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Subject: What's your favorite anime show?
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Posted by: finalwaltz
Neon Genesis Evangelion.


They're making digitally remastered new edition dvd, comes with NERV parking permit sticker... sweetness.

oh and all other anime can kiss my ass

  • 08.22.2004 10:38 PM PDT
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Posted by: Spartan 1337
You guys need to get out of adult swim anime and go dl some for yourself


you need to watch more t.v.
computers are evil

  • 08.22.2004 10:40 PM PDT
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Posted by: Surge
Posted by: Spartan 1337
You guys need to get out of adult swim anime and go dl some for yourself


Don't DL it, just go buy it. I don't own one peice of illegitimate anime.
-blam!- freeloaders.

One Peice, ironically, is another awesome show.


fan subs arent illegal you idiot

  • 08.22.2004 10:52 PM PDT
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Do you legitimately own it? No. Did you get it for free? Yes. In the real world, this is called 'breaking the law.'

If you can't wait for an NA release, import it. If it doesn't come with an english track, THEN get the fansub. Think hard about before you make rediculously false assumtions and accusations you pugnacious moron.

  • 08.22.2004 11:25 PM PDT
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Posted by: Surge
Do you legitimately own it? No. Did you get it for free? Yes. In the real world, this is called 'breaking the law.'



If media has not been licensed in the United States, than that media is not recognized by U.S. law, hence unlicensed fansubs are totally legal for download.

edit: If/When the media is licensed however, than anything you downloaded beforehand is now illegal to keep.

[Edited on 8/22/2004 11:32:48 PM]

  • 08.22.2004 11:31 PM PDT
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True, but It's still technically illegal. It's easy enough to import them. Hell, I have two import FMA dvds and they all have full english subs.

[Edited on 8/22/2004 11:40:15 PM]

  • 08.22.2004 11:39 PM PDT
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Posted by: Surge
True, but It's still technically illegal. It's easy enough to import them.


If the fansubbers were making money, or getting the media from something they had to purchase i.e. a DVD, then I would agree with you. However, the vast majority of fansubbed anime is taken from aired TV, which is more or less free, considering that the service providing the TV is the only fee being paid for, and most people do not have the resources available to import Japanese television stations, and very rarely to my knowledge are such stations broadcast with English subtitles.

  • 08.22.2004 11:44 PM PDT
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Posted by: ajenteks
However, the vast majority of fansubbed anime is taken from aired TV, which is more or less free, considering that the service providing the TV is the only fee being paid for, and most people do not have the resources available to import Japanese television stations, and very rarely to my knowledge are such stations broadcast with English subtitles.


You know what I mean when I say import them. Very few series run without getting a dvd treatment, fewer still without english subs. Those ones are fair game, but any remotely desirable franchise yet to be lisenced in NA is still someone's intellectual property. The lines between our arguments is getting a bit hazy, as is inevitable regarding all matters of international law., so I'm going to have to end this.
You are indeed correct in the sense that it is legal in NA and little is really lost (to a degree), but I stand by my conviction that it is as immoral as music piracy when you could spend a little extra and not deny the creators compensation on something that may never reach these shores.
And truthfully, if anime like Naruto did ever make it here, would you still buy it after watching the sub?

  • 08.23.2004 12:00 AM PDT
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Posted by: Surge

And truthfully, if anime like Naruto did ever make it here, would you still buy it after watching the sub?


I bought Hellsing, Noir, Witch Hunter Robin, and am buying GITS: SAC after seeing the fansubs(or most of them in the case of SAC) before-hand. I won't buy Naruto though, because I really don't like it in the least.

  • 08.23.2004 12:12 AM PDT
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Hmmm hard choice...

I am a complete anime nut, Love it!!!

I have to say I have a group I equally Like...

Cowboy Bebop (Space + Mafia + Classic Bounty Hunting Action = Sweeeetneeesss)

Serial Experiments: Lain (A real horror series for nerds, never looked at other "users" on-line in the same way again.... "I'm talking to dead people!")

Trigun (There is better stuff out-there, but the relationships of the characters make soap operas look like playschool... brilliant drama)

Neon Genesis Evangelion (What can I say? Best Anime of the 90's, top storyline.)

I may have spelt them wrong as I havent seen any of them for a while.



[Edited on 8/23/2004 12:19:58 AM]

  • 08.23.2004 12:18 AM PDT

-S

Am currently watching: Gunslinger Girls
Am currently wishing: All little girls the best of luck in their lives.

Samurai Champloo is bad ass. FLCL is one of my personal favorites. X/1999 is one of my absolute favorites as well. So is Escaflowne (ESPECIALLY Escaflowne). Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex makes up for the 2nd rate GITS movie that came out several years ago.

Also noteworthy that I didn't notice mentioned above:

Scrapped Princess
Vandread
Stellvia of the Universe
Chobits
Haibane Renmei
Hikaru No Go

Edit- Eva, in my opinion, is grossly overrated. I personally feel that people who call it their favorite do so because they haven't experienced much else.

[Edited on 8/23/2004 12:29:53 AM]

  • 08.23.2004 12:29 AM PDT

I'll be on my own side.

i like FLCL and Naruto. im not finished with either series,so ill finish those before i move on to others

  • 08.23.2004 12:32 AM PDT
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Posted by: Shishka
Edit- Eva, in my opinion, is grossly overrated. I personally feel that people who call it their favorite do so because they haven't experienced much else.


Very true. My feelings exactly.

I didn't find Innocence to be that bad, though. Granted, I didn't understand much of it, but it was still enjoyable.

[Edited on 8/23/2004 12:34:36 AM]

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Posted by: Shishka
Am currently watching: Gunslinger Girls
Am currently wishing: All little girls the best of luck in their lives.

Samurai Champloo is bad ass. FLCL is one of my personal favorites. X/1999 is one of my absolute favorites as well. So is Escaflowne (ESPECIALLY Escaflowne). Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex makes up for the 2nd rate GITS movie that came out several years ago.

Also noteworthy that I didn't notice mentioned above:

Scrapped Princess
Vandread
Stellvia of the Universe
Chobits
Haibane Renmei
Hikaru No Go

Edit- Eva, in my opinion, is grossly overrated. I personally feel that people who call it their favorite do so because they haven't experienced much else.


I've seen most of those, I have to agree with you... the older Ghost in the Shell movies were lacking in some areas. Crobits proved to be, um... interesting, falling in love with a robot? it can happen.

(By the way I liked Eva just for the storyline, all the other stuff about it was plain...)

[Edited on 8/23/2004 12:37:01 AM]

  • 08.23.2004 12:36 AM PDT

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Posted by: Surge
I didn't find Innocence to be that bad, though. Granted, I didn't understand much of it, but it was still enjoyable.


Haven't seen it yet. I was referring to the first Ghost in the Shell movie. The one based on the original manga. God, when did that movie come out? 95, or something.

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Posted by: Shishka
Haven't seen it yet. I was referring to the first Ghost in the Shell movie. The one based on the original manga. God, when did that movie come out? 95, or something.


Ah, it wasn't that bad. It lacked the original's psycho -blam!- orgies but it had it's moments. It did feel like a bit too much like Akira though.
SAC, while a bit tame, is definately better.

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Posted by: Shishka
Posted by: Surge
I didn't find Innocence to be that bad, though. Granted, I didn't understand much of it, but it was still enjoyable.


Haven't seen it yet. I was referring to the first Ghost in the Shell movie. The one based on the original manga. God, when did that movie come out? 95, or something.


I saw the first Ghost in the Shell because I wread it was good in a magazine... I didn't think it was THAT good, I guess some people "like" manga chicks "too much", Yeah, well I have a social life thankyou... at least "I'm" not "suffering" if you know what I mean. ;)

  • 08.23.2004 12:41 AM PDT

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Posted by: CommanderFox
Crobits proved to be, um... interesting, falling in love with a robot? it can happen.


Think that's weird? Watch Onegai Twins.

  • 08.23.2004 12:41 AM PDT

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Posted by: Surge
Ah, it wasn't that bad. It lacked the original's psycho -blam!- orgies but it had it's moments. It did feel like a bit too much like Akira though.
SAC, while a bit tame, is definately better.


It's a complete unjustice to the manga it tries to summarize.

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Posted by: Shishka
It's a complete unjustice to the manga it tries to summarize.


Definately, but that doesn't mean it's a terrible film on it's own, though. It's all about context.

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Posted by: Shishka
Posted by: CommanderFox
Crobits proved to be, um... interesting, falling in love with a robot? it can happen.


Think that's weird? Watch Onegai Twins.


I don't think I herd of Onegai Twins... Maybe I'll just buzz over to MadMan.com to look it up.

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I love Ranma 1/2. Thats what got me into anime. I own the first 5 seasons.

Other good animes include:

FLCL
Inuyasha
Urusei Yatsura
Steel Angel Kurumi
Digi Charat

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NGE, love it or hate it, is a starting point for many into anime, and will probably be looked back upon with feelings of nostalgia. After watching something like RahXephon though, it's clear that NGE could have been done much better.

Personally though, I love the concept that we are not what Christian religion assumes we are.

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An't we all forgetting the king of anime fighter jet dogfighting mad coolness with a cherry on top!

I forgot to mention MACROSS, brillant oldie from the 80's...

Love RoboTech, Live RoboTech, Watch RoboTech!

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Posted by: ajenteks
NGE, love it or hate it, is a starting point for many into anime, and will probably be looked back upon with feelings of nostalgia. After watching something like RahXephon though, it's clear that NGE could have been done much better.

Personally though, I love the concept that we are not what Christian religion assumes we are.


I'm not a fan of NGE's mecha designs. A bit too...icky. And anything that contradicts an established beleif system is great in my eyes.

"I WANT TO BE KING OF PIRATE!"

heehee, sorry, watching One Peice. ^_^

  • 08.23.2004 12:54 AM PDT

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