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Subject: How did the Infection Forms survive Halo?

Now, it is known that Halo is a neurological weapon, effectively killing the brain of living creatures so the Flood can't use it. However, the Array must also kill Combat Forms, and the only way I can see that happening is if the Infection Form dies, because it is the 'brain' of the Combat Form. However, as observed in Halo CE, there were hundreds of Infection Forms left. How did the Infection Forms survive?

  • 01.20.2011 7:10 PM PDT

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Flood don't have nervous systems. "Halo doesn't kill the flood it kills there food...Humans, covenant we are all equally edible"
Halo wasn't designed to kill the flood.

[Edited on 01.20.2011 7:17 PM PST]

  • 01.20.2011 7:15 PM PDT


Posted by: Rolling Flame
Now, it is known that Halo is a neurological weapon, effectively killing the brain of living creatures so the Flood can't use it. However, the Array must also kill Combat Forms, and the only way I can see that happening is if the Infection Form dies, because it is the 'brain' of the Combat Form. However, as observed in Halo CE, there were hundreds of Infection Forms left. How did the Infection Forms survive?


From what I've seen, it's been stated that the Halos destroy the Flood's food sources, I haven't seen any mention of it harming the Flood, other than hopefully starving them to death. And the Infection Forms on the Halos were also stated to be in stasis for study, so they were obviously preserved.

  • 01.20.2011 7:17 PM PDT

it is also equally possible that the forerunners preserved some flood as well as every other sentient organism in the universe, as they could not bring themselves to completely destroy any species no matter how dangerous.

  • 01.20.2011 7:20 PM PDT

My problem with the 'killing their Food' theory is that, by the time, Halo was fired, there was probably millions upon millions of Combat Forms, all, most probably wearing incredibly powerful armour, and all armed with very dangerous weapons. I just can't see how Sentinels, given how weak they are in the games, could defeat them on their on. Remove the Combat Forms from the equation, and things look a tad plausible.

  • 01.20.2011 7:24 PM PDT

You can find me lurking the flood. Bring snacks.

If you read cryptum it says that Halo destroys all life. So wouldn't that include the flood?

  • 01.20.2011 8:05 PM PDT

i believe i read somewere that halo kills all life including flood except for there infection forms which survive

  • 01.20.2011 8:09 PM PDT

The reason that they were still alive is that the Forerunner labs were supposed to be carrying out long-term automated study, not because the Forerunner failed to intentionally kill them.

Which means that even if the Halo effect DOES kill Flood, the Forerunner would have set up a system for evacuating and later restoring Flood to their labs much in the way that they had a system for reseeding the galaxy with non-flood life; it's totally within their capacities and logic.

  • 01.20.2011 8:17 PM PDT

Posted by: Tupolev
The reason that they were still alive is that the Forerunner labs were supposed to be carrying out long-term automated study, not because the Forerunner failed to intentionally kill them.

Which means that even if the Halo effect DOES kill Flood, the Forerunner would have set up a system for evacuating and later restoring Flood to their labs much in the way that they had a system for reseeding the galaxy with non-flood life; it's totally within their capacities and logic.


The only problem is that, according to Cryptum, the Flood and other life were already on the rings before they were fired. I can't imagine the Forerunner would go to the effort to contain them, and stick them in the containment facilities, then move them to a safe location, and then move them back to the ring.

  • 01.20.2011 9:04 PM PDT


Posted by: Rolling Flame
Posted by: Tupolev
The reason that they were still alive is that the Forerunner labs were supposed to be carrying out long-term automated study, not because the Forerunner failed to intentionally kill them.

Which means that even if the Halo effect DOES kill Flood, the Forerunner would have set up a system for evacuating and later restoring Flood to their labs much in the way that they had a system for reseeding the galaxy with non-flood life; it's totally within their capacities and logic.


The only problem is that, according to Cryptum, the Flood and other life were already on the rings before they were fired. I can't imagine the Forerunner would go to the effort to contain them, and stick them in the containment facilities, then move them to a safe location, and then move them back to the ring.

How is that a problem? Like I said, they built an infrastructure for reseeding the entire galaxy; that they could built a delivery system that could send a few flood spores out to each lab network is hardly much of a stretch, especially if they think continued research is vital (which 343GS certainly did, anyway; it's pretty clear from The Library that he thought the labs were a good idea and that nobody expected the Covenant to happen. And, to be fair, The Covenant probably wouldn't have been created if Mendicant Bias' dreadnaught hadn't seemingly escaped Offensive Bias 100,000 years ago.).

[Edited on 01.21.2011 11:32 AM PST]

  • 01.21.2011 11:30 AM PDT

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The Halo's have selective fireing and different "levels" of power, as stated in cryptum.

It's reasonable to assume then that the flood kept on the Halo's were kept in something that would prevent them from being effected, or that the setting used when the remaining 7 were fired didn't effect them by choice.

Maybe the Halo's don't effect anything located on itself?

  • 01.21.2011 12:43 PM PDT

Weren't the Flood put onto the rings so the Forerunner's could study The Flood's effect on the environment? There's only one reference to this anywhere in the series as I recall, Guilty Spark says something to the Chief during the Library-"Your environment suit will serve you well as the Flood begin to change/process the atmosphere". Since the Halos reproduce the natural environments of the alien races collected by the Librarian, that's why Flood are interred there.

  • 01.21.2011 1:07 PM PDT
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They were stored on halo for experimentation and research. The methods of storage are unknown.

  • 01.21.2011 2:37 PM PDT

Posted by: Alf stewert
i believe i read somewere that halo kills all life including flood except for there infection forms which survive


Yes. I have also heard this as well.

  • 01.21.2011 3:49 PM PDT

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Flood consumes life forms and all the knowledge of those lifeforms slowly becomes the Gravemind that we have seen in the Halo games. every time the halo rings fire, the gravemind has to start all over again, but the infection forms aren't killed, since they don't have intelligence, and can continue infecting

  • 01.21.2011 5:23 PM PDT