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Subject: UNFAIR BANNING- YOUR THOUGHTS PLEASE
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Right, as a regular player i am a tad disgruntled at being unfairly banned from 3 servers now,
the reason, i have been betrayed by certain players, so i betrayed them back and instantly banned from the server, do you think this is fair, i certainly dont as i was only retaliating back at these betrayers.

Please leave your thoughts on this matter



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  • 12.10.2005 10:52 AM PDT
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kindly ask the host to ban the offending player rather than retaliating and getting banned yourself : )

  • 12.10.2005 11:10 AM PDT
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No not realy but don't betray them back! You probably will get booted, just tell the host.

  • 12.10.2005 11:24 AM PDT
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lol if the host is on your side tell the host to betray the betrayers a bunch of times then ban them =P

thats what i do to dumb betrayers befor i ban them...

  • 12.10.2005 2:33 PM PDT
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haha thats funny ya just dont betray them back but stay in there face that way they get banned and not you

  • 12.10.2005 6:37 PM PDT
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That sort of happend to me quite a few times,

Only in my case the host is the one betraying me then saying "i'm banning you for betraying". I never betray intentionaly (spelling error?), also i hate it when you kill someone that has active camo and they call you a cheater. I've been banned about 25-50 times for either killing someone with active camo or killing the host more then 5 times.

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  • 12.10.2005 10:19 PM PDT
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the host that ban you for killing them i hate the most...they cant stand the idea that there is someone better than them out there.

But heres is a hint to make u un kick able and un banable.

make a new file and in its name have this sybol ~

as u may know in order to ban someone you have to bring upp this little file thing by pressing the ~ key once and to get rid of it u press it again. well when they are tryping your name in the will have to spell it out the same way and once they press the ~ key to make the ~ in your name it will shut off that file. this makes u unable to be booted unless the host uses the IP ban but no one uses it cuz it takes to long.

but plz do not use this method to go around and betray and cheat so you wont get ban.

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  • 12.11.2005 12:00 AM PDT
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Posted by: Wildkyle1990
the host that ban you for killing them i hate the most...they cant stand the idea that there is someone better than them out there.

But heres is a hint to make u un kick able and un banable.

make a new file and in its name have this sybol ~

as u may know in order to ban someone you have to bring upp this little file thing by pressing the ~ key once and to get rid of it u press it again. well when they are tryping your name in the will have to spell it out the same way and once they press the ~ key to make the ~ in your name it will shut off that file. this makes u unable to be booted unless the host uses the IP ban but no one uses it cuz it takes to long.

but plz do not use this method to go around and betray and cheat so you wont get ban.



Couldent they just use number banning?.

  • 12.11.2005 2:58 AM PDT
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yeah i got unfairly banned from a server (but i got back in using a different profile)
it was annoying because i was trying to use the gun on a warthog an (i'll name the name here so every be aware of this noob) (ME) KING kept on betraying me and because it was one of the Bungie ones i got autobanned just for killing him 2 times. he got out of the auto ban because each time he betrayed some one he would quit and come back in a second later on the same team so he kept on betraying me

  • 12.11.2005 4:06 AM PDT
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on that last 1 i say switch teams dude really switch teams! and if you cant switch teams leave the server it must suck!

  • 12.11.2005 6:11 AM PDT
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yeah i got unfairly banned from a server (but i got back in using a different profile)
it was annoying because i was trying to use the gun on a warthog an (i'll name the name here so every be aware of this noob) (ME) KING kept on betraying me and because it was one of the Bungie ones i got autobanned just for killing him 2 times. he got out of the auto ban because each time he betrayed some one he would quit and come back in a second later on the same team so he kept on betraying me


Gah!!!,

(ME)=KING has to be the most hated halo pc player in the world.I've played with him quite a few times, I say If you see (ME)=KING or anybody else that TK's just quit and come back at a later time or find a different server.

  • 12.11.2005 12:38 PM PDT
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yeah, well i tried going back to the servers that banned me using, a different profile, but the message, 'the operator has banned you from the server', just kept coming up, how do i speak to the operators to get unbanned??

  • 12.12.2005 3:19 AM PDT
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Interesting topic. I have been banned too for using cliffs in some situations. However I do not like that sniping at other gamers, so I avoid it now. But I am concerned about the banning of a player who is respectful to others, and playing for his team as hard as he can. Is it true that when you are good you can be banned by the other team? That would be very tiresome.

This issue is particularily relevant to the newcomers who are getting sniped to death, and most often abandon the ship. Too bad.

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  • 12.12.2005 3:58 AM PDT
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Heh, i know cortana i have played with him once. Strange that is as there are so many servers. Speaking of which why are there n servers available atm? is it just me

  • 12.12.2005 10:16 AM PDT

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Bottom line guys do not TK even in retaliation. If I get TKed I check to see why and also ask if there is an admin on the server. If there is an admin they will usually pay attention and take action. If no admin and the TK was definately intentional I harass the player by shooting them to get their attention and then shooting around them but not killing them. They usually retailiate and kill me getting themselves a betrayal. Repeat until they get 4 betrayals. If they haven't disappeared by then Auto TK is probably turned off. Then I TK them until they leave or I get bored. If they leave and rejion to reset the TK's then just leave or switch teams.

  • 12.12.2005 10:38 AM PDT
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You think ME=King is a bad TKer? Have you ever met Swiftoak! He is even worse. He cheats and TKs at basically every server he goes to. He tks 3 times and goes back on and Tk 3 more times, then he does that over and over again. Anyone else know him. He's a noob. Usually hangs on Bungie servers from what I know. Someone ban him so he only plays on noob servers where he belongs.

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  • 12.12.2005 2:11 PM PDT
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So reasons for being banned are:

- Player kills another player of the same team (treason kill) at least several times;
- Player is not respecting rules of behaviour (insults, etc.)
- Player is cheating

I would like to know if a player can be banned for low bandwidth. I am living in a retired place and there is no DSL at hand, only ISDN. Could this be a reason for banishment? I think it is unfair, but perhaps it does affect overall gaming performance?

Thanks for any informative answer about this subject.

  • 12.13.2005 4:52 AM PDT
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Do unto others as you would to yourself.

Follow the damned golden rule man! :P

  • 12.13.2005 6:51 AM PDT
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Thank you Mr B for sharing your thoughts.

I have been playing HALO for about two years now, and just discovered the intense competition of online combat. The experience is very different from the campaign mode for the variety of situations, and of human reactions to combat stress.

This being said I am a bit disappointed with some players who really bend the rules by using all the hidden features of maps, and keep appearing in locations most appropriate to them. This is something which does not really bring enjoyment to the newcomer. But this is only my opinion.

The other surprise is that in some games like CTF you score for flags, and kills, but not for survival rate, or for cooperative gameplay, in particular for supporting the guys who get the flag. Being a military I have some trouble with this kind of philosophy. I think that the calculation of ranking should take into account performance and cooperative capabilities.

Reading your post it appears that there are BUNGIE servers and other proprietary ones. Unfortunately it is not so easy to make a choice, especially when you have low bandwidth, and I do not know where to look for the Bungie dedicated servers, where you are not banished for playing hard, but fair.

Also there is a big lack in communication in multiplayer. Mostly teasing and loughing at other guys is not really up to the level HALO deserves.

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  • 12.13.2005 9:20 AM PDT

Posted by: Nessy

The bungie.net community is the halo PC community that is renowned for being unbelieveably sucky.

Gah!!!,

(ME)=KING has to be the most hated halo pc player in the world.I've played with him quite a few times, I say If you see (ME)=KING or anybody else that TK's just quit and come back at a later time or find a different server.
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The trick to dealing with Me=King is to beat him at his own game. TK him over and over again, quit to avoid auto-ban, rejoin the game, tk him tk him etc...

He usually gets sick of someone tking him and often leaves.

As for unfair banning, I too have been banned from one server in particular by IP. It was not an auto-ban, it was one of the members getting tired of me owning all of them. It's been about a year- and I'm still banned.
Private servers can do what they want, I guess, if you get banned, it may be unfair, but there isn't anything you can do really.
Public-ish servers like Bungie need to make their auto-ban system more strict. (which I noticed are down today :( )

  • 12.13.2005 12:29 PM PDT
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If the appropriate person or person's could see some of these threads, you would think they would have all the evidence to ban this -blam!-. But of course they can't cause the Bungie servers are not supported or monitered. Why would you not check stuff out once in a while on your OWN servers? I'm not saying on a constent basis. Let's say once every 3 -blam!- months. Is it really that big of a deal? It's like leaving your home pc online and leaving for a vacation for 4 years.

I think Bungie servers are far the best to play for bandwidth. There's not too many servers out there that can support 16 players with little lag.

I think one of the excuses was funding for something like this, when they are so busy with other projects. Ok, that is understandable, if they were running the whole show out of somebody's basement with two employees! But that's not the case here. We are talking about Bungie and M$.

I have noticed increased inquiries on this forum about more people buying Halo 1 for their pc, and have heard about all the hype with CE, Hek, etc....Which is good! Too bad they don't see it the same way. Granted the pc does not outsell the 360, but it shows potential in the pc market.

All this rambling about politic's when it would all stop with a little support, for the game that was originally intended for the pc.

One last thing for the forum mods, don't trip on the post. I understand this issue is out of your hands.

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  • 12.13.2005 12:34 PM PDT
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Very well put nod, i applaud your ethics and way of thinking matey, if only more people had the courage of their convictions the world would be a more peaceful place to live!!

  • 12.14.2005 1:35 AM PDT

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