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Subject: UNSC Marines should be smarter.

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I'm kinda tired of these guys that shoot at nothing and make comments about how tall you are in halos 1-3. They should be more like Marines. Not the guys you just want to steal weapons from.

  • 01.20.2011 7:36 PM PDT

I understand completely. Forget marines, what about the noble team?

  • 01.20.2011 8:00 PM PDT

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The Marines in Halo CE were actually useful though! I loved having them around! In Halo 2 they were also useful, their default weapons just weren't. In 3 they were funny through.

  • 01.20.2011 8:23 PM PDT

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Posted by: SirGufNox
I understand completely. Forget marines, what about the noble team?

Yeah, I agree. The Marines are very dumb in the Halos. They can't even drive a Warthog. Then, you're with Noble Team (Super soldiers) and they're just as bad as the Marines. Poor job on Bungie's part, but there's nothing we can do unfortunately.

  • 01.20.2011 8:24 PM PDT

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I HATE the Marines that sound really young and they just make dumb comments and never shut it. Rookies. I just pound them with bullets and continue on with any of the Aussies or mature sounding Marines haha

  • 01.20.2011 8:30 PM PDT

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You'd rather stay back and have the AI kill everything? The reason friendly AI is.. stupid.. is because they want us to PLAY the game, and not stay back and let the marines/spartans do all the work.

  • 01.20.2011 9:06 PM PDT

Like Iceclaw, I didn't like how, in Halo 3, the Marines were constantly stupid things. I mean, there is a time and place for jokes, and the last ditch attempt to stop Truth from firing Halo is not the time. Fortunately, the Reach troopers were much more professional in combat, even if their AI was terrible. I also like how their humour was more subtle.

  • 01.20.2011 9:10 PM PDT

It would be nice if they had squad cohesion or knew how to drive or where to fire rocket launchers... like not right next to me, yeah im taking about you Johnson and your damn lazer at the end of H3.

  • 01.20.2011 9:43 PM PDT
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Making realistic AI isn't easy, folks.

  • 01.20.2011 10:05 PM PDT

Posted by: Sigma617
The CE Marines were absolutely perfect.
those blokes felt like badasses.
Aside from throwing grenades at me and shooting each other when Flood grappled on, yeah.

  • 01.20.2011 10:13 PM PDT

Posted by: Sigma617
The CE Marines were absolutely perfect.
those blokes felt like badasses. not hideously retarded fools I have to save every second.
Nope. They sucked the worst.

  • 01.20.2011 10:22 PM PDT
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Posted by: Iceclaw142I
I just pound them with bullets and continue on with any of the Aussies or mature sounding Marines haha
I put a bullet in the Aussies; I'm an Aussie, and they talk like bogans (Australian hillbillys, for anyone wondering).

It's almost embarrassing to hear them talk..

  • 01.20.2011 11:40 PM PDT

I actually loved the Marines in the Halo games. They were always useful. And instead of stealing their weapons, I gave them better weapons.

  • 01.20.2011 11:58 PM PDT

Posted by: ExquisiteDragon
What? They averaged kills, anything past CE was weak.
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Posted by: Sigma617
The CE Marines were absolutely perfect.
those blokes felt like badasses. not hideously retarded fools I have to save every second.
Nope. They sucked the worst.
Averaged kills? With the ARs? With any hit making them scream? Nonsense.

Anything past CE was weak? Have you ever made your way through Delta Halo or Regret with Marines you've given snipers and rifles?

  • 01.21.2011 12:10 AM PDT

You know why they suck? Their weapons are always significantly weaker then ones you're holding.

What takes you one shot to kill with a sniper rifle would take Jun 2 shots, or you ten shots with an AR would probably take a Marine 20. Seriously, this is always the case.

The only weapon it doesn't happen with is the SMGs in Halo 3 for some reason, so I always make sure they have them.

It even happens to the Splazer and Rocket Launcher. Its stupid as hell.

  • 01.21.2011 5:19 AM PDT

Posted by: ROBERTO jh
You know why they suck? Their weapons are always significantly weaker then ones you're holding.

What takes you one shot to kill with a sniper rifle would take Jun 2 shots, or you ten shots with an AR would probably take a Marine 20. Seriously, this is always the case.

The only weapon it doesn't happen with is the SMGs in Halo 3 for some reason, so I always make sure they have them.

It even happens to the Splazer and Rocket Launcher. Its stupid as hell.

Yea, I noticed this to. It's like the AI just does some assist and the player finishes the kill. It's like their damage is weaker than the player.

  • 01.21.2011 6:12 AM PDT

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Well UNSC Marines are smart, in the Halo Novels. Bungie wants you to fight the war, not the Marines.

  • 01.21.2011 6:15 AM PDT

I understand how marines aren't supposed to do all the work and everything but they're too weak i've watched as 3 marines take on 1 grunt and lost...by a lot.

[Edited on 01.21.2011 9:35 AM PST]

  • 01.21.2011 9:35 AM PDT

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I was discussing about this AI problem with a friend of mine, it's sure that Bungie know how to make "smart" ennemies in their games (they're faster, and sometimes unpredictable...) but the allies "wow what a shame!". Marines are just dumb, they're funny for their dialog but that's all. I was sad when i see no improvements in Reach, while Bungie was saying the AI of allies will be better.

[Edited on 01.21.2011 11:30 AM PST]

  • 01.21.2011 9:46 AM PDT

Posted by: ROBERTO jh
You know why they suck? Their weapons are always significantly weaker then ones you're holding.

What takes you one shot to kill with a sniper rifle would take Jun 2 shots, or you ten shots with an AR would probably take a Marine 20. Seriously, this is always the case.

The only weapon it doesn't happen with is the SMGs in Halo 3 for some reason, so I always make sure they have them.

It even happens to the Splazer and Rocket Launcher. Its stupid as hell.
Actually, I'm pretty sure that started in ODST.

  • 01.21.2011 10:17 AM PDT

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To be honest, when I fight along AI UNSC marines or army, I give them Covenant weapons and for some reason, they become deadlier.

Plus Bungie wants to give you the illusion that the Covenant is more complex than a marine or army trooper.

Althou I agree when marines or army troops fight grunts....grunts will take more damage than 2 marines. Not the description showed in Halo: Contact Harvest, those troopers were hellcats!

[Edited on 01.21.2011 10:50 AM PST]

  • 01.21.2011 10:49 AM PDT

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