- ROBERTO jh
- |
- Fabled Heroic Member
Posted by: The Sizzler
The Gravemind is supposedly eternal. I can't remember if it's been directly said, but it is heavily implied. This makes me think that the Gravemind from Halo 2 and 3 is the same that fought the Forerunners all those millenniums ago. Then there is this qoute from Halo 3...
Said by: Gravemind - Said on Halo.
Resignation is my virtue; like water I ebb, and flow. Defeat is simply the addition of time to a sentence I never deserved... but you imposed.
Now, this seems to make no sense back in Halo 3. What sentence? Who imposed it? It seemed to be just more mindless blathering of the Gravemind at the time, but now... I'm not so sure. If I (we?) are right, and the captive is/became the Gravemind, it makes a lot of sense. The Humans and/or Forerunners captured and imprisoned a Precursor (possibly infected) on Charum Harkor (I hope I spelled that right. >_>). His sentence was his imprisonment. He didn't deserve it because he possibly was just a soldier who was on the losing side of a battle and was taken as a POW for thousands upon thousands of years. He sees the Humans and remembers them from his past, especially Master Chief who also resembles Forerunner with his "combat skin". So, making some assumptions, the meaning of that quote becomes something like this. He ebbs and flows like water; at times he and the Flood (possible Precursors too) are strong, but then they suffer a defeat and the tide of the flood recedes... Only to come back some time later. Defeat, not death, which the Gravemind would never assume that he could die since he has lived for hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of years, means for the Gravemind imprisonment once more. Presumably, the Gravemind is the Captive Precursor from Charum Harkor, who was imprisoned there for God only knows how long, to finally be released by Mendicant Bias' Halo testing. Then, I'd say that the Gravemind never left his Halo. He had an ultimate weapon that he could use to guide his infected fleets to consume the galaxy. This Halo would become Delta Halo, where he resided until he took over High Charity. After the Forerunners activate the Halo rings, the Gravemind was SEVERELY weakened, and the Sentinels could finally overpower him and trap him and his Flood on the ring. Where they continued to fight for 100,000 years.
To better fortify the Gravemind being eternal and all, the Precursors were hundreds of millions of years old, with some ruins of their's being sucked under planets via plate-tectonics. Those ruins would reemerge millions of years later unscathed.
It would seem--based upon the description for Neural Physics--that the Precursors were "at one" with the universe, that they were truley gods. Indesctructable, immortal, or as you say, eternal, which is why no amount of fighting can perminantly kill the Gravemind or its Flood puppets.
Invincible, just like their technology. This would also explain why the Halo Rings are the only weapon that has any hope in hell of even harming the Gravemind. It seems that, as neural weapons, the Halo destroyes the essence of the universe, or "kills" the area of the universe it is fired in.
Remember, Precursors and their technology were based upon the philosophy the universe itself was alive. Creating a weapon that can "kill" the universe would be the only effective way to harm or kill the Mind if he was a Precursor.
And perhaps the Precursors vanished due to knowing their time in this universe was up, that they would need to pass down the Mantle to another, younger race.
Thus, the Forerunners and humans were born and the Precursors left the universe forever to ascend to an even higher state of being.
This could explain the jealous notion one possibly insane Precursor had (and was consequently locked up for it and left behind), that the Forerunners were the cause of the Precursors' vanishing. They were the result, not the means, just like how the Forerunners' fired the Halo Rings, then left, but the Covenant thought the Rings were the means, when they were the result.
In creating two races to inherit the Mantle (and apparently imposing a genetic code in both stating they were to protect all life in the universe), the Precursors garunteed the Mantle would survive.