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Subject: Security Risk! Mods please read! Achronos read!
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The Bungie.net login name Apple daga is a group Killer. He was taking over a group while I was talking to him on AIM and is currently taking over MBT(or so he says) the proof is below. He says he has had about 20 names on bungie.net and just made this one yesterday. HIs other name on Bungie.net(or at lease one of them is Halopooper)



emokid5112: ima bout to take oever a group
Caboose0360: really? Who?
emokid5112: il tell you after I take it over
emokid5112: hs just started it
emokid5112: i used trickery
Caboose0360: what group..I wont tell
emokid5112: eheheh
emokid5112: afer i take it oever
emokid5112: just a sec
Caboose0360: ok
emokid5112: hhhe
emokid5112: he gave me full admins
emokid5112: after one pm lol
Caboose0360: what a idiot
emokid5112: ok the group is ccalled WE hate shishka
Caboose0360: lol
emokid5112: I booted the owner of it]
Caboose0360: yep..
emokid5112: hehehe
emokid5112: awsomeness
Caboose0360: I bet
Caboose0360: I got a good group
emokid5112: hnmmm link?
Caboose0360: www.bungie.net/fanclub/blue117/GroupHome.aspx(My group)
emokid5112: is it new?
Caboose0360: no not really
Caboose0360: why do you ask?
emokid5112: Easier to take over
emokid5112: dubmasses when its small
Caboose0360: yeah. Well we have protection from those kinda things
emokid5112: o its ur group
emokid5112: I meant a grouop to take ove
Caboose0360: oh..hmm
emokid5112: I wouldn't try with a group I know
emokid5112: of
emokid5112: k
emokid5112: k
Caboose0360: you could join my group if you wish
emokid5112: do I get full admins?
Caboose0360: no
emokid5112: llol
Caboose0360: sorry you need to work to get there...and even if you did...well we have protection beyond your normal mind
emokid5112: sure.....
Caboose0360: we do
emokid5112: hahah u think I don't know how to hack?
emokid5112: those guys probally don't know how
emokid5112: U think I don't knowh ow to group kill?
Caboose0360: oh they know how.
emokid5112: I took over a 300 member group in one day before
Caboose0360: I know you know how.
Caboose0360: Its not hard to do(This is where I started to play along with him)^^
emokid5112: Yeah it isn't
emokid5112: k im on the member que
Caboose0360: anyway, if you want join. emokid5112: k
emokid5112: Im on the que
Caboose0360: ok I'll look
emokid5112: im a few known take overs
emokid5112: there names I won't say
emokid5112: we should all join a group and take it over maybe MBT.
Caboose0360: lol
Caboose0360: Apple daga..weird name
emokid5112: i made it yesterday
emokid5112: a new group killer name
Caboose0360: hmm..ok
Caboose0360: you should be in the group
emokid5112: give me a ran higher?
Caboose0360: not yet my friend(Not my friend anymore)
Caboose0360: work fo rit
emokid5112: k
Caboose0360: for*
Caboose0360: recrute some people then become a Sergeant
emokid5112: il take it over now.
Caboose0360: really? MBT?
emokid5112: il try lol
Caboose0360: Ok if you wish
Caboose0360: ao how many names have you had?
emokid5112: il just take over tons of new groups
emokid5112: secret ones
Caboose0360: ok
Caboose0360: just wanted a number guess
emokid5112: o ok
emokid5112: like 20
emokid5112: lol
Caboose0360: lol
Caboose0360: ever get caught?
emokid5112: nope
Caboose0360: ok
Caboose0360:What ya doin?
emokid5112:lookin for groups to take over
emokid5112:brb I'm chagin my IP address

As you can see he needs to be stopped and maybe an IP address ban like on LIVE. Well I hope you respond quickly, he was trying to take over MBT! HE also knows how to and does switch his IP address.

  • 12.07.2005 1:06 PM PDT

Maybe the founder should be more careful.

  • 12.07.2005 1:10 PM PDT
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I think your best bet is to PM a Master Ninja with details.

As for the "hacking" claim - don't worry. Achronos has stated that hacking the 7th Column is impossible, and I'm willing to pit the teasing of a silly child against that of a proven webmaster.

  • 12.07.2005 1:12 PM PDT
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Yes I know the founder should have been more careful but thats not the point. He CAN hack and is trying to take over groups. You should do something about this. Or if not you someother mod or maybe Achronos or Sketchfactor. It needs to be handled and not doing anything wont fix the problem.

Nothing is impossable to hack, anything can and will be hacked with todays technologly. And I just got done PMing Shishka and Achronos so hopefully something will be done.

[Edited on 12/7/2005]

  • 12.07.2005 1:13 PM PDT
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He CAN hack

Based on what? A claim he made?

Be realistic. If I contacted you on AIM and told you I was a top-secret Pentagon operative, would you believe that? Don't be so gullible with such people in future.

  • 12.07.2005 1:15 PM PDT

Posted by: Psyched
I think your best bet is to PM a Master Ninja with details.

We can't do anything - we have no control over the groups.

It's the founder's fault if he gives a twat some privileges that ends up with the group being taken over.

[Edited on 12/7/2005]

  • 12.07.2005 1:16 PM PDT
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You cant do anything..please. I'll never beleive that. So I guess we'll just get taken over and lose our groups...I guess its our fault.

And no I would not beleive you if oyu told me thatyour a Pentagon Official on AIM. The real question is would a Pentagon Official get on AIM? Answer=NO way.

Oh yeah almost forgot.

emokid5112:I guess I'll go get into Chapert Founders and the hack my way to the top. And attempt to take over...bye
Caboose0360:bye cya
emokid5112 signed off at 4:25:52 PM.

  • 12.07.2005 1:27 PM PDT
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Actually, goweb's correct. The moderators' duty does not extend beyond the main forums. They can remove members from the main forums, the person in question could well be blacklisted for owning multiple accounts, but they have absolutely no additional powers in groups (save those available to all). However, put frankly, I do not feel that CF is at any risk whatsoever.

  • 12.07.2005 1:35 PM PDT

Posted by: Mendez360
You cant do anything..please. I'll never beleive that. So I guess we'll just get taken over and lose our groups...I guess its our fault.

At last you understand.

If you take away one thing from this thread, make it this:

Don't give privileges to anyone you don't know.

  • 12.07.2005 1:35 PM PDT
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It wasent my group it was someone elses. And I do understand now..but..that above comment about you not being able to do anything..I was being sarcastic.

But anyway...thanks and I hope you blacklist him for having mulitable accounts.

  • 12.07.2005 1:40 PM PDT
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Only the paranoid will survive!

Having more then one account is not, as far as I know, against the rules. I believe that it's just heavily frowned upon. But I think that someone can get blacklisted for taking over groups.

And the mods can't do anything. Only Achronos can, and he only uses his power in very extreme cases. A kid lying about hacking the 7th column isn't very extreme.

Basically, I'll believe it once Chapter Founders is 'conquored'.

[Edited on 12/7/2005]

  • 12.07.2005 1:52 PM PDT
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Yeah I think that should be a new rule. No taking over of groups or you are perma-banned, or something like that.

  • 12.07.2005 1:59 PM PDT

Only Becausae I'm Awesome

Forum Tutorials --- WATCH THEM AND LEARN

If you're dumb enough to give some random stranger full admin controls just after the group has started, then you deserve it. Why would you be giving full admin to anyone in the first place? It's just not smart.

  • 12.07.2005 2:00 PM PDT
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This all happens when people get bored and are given promotions just for the sake of it.

Why would you EVER need more than 2 people with full powers anyway? And those 2 people should have "known" each other for at least as long as the group has been around for.

Like in MBT they're offering promotions to those who advertise the group - ok they would promotions with no extra capabilities, merely in name, but it shows how people think. You don't need to give dozens of people group powers.

And as someone else said I doubt an 8 yearold could win against a 40-something webmaster.

  • 12.07.2005 3:50 PM PDT

MY LOVE FOR YOU IS LIKE A TRUCK...
Posted by: Langley
--on another note, I think MLG Chewhatever is an idiot.

Posted by: Achronos
There is a reason I am user ID 1 and my account creation date is before this site came online.

Posted by: colonelkarnelno2
And as someone else said I doubt an 8 yearold could win against a 40-something webmaster.


Oh Achronos is going to be pissed at you for calling him "40-something". I'm pretty sure that he is no where near that old. ~B.B.

  • 12.07.2005 4:08 PM PDT
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That's the impression I got from his picture!

  • 12.07.2005 4:29 PM PDT
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Heh, 40 years old. Try 23.

But that was at a max like 3 years ago, so he's probably 25/26 now. Then again, he could always be lying to our faces.

  • 12.07.2005 4:48 PM PDT

Posted by: Mendez360
Caboose0360: what group..I wont tell

I find that line funny.

  • 12.07.2005 4:55 PM PDT
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Posted by: Excalibur
Heh, 40 years old. Try 23.

But that was at a max like 3 years ago, so he's probably 25/26 now. Then again, he could always be lying to our faces.



Hmmmm.....

  • 12.07.2005 5:05 PM PDT

It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us freedom of the press. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who has given us the freedom to demonstrate. It is the soldier, not the lawyer, who has given us the right to a fair trial. And it is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves the flag, whose coffin is draped in the flag that allows the protester to burn the flag.Father Dennis Edward O'Brien, USMC

Someone trys to take over MBT once a week

Halo Bug
Sonny Ferelli
Surf And Skate
Hunter
ItsMrSmiley
Milla Da killa

All people who made threats and never did anything


Only 2 people in MBT have full control
And im willing to give mine up at anytime the founder wishes

Just let it go,

The members of MBt no we are safe and discourage these witch hunts

[Edited on 12/7/2005]

  • 12.07.2005 5:07 PM PDT

yeah, this entire discussion is really pointless. i know that if i have the administrative controls over a group, unless i don't care about the group at all, i'm not giving up control. usually, i work hard to get it to where it is, and from the last 2 groups i've made, there hasn't been any reason to give up those controls. it would be stupid to do so.

hell, i applaud the guy for doing it. he's weeding out the bad groups...but then again, the original creators will just go and make another group, so nm.

  • 12.07.2005 5:55 PM PDT

Posted by: Mendez360
Yeah I think that should be a new rule. No taking over of groups or you are perma-banned, or something like that.

I can't be bothered to point out that permabans only affect the public forum.

  • 12.07.2005 6:11 PM PDT

Posted by: Great_Pretender
"You don't ask to be in mod club. Mod club asks to be in you."
Posted by: Great_Pretender
Bungie.net explodes. Try it at home, kids*!

*Kids, don't try it at home.
-TGP-

Posted by: Pimp at Sea
Basically, I'll believe it once Chapter Founders is 'conquored'.


I'm pretty sure that Achronos has the power to mess with all of the settings in groups, so I think that Chapter founders is quite safe no matter what happens.

  • 12.07.2005 6:12 PM PDT
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When I made my group, I was extremely careful with making my security roles just how I wanted them. There is only one person on these forums that I will ever even consider give full control to, and I probably won't do that anytime soon.

  • 12.07.2005 6:25 PM PDT

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Posted by: EAGLES5
and discourage these witch hunts


LoL, I had to post because that really made me laugh.

  • 12.07.2005 7:27 PM PDT

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