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Posted by: privet caboose
Ok, I'll be completely honest. I only read the first post. I didn't read the rest, not because it was too long, but because based on that post alone I assume you wanted to merely outcast everything 343's done because, "Bungie didn't do it." I may be wrong, but rather than waste 20 minutes reading a bunch more posts on a topic that I personally disagree with, I'll just say.
I understand the lengthiness, but I very much suggest that you privet, especially, read the rest. If I want this to be read by only five people, you are one of them. The policy itself does not, as a matter of definition, "outcast" 343's work. My process is so logical and methodical (which is a necessity due to the large conflict of opinion) it pays no regard to whether the canonical artifact was composed by Bungie or 343, excluding the Halo Trilogy, which does hold a special position. Now, I'm sure you think much better of 343 than I do, and given your history on this forum I have surmised that we are disposed to disagree over those specifics; however, to accept the policy itself is of utmost importance because it provides logically-sound structure to your arguments supporting an artifact of Halo Canon, 343 or Bungie authored. I just want us to be able to analyze parts of Canon and determine where they fit; this provide common standards and processes so I can prove you wrong in your specific argument for 343 whatever, and vice versa. I am just as happy to be persuaded as I am to persuade in the specific matters of canonical analysis. And I'm confused over how you say that you "disagree" with the topic; the topic is about this canon policy that I want to become a standard around here to end pointless arguments about canonicity relative to each person. What you seem to disagree with are the comments about my personal suspicions of 343, which is a fine discussion to have.
As of late, Bungie's works have been absolutely horrible
Granted, the quality has dropped below that of the Halo Trilogy. Without question. "...Halo Trilogy, assumes the most accurate and true canonical body published for the effect of this story and Idealism compared to that of supporting canon in their two most recent interactive graphical publications..." That does not nullify this policy. Your criticism of ODST is a bit exaggerated, however I would be foolish to dismiss the apparent inconsistencies between Reach and the established canon, which I must admit are great. This policy discusses what is to be done about that.
Now, what has 343i done recently?
Halo Evolutions: Arguably the best Halo novel. Tons of stories. TONS of things explained to us for the time. Interesting stories, and new opportunities opened up to us. (Such as SIII headhunters)
Halo Cryptum: An amazing book. Details the Forerunner history in an amazing way people have been asking for, for years. The book handles everything perfectly, and although some canon regarding the terminals was broken, the book handles these breaks as it says things we've been told before aren't the entire truth.
Those two canonical artifacts are the two best published by 343, and likely the only two which I find acceptable. I judge that Halo Legends outweighs these largely good things... but that is a different argument. This policy does not exclude automatically things that come from 343 any more than it does Bungie, with the exception of the Halo Trilogy. It even acknowledges the fact that there very well may be true canon found in things like Legends.
I would much rather take 343's canon over what Bungie's done recently. They practically ruined the entire Halo canon with Reach. 343's left with the mess to clean up on their own.
That's just my opinion on this matter. My apologies if this isn't what the thread was about.
One of my key points is that you don't pick and choose ("take") a canon. There is one True Halo Canon that we must find. If I talk more about this... I'll just be rewriting what I've already written. Please read this; the entire reason I wrote it was because I am continually pained by statements like this: "They practically ruined the entire Halo canon with Reach." No matter what Reach was, regardless of all retcons/inconsistencies, this statement of yours cannot be true and is the exact mentality I hope to deter, most of all, with this. Please give it a read and show me how I'm wrong, so can either accept your view or correct yours.