted dialogue for some reason incorporates "tangos" all the time (and misuses it in places). The admitedly well-written data pads don't seem to serve any interesting function in the canon; unlike the Halo 3 terminals or ODST audio logs, they don't strike me as spiritually welcome or meaningful in the story, but rather seem like an attempt to shoehorn in Marathonishness, or something.
I'm probably going to take a lot of crap for this, but here's my take on LW: it's one of the best ideas Bungie had for Reach, but its execution felt too contrived for it to work for me. I finished the game convinced that N6's demise had more to do with the RtB-gods than the Covenant, and the cinematic at the end was trying much too hard to be epic. I can definitely see where Yahtzee was coming from when he accused Reach's plot of being a "who can die the noblest death" competition between the characters. Yet all the cutscene combat really accomplished was taking the privilege of actually playing out N6's death away from the player. And those HUD cracks? Why are they there? My HUD didn't crack on all the other times I died; the effort to make this death "special" in some way makes it feel yet more like an overly scripted sequence, especially since those cracks can appear when you aren't being shot in the face.

I guess I would say Reach's campaign is decent as far as games in general go, but I pretty much shelved it after my Legendary playthrough. Contrast with the other Halo campaigns, all of which I still like to play occasionally, especially Halo CE.



As a whole, my perception of Reach is that it's good but that I'm nonetheless dissapointed.

[Edited on 01.22.2011 12:01 AM PST]

  • 01.21.2011 11:51 PM PDT

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Soon to be breaking news:


US Coast Guard prepares for massive rescue mission after Iranian fleet sinks off shore. Reports say a small thunderstorm caused most of the ships to simply...fall apart.

To put it simply, it was a disappointment.

  • 01.22.2011 12:25 PM PDT

I currently am working on Halo Wars achievements. 4 to go.
I currently am working on Halo 2 achievements.
I currently have all Halo 3 achievements.
I currently have all Halo 3:ODST achievements.
I currently have all Halo: Reach achievements.

I love it, the gameplay of the campaign is very reminiscent of Halo:CE. But the story stinks. Other then that, it really is and does feel like Bungie's gift to the fans. I love it for that. So far CE>2>Reach.

  • 01.22.2011 1:55 PM PDT
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Reach> Combat Evolved> Halo 2> Halo 3

I love Reach. It's the only Halo that actually blew me completely away and was more than what I was expecting since Halo: Combat Evolved. Halo 2 was exactly what I was expecting it to be, except, it was really glitchy (Sometimes good, sometimes bad. It was actually one of the funnest things about the game). Halo 3... It just.... didn't give me as much fun as the rest of the games. I can't say exactly why, but, it just didn't. It was REALLY fun and one of my favorite games of all time, just, not as much as the rest of them.

  • 01.22.2011 2:28 PM PDT

I liked it.
:P
Although, this doesn't exactly belong in the CE forums...

[Edited on 01.22.2011 4:18 PM PST]

  • 01.22.2011 4:18 PM PDT

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I liked it.
:P
Although, this doesn't exactly belong in the CE forums...
Stragglers are going to find their way here eventually. Sometimes it's nice to humour them.

  • 01.22.2011 5:08 PM PDT


Posted by: chickenlittle
Posted by: Asmileface
I liked it.
:P
Although, this doesn't exactly belong in the CE forums...
Stragglers are going to find their way here eventually. Sometimes it's nice to humour them.

Except it's not a case of stragglerizing; the OP directly addresses the Halo CE forumgoers.

  • 01.22.2011 6:06 PM PDT

Posted by: Tupolev

Posted by: chickenlittle
Posted by: Asmileface
I liked it.
:P
Although, this doesn't exactly belong in the CE forums...
Stragglers are going to find their way here eventually. Sometimes it's nice to humour them.

Except it's not a case of stragglerizing; the OP directly addresses the Halo CE forumgoers.
By "stragglers" I mean the ADHD-riddled prepubescents from the Reach forum. They don't have a clue what's going on, they just want to post, accuracy and common sense be damned..

  • 01.22.2011 9:26 PM PDT

A huge disapointment, everything about the game felt rushed and not up to usual Halo standard

  • 01.23.2011 2:41 AM PDT

Your resident explosives and heavy ordinance expert, at your service.

The following is merely my opinion, if you rage over it you have failed yourself as a human being.

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I was pretty disappointed, the only slightly fun thing is doing split-screen firefight with a room full of friends. The weapons are unbalanced, the AA's are unbalanced, the melee is unbalanced, practically everything that made the Halo games good is gone. People say "adapt" to Reach, It is impossible to adapt to this game. I tolerate Reach, as many others do. and there is a difference between tolerating and adapting.

And don't even get me started on the campaign, it was so horrible in every way that when I finished it, I calmly set down the controller, turned off my Xbox, went outside and smoked a cigarette and contemplated on how Halo was now dead to me. Bungie -blam!- up on this venture, and they are in denial about it. I guess Reach is an alright game, but I refuse to see it as a Halo game, it is NOT Halo, it is just some game to me.

And don't expect to see any fixes to the game, Bungie got your money thats all they care about.

I remember when Bungie valued it's fans over the dollar.

[Edited on 01.23.2011 3:03 AM PST]

  • 01.23.2011 3:02 AM PDT
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nm

[Edited on 01.25.2011 1:57 AM PST]

  • 01.23.2011 12:19 PM PDT

I breathe BR, not kidding homie.

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For me it's about fan service. Great service for those who like Live and the multiplayer stuff. And a great effort in terms of campaign to include all the best things from the last 3.5. They really tried, but, for an old Campaign guy, it felt detached and non-epic. Disable this gun and then enable that gun...eh. Might be realistic, but, is not the stuff of CE.
cosign

  • 01.23.2011 4:46 PM PDT

>.<

One of the best Halo games!

  • 01.23.2011 9:41 PM PDT