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I'm going to be hosting a dedicated server in about a month once I move and get better Internet. I'm going to either put it on Halo PC or Halo CE. Was wondering which the community would prefer and what Gametypes/Maps would you prefer I put in? I was thinking along the lines of this:

Halo PC: - (Mainly Slayer, but, with some Objective Games)
Sidewinder - Team InstaGib (Snipers No Shields)
Prisoner - FFA Pistols No Shields
Hang 'Em High - Team Oddball
Blood Gulch: Team Designated Target
Damnation - Team Slayer
Rat Race - Team Slayer
Chiron-TL34 - FFA Shotguns No Shields
Sidewinder - Team Slayer
Death Island - Team Slayer
Rat Race - Capture the Flag
Derelict - Assault
Ice Fields - Team Snipers
Ice Fields - Capture the Flag
Timberland - Team King of the Hill
Battle Creek - FFA Slayer
Blood Gulch - FFA InstaGib
Hang 'Em High - Team Pistols No Shields
Battle Creek - Assault
Derelict - Team Oddball
Hang 'Em High - Team Snipers
Blood Gulch - Team King of the Hill
Wizard - FFA Pistols No Shields
Damnation - Capture the Flag
Death Island - Team InstaGib
Danger Canyon - Team Slayer
Hang 'Em High - Team Designated Target
Wizard - FFA Slayer
Longest - Team Shotguns No Shields
Prisoner - FFA Slayer
Rat Race - Team Oddball
Battle Creek - Capture the Flag
Rat Race - Assault

I've added Team Race on Death Island, Blood Gulch, and Sidewinder to the map vote options, but, not to the playlist

Halo Custom Edition: - (Small/Medium Custom Map Server)
No Remorse - Team Slayer
No Remorse - Capture The Flag
Precipice - Capture the Flag
CMT Snow Grove - Team Slayer
Precipice - Team Slayer
H2 New Mombasa - Capture the Flag
z Sanctuary H2 pb2 - Team Slayer
CMT Snow Grove - Capture the Flag
Chronopolis C3 Public Beta - Team Slayer
z Sanctuary H2 pb2 - Capture the Flag
H2 New Mombasa - Team Slayer
No Remorse - FFA Pistols No Shields

Trying to figure out if I need to add more to the Custom Edition playlist, but, I don't want to make it to where people have to download tons of maps to play.
Gametype Variants Settings
Friendly Fire/Friendly Fire Penalty/Suicide Penalty is all off due to the annoyance of the people who troll servers with doing these things. All other options are available for discussion


Assault Gametype:
Game Rules:
Assault: Yes
Single Flag: On
Flag Must Reset: Off
Flag At Home To Score: No
Captures To Win: 3
Time Limit: None

Player Options:
Number Of Lifes: Infinite
Maximum Health: 100%
Shields: Yes
Respawn Time: Instant
Respawn Time Growth: None
Odd Man Out: No
Invisible Players: No
Suicide Penalty: None

Item Options:
Infinite Grenades: No
Weapon Set: Normal
Starting Equipment: Generic

Vehicle Options:
Vehicle Respawn Time: None
1 Chain/Rocket hog 1 Ghost

Indicator Options
Objectives Indicator: None
Other Players On Radar: None
Friend Indicators On Screen: Yes

Teamplay Options
Friendly Fire: Off
Friendly Fire Penalty: None
Auto Team Balance: No


Capture the Flag Gametype:
Game Rules:
Assault: No
Single Flag: Off
Flag Must Reset: No
Flag At Home To Score: Yes
Captures To Win: 3
Time Limit: None

Player Options:
Number Of Lifes: Infinite
Maximum Health: 100%
Shields: Yes
Respawn Time: Instant
Respawn Time Growth: None
Odd Man Out: No
Invisible Players: No
Suicide Penalty: None

Item Options:
Infinite Grenades: No
Weapon Set: Normal
Starting Equipment: Generic

Vehicle Options:
Vehicle Respawn Time: None
1 Chain/Rocket hog 1 Ghost

Indicator Options
Objectives Indicator: None
Other Players On Radar: None
Friend Indicators On Screen: Yes

Teamplay Options
Friendly Fire: Off
Friendly Fire Penalty: None
Auto Team Balance: No


Designated Target Gametype (Slayer):
Game Rules:
Death Bonus: No
Kill In Order: Yes
Kill Penalty: No
Kills to Win: 15
Team Play: No
Time Limit: None

Player Options:
Number Of Lifes: Infinite
Maximum Health: 100%
Shields: Yes
Respawn Time: Instant
Respawn Time Growth: None
Odd Man Out: No
Invisible Players: No
Suicide Penalty: None

Item Options:
Infinite Grenades: No
Weapon Set: Normal
Starting Equipment: Generic

Vehicle Options:
No Vehicles

Indicator Options
Objectives Indicator: Motion Tracker
Other Players On Radar: All
Friend Indicators On Screen: Yes

Teamplay Options
Friendly Fire: Off
Friendly Fire Penalty: None
Auto Team Balance: No


Snipers Gametype (Slayer):
Game Rules:
Death Bonus: No
Kill In Order: No
Kill Penalty: No
Kills to Win: 25
Team Play: No
Time Limit: None

Player Options:
Number Of Lifes: Infinite
Maximum Health: 100%
Shields: Yes
Respawn Time: Instant
Respawn Time Growth: None
Odd Man Out: No
Invisible Players: No
Suicide Penalty: None

Item Options:
Infinite Grenades: No
Weapon Set: Normal
Starting Equipment: Generic

Vehicle Options:
No Vehicles

Indicator Options
Objectives Indicator: None
Other Players On Radar: No
Friend Indicators On Screen: No

Teamplay Options
Friendly Fire: Off
Friendly Fire Penalty: None
Auto Team Balance: No
(InstaGib is exactly like this but without shields)


Slayer:
Game Rules:
Death Bonus: No
Kill In Order: No
Kill Penalty: No
Kills to Win: 25
Team Play: No
Time Limit: None

Player Options:
Number Of Lifes: Infinite
Maximum Health: 100%
Shields: Yes
Respawn Time: Instant
Respawn Time Growth: None
Odd Man Out: No
Invisible Players: No
Suicide Penalty: None

Item Options:
Infinite Grenades: No
Weapon Set: Normal
Starting Equipment: Generic

Vehicle Options:
No Vehicles (Team Slayer has vehicles)

Indicator Options
Objectives Indicator: Motion Tracker
Other Players On Radar: All
Friend Indicators On Screen: Yes

Teamplay Options
Friendly Fire: Off
Friendly Fire Penalty: None
Auto Team Balance: No


Pistols No Shields (Slayer):
Game Rules:
Death Bonus: No
Kill In Order: No
Kill Penalty: No
Kills to Win: 25
Team Play: No
Time Limit: None

Player Options:
Number Of Lifes: Infinite
Maximum Health: 100%
Shields: No
Respawn Time: Instant
Respawn Time Growth: None
Odd Man Out: No
Invisible Players: No
Suicide Penalty: None

Item Options:
Infinite Grenades: No
Weapon Set: Pistols
Starting Equipment: Generic

Vehicle Options:
No Vehicles

Indicator Options
Objectives Indicator: None
Other Players On Radar: No
Friend Indicators On Screen: No

Teamplay Options
Friendly Fire: Off
Friendly Fire Penalty: None
Auto Team Balance: No

(Shotguns No Shields is the same but with Shotguns instead of pistols)


King of the Hill:
Game Rules:
Moving Hill: No
Score To Win: 1 Minute
Team Player: No
Time Limit: None

Player Options:
Number Of Lifes: Infinite
Maximum Health: 100%
Shields: Yes
Respawn Time: Instant
Respawn Time Growth: None
Odd Man Out: No
Invisible Players: No
Suicide Penalty: None

Item Options:
Infinite Grenades: No
Weapon Set: Normal
Starting Equipment: Generic

Vehicle Options:
No Vehicles

Indicator Options
Objectives Indicator: Nav Points
Other Players On Radar: All
Friend Indicators On Screen: Yes

Teamplay Options
Friendly Fire: Off
Friendly Fire Penalty: None
Auto Team Balance: No


Oddball (Much different than default):
Game Rules:
Trait With Ball: Extra Damage
Trait Without Ball: None
Speed With Ball: Fast
Ball Type: Normal
Random Start: No
Ball Spawn Count: 1
Minutes/Points To Win: 2
Team Player: No
Time Limit: None

Player Options:
Number Of Lifes: Infinite
Maximum Health: 100%
Shields: Yes
Respawn Time: Instant
Respawn Time Growth: None
Odd Man Out: No
Invisible Players: No
Suicide Penalty: None

Item Options:
Infinite Grenades: No
Weapon Set: Normal
Starting Equipment: Generic

Vehicle Options:
No Vehicles

Indicator Options
Objectives Indicator: Nav Points
Other Players On Radar: None
Friend Indicators On Screen: Yes

Teamplay Options
Friendly Fire: Off
Friendly Fire Penalty: None
Auto Team Balance: No


All of the team gametypes are the same except with higher points to score or where it is noted above.





[Edited on 02.23.2011 6:57 AM PST]

  • 01.23.2011 8:19 AM PDT
Subject: Suggestions for a New Dedicated Server?
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Your Halo PC playlist is pretty good overall, but it's lacking CTF gametypes. Ice Fields is good for that IMO, and hey, you can never go wrong with Blood Gulch. Maybe add FFA/Team Snipers (or just regular deathmatch) on Hang 'Em High and you're all set.

I like your CE playlist for the most part as well, although I'd sort of like having CTF Precipice. I understand that map is pretty polarizing with the community, however, so you might want to get a few more opinions on that.

As for whether to do PC or CE, well, I don't really have too much of an opinion one way or another. I just bought the PC version of Halo a few months ago, so I've been doing a bit more Custom Edition since it's so new to me. You can't really go wrong with either, though.

  • 01.23.2011 9:41 AM PDT
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The Halo PC Playlist is a Slayer playlist (As mentioned in the actual post). It's not supposed to have Capture the Flag.

I completely forgot to add Hang 'Em High, thank you.

I'll add Precipice, but, I was mainly trying to go for a small/medium sized playlist for Halo Custom Edition since people believe that's been absent recently.

One thing I was thinking about, though, is if people would rather more Snipers or InstaGib (Snipers No Shields. Personally, I'd rather have InstaGib, but, if it's an overwhelming amount of people saying Snipers instead, then I'll do that.

Thank you for the input

  • 01.23.2011 9:56 AM PDT
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Posted by: Dr Syx
The Halo PC Playlist is a Slayer playlist (As mentioned in the actual post). It's not supposed to have Capture the Flag.

I completely forgot to add Hang 'Em High, thank you.

I'll add Precipice, but, I was mainly trying to go for a small/medium sized playlist for Halo Custom Edition since people believe that's been absent recently.

One thing I was thinking about, though, is if people would rather more Snipers or InstaGib (Snipers No Shields. Personally, I'd rather have InstaGib, but, if it's an overwhelming amount of people saying Snipers instead, then I'll do that.

Thank you for the input

Sorry about that, must have passed over that part about the Slayer-only playlist. Wasn't reading carefully enough, I guess.

I'd say maybe do a mix of both InstaGib and regular snipers, with the former on larger maps like Sidewinder and the latter on slightly smaller maps (should you choose to do any).

  • 01.23.2011 10:15 AM PDT
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I would rather do Pistols No Shields or Shotguns No Shields on the smaller maps. I might end up mixing it up, like you said, with Snipers and InstaGib in the larger maps.

  • 01.23.2011 10:20 AM PDT
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Yeah. That's right. I don't have a 50 in H3. I never got Onyx in Reach. If a game sucks too much, I won't even bother trying for such trivial "accolades". Besides, I've done way more things that take far more skill and talent than anything that can be done in a video game.

That's way too many no shields gametypes. We don't need more noob-friendly servers. We need servers with some solid skill-based gametypes.

  • 01.23.2011 11:36 AM PDT
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Posted by: DusK
That's way too many no shields gametypes. We don't need more noob-friendly servers. We need servers with some solid skill-based gametypes.
You are right about there being too many no shields gametypes, though, I do want to keep some. No shields Gametypes do take skill in Halo PC due to the lag. Having to lead your shots for the head shot in Pistols No Shields is what actually makes it a great game, in my opinion. Shotguns No Shields is just to have fun.

In the end, all I really care about is having fun. No shields gametypes are fun to me. I will take your advice and not go so heavy on them.

  • 01.23.2011 11:58 AM PDT
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More CTF, Team Oddball/King. Slayer (deathmatch) is Doom-era boring.

[Edited on 01.27.2011 5:52 PM PST]

  • 01.27.2011 5:51 PM PDT
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Posted by: n357
More CTF, Team Oddball/King. Slayer (deathmatch) is Doom-era boring.
It's meant to be a Slayer server... lol

You know what, never mind. You're completely right. There are too many Slayer servers on Halo PC. Going to change it up a bit.

[Edited on 01.27.2011 7:46 PM PST]

  • 01.27.2011 7:44 PM PDT
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Posted by: n357
More CTF, Team Oddball/King. Slayer (deathmatch) is Doom-era boring.


Seconded. Slayer in HPC is dull and over far too quickly.

CTF and assault CTF (with the whole attack/defend thing enabled) were the only gametypes I found worth playing.

Finally, servers that stick to one type seem to usually hold players' attention better than those that mix things up too much. Having an unpopular map/type combo is a good way to empty a server out. Infinity/anything was a classic for that.

  • 01.28.2011 3:42 AM PDT
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Posted by: Btcc22

Posted by: n357
More CTF, Team Oddball/King. Slayer (deathmatch) is Doom-era boring.


Seconded. Slayer in HPC is dull and over far too quickly.

CTF and assault CTF (with the whole attack/defend thing enabled) were the only gametypes I found worth playing.

Finally, servers that stick to one type seem to usually hold players' attention better than those that mix things up too much. Having an unpopular map/type combo is a good way to empty a server out. Infinity/anything was a classic for that.
That's why I didn't put Infinity into the mix and tried to keep it just under Slayer. I'll add in some Assaults. How about Battle Creek? I loved playing Assault there.

  • 01.28.2011 7:33 AM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
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50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.

I use a map vote system on mine, so people get to pick maps. Usually nothing empties my server too, as it's ce 1.00. Just set your version to 1.00, and it will fill up fast.

  • 01.28.2011 8:38 AM PDT
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Posted by: JacobGRocks
I use a map vote system on mine
I was going to ask about which extension I should use for my dedicated server for a voting system. Forgot to ask.

  • 01.28.2011 9:07 AM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.

Gandanur. XAP and SAPP are very primitive server patchers, and SAPP only has a dumb skip vote system.

I run 2 CE servers too, and my Gandanur servers are full a lot.

  • 02.10.2011 10:36 AM PDT
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Posted by: JacobGRocks
Gandanur. XAP and SAPP are very primitive server patchers, and SAPP only has a dumb skip vote system.

I run 2 CE servers too, and my Gandanur servers are full a lot.
The only problem with Gandanur that I've found with test server running is that I can't edit the Init after I've installed it. I like editing it in file form rather than editing in the actual program. Anyone know if there's a way around that in Gandanur?

  • 02.10.2011 11:55 AM PDT

We have enough default servers going. Either bring a fun, quirky custom game, or put in MLG settings.

  • 02.10.2011 2:25 PM PDT
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It's Halo PC. It doesn't need any MLG nonsense. That's what the console Halos are for.

What quirky gametypes could I put on Halo PC? The only thing I can think of is that weird version of Zombies that no one listens to the rules of.

By the way, these gametypes aren't completely default. They've been modified from the original gametypes to better suit what I like. I'll put up a description of each gametype later.

[Edited on 02.10.2011 2:38 PM PST]

  • 02.10.2011 2:32 PM PDT


Posted by: Dr Syx
It's Halo PC. It doesn't need any MLG nonsense. That's what the console Halos are for.

What quirky gametypes could I put on Halo PC? The only thing I can think of is that weird version of Zombies that no one listens to the rules of.

By the way, these gametypes aren't completely default. They've been modified from the original gametypes to better suit what I like. I'll put up a description of each gametype later.

It's been a while since I've touched the Halo 1 gametype customizer, but can't you just do silly things like Timberland + %300 movement + Shotguns? On second thought, it's crap netcode might not even allow for tolerable games like that.


But yeah, don't even bother with those Zombie gametypes.

  • 02.10.2011 4:27 PM PDT
Subject: Suggestions for a New Dedicated Server? Updated With Gametype Details
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Posted by: PufTheMgicDingo

Posted by: Dr Syx
It's Halo PC. It doesn't need any MLG nonsense. That's what the console Halos are for.

What quirky gametypes could I put on Halo PC? The only thing I can think of is that weird version of Zombies that no one listens to the rules of.

By the way, these gametypes aren't completely default. They've been modified from the original gametypes to better suit what I like. I'll put up a description of each gametype later.

It's been a while since I've touched the Halo 1 gametype customizer, but can't you just do silly things like Timberland + %300 movement + Shotguns? On second thought, it's crap netcode might not even allow for tolerable games like that.


But yeah, don't even bother with those Zombie gametypes.
There are no player speed options other than on Oddball, so, I could have a crazy Juggernaut gametype.

I did add Team Designated Target. It's a gametype I'm not even sure is on any other Halo and is not played that often.

[Edited on 02.10.2011 4:49 PM PST]

  • 02.10.2011 4:47 PM PDT
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Update: Added Team Designated Target on Blood Gulch and Hang 'Em High
Need feedback on whether or not Designated Target (AKA the Kill In Order game option) is something you enjoy playing.

[Edited on 02.16.2011 1:21 PM PST]

  • 02.16.2011 1:21 PM PDT

Looks like a pretty good playlist, I like how theres not very many objective types, those tend to get overplayed.

  • 02.17.2011 6:11 PM PDT
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Posted by: sargent shade
Looks like a pretty good playlist, I like how theres not very many objective types, those tend to get overplayed.
Same way I felt. That's the reason it is the way it is (:

  • 02.17.2011 6:12 PM PDT

I like ctf and everything, I just prefer slayer. and theres seems to be a good amount of CTF servers, so I don't know why people would want another one.

  • 02.17.2011 6:24 PM PDT
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Same. Blood Gulch CTF. It has always seemed like that's around 50% of the servers on Halo PC at the moment. Wanted to stay away from that. In fact, my original playlist didn't even have Blood Gulch in it. I decided that people probably still want it in there and it's not just myself I should consider. That's why I even added other gametypes other than Slayer. You have anything in mind I don't have on the list?

  • 02.17.2011 6:33 PM PDT

"It doesn't matter what I say, since Halo is already more popular than god!" - Zero Punctuation, Halo 3 review

anymap other than Blood Gulch would be nice :P

ps. any chance for race to mix things up?

  • 02.17.2011 10:35 PM PDT

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