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Subject: Who are the precursors exactly "Spoilers"

In memory of those fallen in the defense of Earth and her colonies.

March 3, 2553

Cryptum has certainly raised more questions than answers, but thats a good thing. I cant wait for the other two.

  • 01.28.2011 1:14 PM PDT

By 'following in Their footsteps' I think Didact could have meant one of two possible things:

1. Become an inter-galactic civilization. Remember the Forerunner had decided they'd 'reached equilibrium' and didn't need to settle any more planets. The also made sure they were the most powerful empire in the galaxy. Thus, they were stalling evolution. This made the galaxy vulnerable to the Flood. If they spread out to other galaxies then they can ensure the Flood never achieves total victory (bit like Leto II's Golden Path in the Dune series)

2. Moved into higher-dimensions/slipspace. This is often talked about as a 'never-ending path' in various Haloverse texts, so it could be what the Great Journey is. Abandoning the physical world and becoming Gods/angels in higher dimensions.

of course the likelier explanation for the whole thing is that the Captive was just a specimen, and everything he said was just a human ploy/plant to mind**** the FascistRunners

[Edited on 01.28.2011 1:22 PM PST]

  • 01.28.2011 1:20 PM PDT

In memory of those fallen in the defense of Earth and her colonies.

March 3, 2553


Posted by: hotshot revan II

Posted by: drummer0702
Posted by: hotshot revan II
One thing is sure:he is a precursor


I couldn't disagree more. There is absolutely no conclusive evidence to point towards the prisoner actually being a Precursor.

You are right..if he really isn't then he could be another spacefaring civilzation rivaling the precursors

This get's intresting



My suspecion is that he is lying to gain something from the forerunners. I think what he told the humans may have been something along the lines of thier past, or perhaps what was going to happen to them in the future, being thier near extinction.

  • 01.28.2011 1:26 PM PDT


Posted by: hotshot revan II

Posted by: drummer0702
Posted by: hotshot revan II

Tier 0: Transsentient As the [Forerunners] had no examples of civilizations with technological accomplishment greater than themselves - with the exception of the Precursors - this is a theoretical ceiling. They can travel intergalactic and accelerate evolution of intelligent life. These may be creatures of legend.

It just says that "tier 0" is a theoritical ceiling,that's all.





Ya, that means they have no proof that they could do such a thing. The only tech they had available to them was what they found on planets within the galaxy. There was no conclusive proof that they could travel between galaxies; it was just a theory.


Most likely they can,just like the transentient thing.
If gravemind trully was a precursor then the precursors can never die(their mind)but their body could.

Wasn't that said by born that the mind and the universse were the same,that explains why gravemind never dies as he's probably a precursor.

*searches for book copy*


To point something out: Forerunners could travel intergalactically and inter-universally. Its just they never had an incentive to travel outside our galaxy. for any reason other then exploration

Why would the Precursors not settle other galaxies? They apparently can't die considering the Captive's age. So there'd be a massive population.

Then consider the Mantle dictates stewardship over the entire universe, not just one galaxy. And Neural Physics link the conscious mind with the universe itself.

There's too much evidence saying they were itergalactic to ignore.

  • 01.28.2011 1:59 PM PDT


Posted by: drummer0702
Posted by: hotshot revan II

You are right..if he really isn't then he could be another spacefaring civilzation rivaling the precursors

This get's intresting



My guess is it is the Gravemind or the thing that wiped out the Precursors from the Galaxy/Universe. They could also be one in the same.


case in point: it seems perfectly clear the Captive is to become the Mind. Notice how the Gravemind didn't seem present during the Human-Flood War? The Flood was more of a black plague-like virus rather then a universe-consuming super disease. It was still devastating, but not nearly as coordinated and deadly as it would be with the Gravemind in charge.

Hell, it lost. The Flood as we know it doesn't lose. It only forces a stalemate or wins.

  • 01.28.2011 2:05 PM PDT

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Posted by: hotshot revan II

Posted by: drummer0702
Posted by: hotshot revan II
Most likely they can,just like the transentient thing.
If gravemind trully was a precursor then the precursors can never die(their mind)but their body could.

Wasn't that said by born that the mind and the universse were the same,that explains why gravemind never dies as he's probably a precursor.

*searches for book copy*


I don't think it is very logical to assume the Gravemind is a Precursor. I was thinking it was going to be Gravemind the whole book, however, the description does not match up. Also, why would a Precursor trap itself in its own trap? It just doesn't make any sense.


Others came up with that theory and i think it's possible.And the precursors were the ones who locked up the captive,no one else could .

Note:When mendicant fired the ring near the planet ,the prisonor escaped i think it was 43 years before.Same year that gravemind and mendicant had their chat.

I think that the captive got infected by the flood and became their leader.I'm sure we will find out later.


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To point something out: Forerunners could travel intergalactically and inter-universally. Its just they never had an incentive to travel outside our galaxy. for any reason other then exploration

Why would the Precursors not settle other galaxies? They apparently can't die considering the Captive's age. So there'd be a massive population.

Then consider the Mantle dictates stewardship over the entire universe, not just one galaxy. And Neural Physics link the conscious mind with the universe itself.

There's too much evidence saying they were itergalactic to ignore.


Who said they are capable of getting to other Galaxies? Also, Forerunner don't die unless they are directly killed. It was said that they pretty much live forever because of their suits.

There is literally no evidence to say they were intergalactic. Please find this proof.

  • 01.28.2011 2:19 PM PDT

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