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Posted by: N00b Xtrmnatr
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Posted by: N00b Xtrmnatr
Posted by: OrderedComa
I don't see why there's a problem with it being in atmosphere, the Spirit of Fire, which is at least the same size, is seen in Halo Wars staying aloft in the atmosphere of the both the atmosphere of the outer "Flood World" and "Inner World" of the shield world. And the Autumn itself is seen flying off of Reach. It's simply too heavy to land and get back up into the air again without help.
The landing on Halo was only hard because systems were failing and they were running on a skeleton crew since almost everybody else had jumped ship by that point. And if it couldn't actually fly in atmosphere then I think it wouldn't have wound up so "straight" in its landing position, it would have wound up in a less natural position than what looked like an airplane landing.
Well, you're right. But the SoF is a colony ship, not a cruiser warship. They may be the same size, but not the same mass. Plus, I'm not bashing Ensemble Studios or anything, but they could've screwed up on the cannon because of overseen mistakes when Bungie gave the green-light for the cannon in Halo Wars. Unfortunetly, there is the whole "Game > Book cannon" thing, which I think is a middle finger to all the fans and writers of the books. there was no canon dicrepincies at all in halo wars everything fit, and if you say spartans with shields thats only for gameplay not story
To be fair, neither of us could know if cannon was broken or not. We weren't there when Frankie and Ensemble were going over the cannon.
Back on topic now...
Directed to OrderedComa:
In Fall of Reach, at Sigma Octanus IV, The Iroquois, A UNSC destroyer, could BARELY stay up in orbit. What happened is the Iroquois crashed into a covenant stealth ship. The ship was said to be diminutive, which is another word for tiny or wee. Basically, Keyes plowed right through the ship with little damage. But when he tried to regain orbit, the ship began falling toward the planet. Keyes had to divert all power of the ship reactors to the engines, and use the emergengy thrusters.
"Lovell exploded the aft emergency thrusters and the Iroquois jumped. Lovell's eyes were locked on the repeater displays as he fought for every centimeter of maneuvering he could get. Sweat ran down his forehead and soaked his flight suit." "Orbit stabilizing-barely." Lovell said.
If a destroyer had that much trouble keeping itself from dropping like a fly to the planet, then how in the hell is the PoA, a cruiser, just sitting in Azod, perfectly fine, like nothing happen?
I would say that this would be an event where we defer to gameplay over what the books say. The gameplay shows ships in atmosphere that shouldn't be there, and the books say they should crash like rocks in a pond, I think this would be the case because Bungie has said, in regards to canon, that on small "discrepancies" between games and books, that the game/gameplay is the higher canon. The gameplay also shows lots of ships in atmosphere, I can't say what kinds they are, I've never really studied them, but they don't all look like just frigates.
I think the Games>Books makes sense, the writers can get things wrong, or take their creative license too far, and the games are the original source anyway. It's the same with Star Wars, the source made by the creators of the story has higher authority than someone who was given permission to write something falling within the larger mythos.
And if the Autumn were following the same case as what Nylund depicted for the Iroquois it should not have landed the way it did in CE.