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Only the paranoid will survive!

Did this happen in the bit where I rarely came onto Bungie.net for awhile, or is this new? I saw it happen twice today- where the thread creator asked for the thread to be locked and it was. I'm not sure that I like this, even if my opinion doesn't count for all that much. I liked it better when if a thread was "done", it would go a few pages back. I don't think that threads should be locked at the creators request. Let them go through "due process", one might say.

  • 12.04.2005 7:49 PM PDT
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True, but, what if the thread does serve no further purpose? Take for instance, mine. The questions had all been answered, so there was no further need for people to reply to the thread. Since that is true, should anyone reply to the thread, then they keep the thread on the front page.

It's better that the thread is simply locked. After all, if you feel the need to add your opinion, surely there is someone in specific you could send your opinion to.

  • 12.04.2005 7:55 PM PDT

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Posted by: ChiChi
Gimpy, don't be an idiot. Comparing the wiimote to the power glove is like comparing sex to dieing.

Remeber the original "Describe the poster above you in three words" thread?

That was locked by the creator's request.

Besides, if it's his thread, why not lock it if he wants it to be?

  • 12.04.2005 7:56 PM PDT
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I think it should be a personal button that every user can use when they make a thread. Give them the ability to lock their thread, but not unlock it.

  • 12.04.2005 8:05 PM PDT
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I'm okay with it. I trust the mods not to lock a thread that can still provide positvie, productive discussion.

  • 12.04.2005 8:05 PM PDT

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I think that a person should be allowed to lock their own thread on request. It's their thread after all...

  • 12.04.2005 8:31 PM PDT
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Posted by: mediocresniper
I think that a person should be allowed to lock their own thread on request. It's their thread after all...


But once put on these public frums it is everyone's topic, and the yhave the right to say what they want. If George Bush(gotta love him)was able to retract everything he said, there would be no angry liberals. sorry if I got political. If I am lucky the creator of the thread will request it be locked, and then people can not scold me in future replies

  • 12.05.2005 4:03 AM PDT

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I think your talking about mine. about the save the underground thing.

Well, the reason behind that was, NO ONE was reading anything but hte first post anymore. I decided not to do it and do something brand new, I bet you couldnt even tell me what it is because you hadnt read it down below. So people kept talking about the first post, and it was now pointless. The thread had no longer served ANY purpose.I asked for it to be locked, the mod asked why, I gave my reason, and they locked it.

Done deal.

  • 12.05.2005 5:26 AM PDT

The thread should only be locked if the moderator in question thinks that it serves no further purpose.

Having not seen either thread, I can assume that this was the case both times.

  • 12.05.2005 5:33 AM PDT
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Indeed, what people have to understand is that even though they create a thread, it is not actually theirs. It belongs to B.net, and just because the creator doesn't want it around, it could still be the catalyst for worthwhile discussion.

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  • 12.05.2005 5:40 AM PDT
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When I post in a thread I have made an investment in the topic. That thread becomes partially mine because I am interested in the discussion. I think if you make the argument that a thread belongs to a person and not the community then you can say that moderators should not moderate and the thread starter only should be able to have moderator priveledges within their own thread. This obviously wouldn't work well and that is why we should view threads as property of all the members. I don't like locked threads except when rules are being violated. Otherwise the members of a forum can decide whether or not they want the thread to continue by replying or not replying to it.

  • 12.05.2005 5:52 AM PDT

http://www.bungie.net/fanclub/atticus/Group/GroupHome.aspx

Ok, lets say this:

I am the creator of a thread. I figure its no good anymore, or its pointless, or SOEMTHING. And I decide I dont want it anymore.

Would you rather that thread be locked? OR would you rather I edit ALL my posts in it saying nevermind. So the new people have no idea what it is about, and hardly anything makes sense?

Which woud you choose? I think at least having the option to do it, but it not a for sure thing is fine. Asking a mod to lock it or delete should be allowed, but they can still decide if they want to or not. The mod i asked asked me why I wanted it locked. and I told him it was now pointless and served no more purpose.

Thats just my opinion, but I dont think we shoud have it a rule the creator cant do it.

  • 12.05.2005 1:37 PM PDT

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The other day i had a thread of mine deleted by my request. I like it.
The thread was no longer needed, why waiste space?

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  • 12.05.2005 1:52 PM PDT
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Posted by: EAGLES5
The other day i had a thread of mine deleted by my request. I like it.
The thread was no longer needed, why waiste space?


Precisely. The same reason why I requested my thread to be locked.

  • 12.05.2005 5:04 PM PDT
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Posted by: EAGLES5
The other day i had a thread of mine deleted by my request. I like it.
The thread was no longer needed, why waiste space?


It was no longer needed in your opinion. Someone, somewhere might have wanted to add something. Just because you think it has served its purpose and should be locked doens't mean the rest of the forum shares your opinion.

This is just my opinion as well. I think that if a thread isn't breaking the rules it should be left alone. The last thing the b.net forums need is people trying to make things move even faster by locking threads deemed "dead".

And to Goweb, it was locked with the message "Locked by creators request." Now I don't want the mod who did this to feel insulted or anything. I'm sure you weren't trying to make me upset.

So basically what I'm saying is that the creator of a thread should not have the power to simply ask for the topic to be locked. It's not his call. You don't own every thread you make. I don't have any more "rights" on this thread then, say, Sir Fragula would. It's a thread on b.net and it becomes public property once I post it. And if it isn't breaking the rules, I feel it shouldn't be locked at all by the mods, even if it is totally dead.

[Edited on 12/5/2005]

  • 12.05.2005 5:24 PM PDT

It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us freedom of the press. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who has given us the freedom to demonstrate. It is the soldier, not the lawyer, who has given us the right to a fair trial. And it is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves the flag, whose coffin is draped in the flag that allows the protester to burn the flag.Father Dennis Edward O'Brien, USMC

I made the thread for to learn info for myself.

I was given the answer, and i was told by a member that the topic was to be off topic. After getting my answer i aksed Great Pretender to lock or delete it. I dont see the thread so i guess he did it.

I dont see a problem. If another member thinks he was wronged, then he is free to make another thread.

Just my opinion also

  • 12.05.2005 5:41 PM PDT

And to Goweb, it was locked with the message "Locked by creators request." Now I don't want the mod who did this to feel insulted or anything. I'm sure you weren't trying to make me upset.
You didn't understand what I said.

Posting "Locked by creator's request" is a bit of a misnomer. It will only be locked if there is a reason better than "please lock my thread" to do so.

  • 12.05.2005 5:46 PM PDT

Posted by: gnome13
dude, you pulled a jesus!

I think that certain threads should be locked at the creator's request, but not all of them. Instead of asking for it to be locked because they don't want to see it anymore, they could always... I don't know... leave the thread and move on. I know that some threads, after answering the questions answered, no longer need any addition, as it said all that neede to be said. However, any thread that hasn't fulfilled this requirement should be left alone.

For God's sake! Is it that hard for some people to just ignore a thread?!?!?

  • 12.05.2005 5:51 PM PDT
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Posted by: goweb
And to Goweb, it was locked with the message "Locked by creators request." Now I don't want the mod who did this to feel insulted or anything. I'm sure you weren't trying to make me upset.
You didn't understand what I said.

Posting "Locked by creator's request" is a bit of a misnomer. It will only be locked if there is a reason better than "please lock my thread" to do so.


It wouldn't appear there is much more then that here, although there may be more then meets the eye. And I believe I understand what you're saying, though if I didn't get it with this post, you'll probably need to go a bit deeper.

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  • 12.05.2005 5:53 PM PDT

It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us freedom of the press. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who has given us the freedom to demonstrate. It is the soldier, not the lawyer, who has given us the right to a fair trial. And it is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves the flag, whose coffin is draped in the flag that allows the protester to burn the flag.Father Dennis Edward O'Brien, USMC

In that link the reason for the thread was contemplated and the creators problem was solved.

He asked for it to be locked and it was locked.

No harm, No Foul

Lets not condem any mods or members

  • 12.05.2005 6:06 PM PDT

Posted by: Pimp at Sea
It wouldn't appear there is much more then that here, although there may be more then meets the eye. And I believe I understand what you're saying, though if I didn't get it with this post, you'll probably need to go a bit deeper.

If you don't agree with the moderator's decision (as in, it was locked for no good reason) then it's best to take that up with the moderator in question. They'll be able explain their reasoning. I can only guess at what the reason was.

  • 12.05.2005 6:19 PM PDT
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Only the paranoid will survive!

Posted by: EAGLES5
In that link the reason for the thread was contemplated and the creators problem was solved.

He asked for it to be locked and it was locked.

No harm, No Foul

Lets not condem any mods or members


And who, may I ask, have I condemned?
I'm just trying to point out something I see as a fault. I'm not condemning anyone. Sure, I named a name or two. That's not bad. They weren't trying to cause harm.

Alright Goweb. But still, is there anyway that all of the mods could not do this? I probably sound a bit selfish, but still. It seems like a terrible 'bypassing of the system' if you will.

[Edited on 12/5/2005]

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"Whatever exists, whatever in creation exists without my knowledge exists without my consent. These anonymous creatures may seem little or nothing in the world. Yet the smallest crumb can devour us. Any smallest thing beneath yon rock out of men's knowing. Only nature can enslave man and only when the existence of each last entity is routed out and made to stand naked before him will he be properly suzerain of the earth."

It wouldn't appear there is much more then that here, although there may be more then meets the eye. And I believe I understand what you're saying, though if I didn't get it with this post, you'll probably need to go a bit deeper.

*Ahem*

Posted by: Nakki Kedem
I think your talking about mine. about the save the underground thing.

Well, the reason behind that was, NO ONE was reading anything but hte first post anymore. I decided not to do it and do something brand new, I bet you couldnt even tell me what it is because you hadnt read it down below. So people kept talking about the first post, and it was now pointless. The thread had no longer served ANY purpose.I asked for it to be locked, the mod asked why, I gave my reason, and they locked it.

Done deal.


Which is actually quite ironic in a sense that you would say that Pimps.

Truly, as long as the reason is good, for instance, if the topic was a question which has been answered somewhere else in the thread, or if an idea comes up that is changed (like Nakki's), then the thread should be locked, provided the creator wants it locked. The creator can then ask a moderator to lock the thread, explaining the reasoning, and if the locking or deleting is justified well, then it will be locked.

  • 12.05.2005 6:33 PM PDT
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Posted by: Mabian
It wouldn't appear there is much more then that here, although there may be more then meets the eye. And I believe I understand what you're saying, though if I didn't get it with this post, you'll probably need to go a bit deeper.

*Ahem*

Posted by: Nakki Kedem
I think your talking about mine. about the save the underground thing.

Well, the reason behind that was, NO ONE was reading anything but hte first post anymore. I decided not to do it and do something brand new, I bet you couldnt even tell me what it is because you hadnt read it down below. So people kept talking about the first post, and it was now pointless. The thread had no longer served ANY purpose.I asked for it to be locked, the mod asked why, I gave my reason, and they locked it.

Done deal.


Which is actually quite ironic in a sense that you would say that Pimps.

Truly, as long as the reason is good, for instance, if the topic was a question which has been answered somewhere else in the thread, or if an idea comes up that is changed (like Nakki's), then the thread should be locked, provided the creator wants it locked. The creator can then ask a moderator to lock the thread, explaining the reasoning, and if the locking or deleting is justified well, then it will be locked.

No, it should not be locked. If it gets off topic it can be locked. If it breaks a rule it can be locked. Not because one member decided nobody gets to reply anymore because he has deemed it 'dead'. If the idea changes then why not keep the same thread? That way all the info and the evolution of the project is right there at your fingertips.

  • 12.05.2005 6:37 PM PDT

Posted by: Pimp at Sea
Alright Goweb. But still, is there anyway that all of the mods could not do this? I probably sound a bit selfish, but still. It seems like a terrible 'bypassing of the system' if you will.

Unless we decide to change it, all of the mods follow this policy.

  • 12.05.2005 6:37 PM PDT

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