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Subject: A Compilance of the Dates of the Fall of Reach

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July 24th, 2552:

Spartan-B312 aka Noble 6 arrives on Reach. Noble Team is sent to investigate recent disturbances in the Visegrad Command Relay Outpost. Instead of finding the suspected Insurrectionists, a small Covenant force is discovered, who had been trying to disrupt communications between Reach and the other Inner Colonies.

July 26th, 2552:

Noble Team is sent to the ONI Sword Base, which is currently under attack by a Covenant Corvette. Because this ONI Sector contains sensitive information, MAC rounds have been prohibited. Soon after Noble Team is sent to reactivate a communications array called Farragut Station, which will bring back communications to the rest of the UNSC. Noble Team clears the ONI base of Covenant forces and the Corvette begins to retreat, only to be blown clean through by a MAC round.

August 11th, 2552:

Noble Six and Noble Three are sent to investigate the Covenant "dark zone" in the Viery Territory and stumble upon a Covenant invasion force previously unknown to UNSC forces, only after clearing the area of Covenant forces.

August 12th, 2552:

Noble Team is deployed to take out Covenant Spire One, a tower placed around the Covenant landing zone discovered by Noble Three and Noble Six. The tower is destroyed by UNSC frigate Grafton, but is then destroyed by the cloaked Covenant supercarrier, Long Night of Solace

August 13th, 2552:

Noble Team is deployed to the secret Sabre launch facility to launch Noble Five and Noble Six into space to deliver a bomb to the Covenant supercarrier Long Night of Solace. This is possible by putting a slipspace "bomb" in the Covenant corvette, Ardent Prayer, and setting it on a docking path with the Long Night of Solace supercarrier and blowing it up.

August 23rd, 2552:

Noble Six, after witnessing Noble Five's sacrifice and falling down to Reach, links up with friendly forces in the city of New Alexandria, and assists with the evacuation efforts. Soon after, Noble Six links up with Noble Two and Noble One and destroys several Covenant jammers, restoring communications. Noble Six links up with the rest of Noble Team, who are hailed by Colonel Holland, ordering them to redeploy to Sword Base to destroy sensitive data. Later, Noble Two is killed by a Needle Rifle shot to the back of the head.

August 29th, 2552:

Noble Team is deployed to Sword Base and follows the preset coordinates to the databanks. Once they reach the coordinates, the coordinates are rewritten and lead underground. Noble Team discovers a massive Forerunner structure, with Dr. Halsey analyzing its data with an unknown AI(fragment of Cortana).

August 30th, 2552:

John-117, Linda-058, and James form Blue Team and go aboard the Dock to destroy the Circumference, while the remainder form Red Team and head to the surface of Reach to defend the power generators for the MAC guns. James goes MIA when a Needler hits his thruster pack and propels him into space during combat. Blue Team continue through the station, rescuing Staff Sergeant Johnson; Private O'Brien, Private Bisenti, and Pvt. Wallace A. Jenkins from Kig-yar and Sangheili.
Red Team's Pelican is shot down. They have no choice but to jump from the crashing Pelican and make a "hard landing" on the ground. Results in four dead and six seriously injured.
John-117, the clinically dead Linda-058, and the Marines board the Pillar of Autumn. Captain Keyes of the Pillar of Autumn orders the vessel to retreat from the system. However, Dr. Catherine Halsey contacts the Autumn, urgently requesting that Keyes drydock at the Aszod ship breaking yards on Reach to collect Cortana's fragment and the vital information she held.(credit to Halopedia)

Noble Six, One, and Four are deployed by Halsey to deliver the fragment of Cortana to the shipyards at which the Pillar of Autumn is docked. Noble One sacrifices himself to protect Noble Four and Six. Noble Four is killed by Zealots while manning a MAC gun to cover the Pillar of Autumn. Noble Six mans the MAC gun to cover the Pillar of Autumn's launch.

  • 01.19.2011 2:28 PM PDT

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Nice job.

  • 01.19.2011 2:33 PM PDT


Posted by: Sigma617
it's still a goddamn awful hole in the story.

Bungie sure was retarded in making this Canon.


Care to elaborate? I read the other thread about Reach breaking too much canon, but put in this context, it doesn't seem to far of a Reach(pun intended). I know the guy says Reach falling in one day is destroyed by Reach the game's dates, but you could look at the 30th as the day Reach fell, like "everyone get out, it's hopeless at this point, can't say we didn't try"

[Edited on 01.19.2011 3:29 PM PST]

  • 01.19.2011 3:27 PM PDT

I always thought the POA went to reach during chief had his space op, but other than that nice Job

  • 01.19.2011 3:34 PM PDT

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Posted by: AlphaZero X

I know the guy says Reach falling in one day is destroyed by Reach the game's dates, but you could look at the 30th as the day Reach fell, like "everyone get out, it's hopeless at this point, can't say we didn't try"


My point exactly.

  • 01.19.2011 5:03 PM PDT
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Posted by: Sigma617
it's still a goddamn awful hole in the story.

Bungie sure was retarded in making this Canon.


Care to elaborate? I read the other thread about Reach breaking too much canon, but put in this context, it doesn't seem to far of a Reach(pun intended). I know the guy says Reach falling in one day is destroyed by Reach the game's dates, but you could look at the 30th as the day Reach fell, like "everyone get out, it's hopeless at this point, can't say we didn't try"
You're telling me that the UNSC military hub couldn't spot a supercarrier in atmosphere for an entire month?! Or a Corvette?

Pfff..please...

[Edited on 01.19.2011 5:18 PM PST]

  • 01.19.2011 5:17 PM PDT


Posted by: ODST27
[/quote]You're telling me that the UNSC military hub couldn't spot a supercarrier in atmosphere for an entire month?! Or a Corvette?

Pfff..please...


It was cloaked, right? What are you getting at? The UNSC fleet's military response to Reach?

[Edited on 01.19.2011 5:30 PM PST]

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Posted by: ODST27
[/quote]You're telling me that the UNSC military hub couldn't spot a supercarrier in atmosphere for an entire month?! Or a Corvette?

Pfff..please...


It was cloaked, right? What are you getting at? The UNSC fleet's military response to Reach?

Can't speak for him...but for me, that was one huge part that was disappointing. Both sides acted like incompetent idiots during the entire conflict. Reach should never have lasted a month from what they showed us, in fact it shouldn't have lasted an hour from what they showed us.

And the whole not spotting the supercarrier thing is RETARDED.
Here is the picture comparison of most ship types in the halo universe. see for yourself
As you can see, the super carrier (27km) is at least 7 times the size of THE largest UNSC ship or the Covenant Super Cruiser mentioned in The Fall of Reach. (Which destroyed several ships with its energy projector) In fact, the only two constructs larger than the Covenant Super Carrier is the Unyielding Hierophant(30km) and High Charity (384km). How the hell is it able to get through ALL of Reach's sensors and land on the surface of the planet long enough to drop off entire legions of covenant troops? The military on Reach is insanely incompetent.

[Edited on 01.19.2011 5:47 PM PST]

  • 01.19.2011 5:46 PM PDT
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Posted by: Sigma617
it's still a goddamn awful hole in the story.

Bungie sure was retarded in making this Canon.
Not really. The books weren't made by bungie so bungie's canon basically overwrites the book canon.

That's how I see it anyway.

  • 01.19.2011 5:47 PM PDT
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Posted by: Sigma617
it's still a goddamn awful hole in the story.

Bungie sure was retarded in making this Canon.
Not really. The books weren't made by bungie so bungie's canon basically overwrites the book canon.

That's how I see it anyway.

The novels were written with supervision by Bungie,given the halo encyclopedia to work with, and some were even written BY bungie employees. Honestly, I don't even care that much about whose canon it is, all I care is that the games' version sucks compared to the novel's version, which effectively makes it a poor choice as a replacement.

  • 01.19.2011 5:50 PM PDT
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Posted by: ODST27
Posted by: AlphaZero X
Posted by: Sigma617
it's still a goddamn awful hole in the story.

Bungie sure was retarded in making this Canon.


Care to elaborate? I read the other thread about Reach breaking too much canon, but put in this context, it doesn't seem to far of a Reach(pun intended). I know the guy says Reach falling in one day is destroyed by Reach the game's dates, but you could look at the 30th as the day Reach fell, like "everyone get out, it's hopeless at this point, can't say we didn't try"
You're telling me that the UNSC military hub couldn't spot a supercarrier in atmosphere for an entire month?! Or a Corvette?

Pfff..please...


They didn't spot it because it was cloaked and the relay outpost in Visegrad was taken offline, so it apparently got slipped unnoticed.

  • 01.19.2011 5:50 PM PDT


Posted by: Beowolfe

How the hell is it able to get through ALL of Reach's sensors and land on the surface of the planet long enough to drop off entire legions of covenant troops? The military on Reach is insanely incompetent.


Inner atmospheric Slip-Space jump? They'd bypass all that. Cortana does it in First Strike in Threshold's atmosphere, and while she fears of the Covy's may find out about it, doesn't mean they didn't already know. Their slipspace capabilities are beyond the UNSC's. Additionally, the Nightfall stage states you're going into the "the dark zone", which I figured would be the Coventent masking it's presence.....and all that.

  • 01.19.2011 5:53 PM PDT
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Posted by: AlphaZero X

Posted by: Beowolfe

How the hell is it able to get through ALL of Reach's sensors and land on the surface of the planet long enough to drop off entire legions of covenant troops? The military on Reach is insanely incompetent.


Inner atmospheric Slip-Space jump? They'd bypass all that. Cortana does it in First Strike in Threshold's atmosphere, and while she fears of the Covy's may find out about it, doesn't mean they didn't already know. Their slipspace capabilities are beyond the UNSC's. Additionally, the Nightfall stage states you're going into the "the dark zone", which I figured would be the Coventent masking it's presence.....and all that.


As well in First Strike...it is said the Covenant do not know how to do it. Cortana had worries about it, but that wasn't the only indicator that they didn't have full control over their technologies. Why else would the covenant AI need to copy it and send it to the nearby Covenant Ships? And if it really was used, why wouldn't the full covenant fleet mentioned in TFoR just do that? That would have rendered the SMACs completely useless, but they didn't.

And I'd like to question what you mean by by-passing "all of that". In TFoR, it is explained that it is indeed possible for space probes and stations to be able to detect items in slipspace, especially something as massive as a covenant ship. The one detected in TFoR wasn't even nearly as massive as Long Night Of Solace. Reach was supposed to be heavily defended, so why was their no sign that anyone noticed anything?

On another note, at the time of their technology, there is no true "dark zone". You can't simply hide an entire physical area from the rest of the world. Normal people would have noticed that something strange is going on, let alone the military. They had AIs ffs. It's not like the covenant didn't do anything at all once they were on Reach. They were raiding settlements and knocking out communication arrays.

  • 01.19.2011 6:08 PM PDT


Posted by: ODST27
Posted by: AlphaZero X
Posted by: Sigma617
it's still a goddamn awful hole in the story.

Bungie sure was retarded in making this Canon.


Care to elaborate? I read the other thread about Reach breaking too much canon, but put in this context, it doesn't seem to far of a Reach(pun intended). I know the guy says Reach falling in one day is destroyed by Reach the game's dates, but you could look at the 30th as the day Reach fell, like "everyone get out, it's hopeless at this point, can't say we didn't try"
You're telling me that the UNSC military hub couldn't spot a supercarrier in atmosphere for an entire month?! Or a Corvette?

Pfff..please...


It was completely invisible, apparently to sensors as well.

Hmm, in this context, it makes a lot more sense.

Not perfect sense, mind, but it would help.

[Edited on 01.19.2011 6:18 PM PST]

  • 01.19.2011 6:15 PM PDT

Check this out:

http://boards.ign.com/halo/b5240/196236159/p1/?13

[Edited on 01.19.2011 6:23 PM PST]

  • 01.19.2011 6:22 PM PDT

Beware the smiley face! =D

Reach dosen't match canon perfectley, but then again it is a Halo game and so really it over-rides anything in FoR if it needs to.

Apart from how combat works, the games are the first port of call for canon.

EDIT - Also, this explanation along with the cloaking is actually a really good explanation. Well done.

[Edited on 01.20.2011 1:35 AM PST]

  • 01.20.2011 1:35 AM PDT


Posted by: ODST27
Posted by: AlphaZero X
Posted by: Sigma617
it's still a goddamn awful hole in the story.

Bungie sure was retarded in making this Canon.


Care to elaborate? I read the other thread about Reach breaking too much canon, but put in this context, it doesn't seem to far of a Reach(pun intended). I know the guy says Reach falling in one day is destroyed by Reach the game's dates, but you could look at the 30th as the day Reach fell, like "everyone get out, it's hopeless at this point, can't say we didn't try"
You're telling me that the UNSC military hub couldn't spot a supercarrier in atmosphere for an entire month?! Or a Corvette?

Pfff..please...

The reason it slipped in to reach's atmosphere is because a small team of zealots took out the Visigrad relay, long enough for it to get in to position and set up a dark zone.

And because of the dark zone, that is why it wasn't spotted once the relay was back online.

Pfff..please...

  • 01.20.2011 2:38 AM PDT