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CoD is a good game, even if the Halo series are better in some aspects. Anyone who insults either is just bad in that game. Grow up.
Posted by: OrderedComa
I totally care about how logically things fit together, that's why I actually try to come up with solutions to how things work out, and which is why I don't believe the canon is destroyed. I, however, do not hyper-analyze what does not need to be analyzed, if you hyper-analyze everything, then you'll find things to complain about all the time. Something I've noticed quite a few of the people in this forum do, namely the people like Privet Caboose claiming that Reach completely destroyed all of Halo's canon.
Except you simply choose to ignore what logic would say about the changes made to the timeline. As I've said many times, the canon can be distorted to fit, but that doesn't change the fact that things in the new story don't make sense. You don't seem to understand what the butterfly effect does in terms of this, so I'll point it out. The original Fall of Reach lasted one single day. In the game, the major conflicts lasted over 2 weeks, 4, if you count the scouting parties. As described in the novel, within hours, three Spartans blew up a Covenant cruiser and destroyed over 10000 covenant forces in the area.
Logic then dictates that they would have done so as soon as covenant presence is discovered. Instead, the only people that seems to be fighting were Noble Team, where the hell where the Spartan II during the first 2 weeks? Did ONI decide to keep their best and most effective anti-Covenant asset in the dark just so the world doesn't panic? That doesn't make sense, the Spartans were made for things like these.
I see nothing flawed about it, except you claiming it to be so, Hyper-Lethal is not relative, we know what exactly Chief can do, and he is the only other Spartan with that rating, so we therefore know how Six compares to the other Spartans. If Six is Hyper-Lethal, and the other Hyper-Lethal Vector is Master Chief we have enough information to accurately compare Six.
1st flaw, it was never mentioned in any other source, and being that it is in a trailer, it has nearly the lowest canon rating, if you can even call advertising "canon".
2nd flaw, if Kelly, Fred, Will, Kurt, or even Linda have all demonstrated that they are in fact more capable than John in combat situations, since that is their specialty, then how is it possible that there is only one other person (aside from six)who's rated as Hyper-Lethal? Hyper lethal to what? Grunts?
Master Chief is the best Spartan, there is a reason he always placed top in the exercises the Spartans performed, and this is stated in the BOOKS which you seem to hold in god-like awe and seem to believe are the supreme and only accurate authority for Halo canon.
He is not. I suggest you read the novel again, and in fact it is strongly implied in the novels that he knows he is not, he himself called Linda the strongest (or toughest, I'm not sure) Spartan II, because she is the most independent Spartan II ever created. And yeah, I hold the novels to a high regard because the novels can actually tell a good story, and that's all I care about, games are made to create an experience, and Halo reach failed to do so for the ultimate potential they had with the Fall of Reach. Sure, I'll have some fun with the MP from time to time, but that's neither here nor there.
I never implied that they sucked at what wasn't their special field, but they will not perform as well in a different combat role than where their combat skill lies, Linda is the perfect example, as I already pointed out, she will exceed in a brawl, she is a Spartan II, as you pointed out they were bred for combat, but she still would not perform as well in a direct combat situation than sniping, she doesn't have what it takes to perform such feats as Chief, Fred, Kelly, or Sam in a large scale CQC fight.
Noble Team are different though, there is a reason they were pulled from their companies before they ever went to fight and why they were given an early variant of the Mark V Mjolnir armor. They are Spartan II material and if there had been a second class of SIIs then Noble would probably have been in said hypothetical class 2 if the SII program had not been replaced.
The first part, I'll give you some credit, but the 2nd is hilarious. True, Linda will not be as effective in CQC when compared to Kelly or Fred, but MC has proven time and again that he's simply incredibly lucky. (again, plot device) Spartan IIs are trained the same in that they're made to be top soldiers, and they are ALL equally effective, simply in different ways. And here, logic speaks again. If sniping is her top skill set, why would she get into a CQC fight? If you think every Spartan II is like Jorge as he's portrayed in game, then you have a hell of a misconception.
Again, define hyper-lethal with facts to support it, so I can actually have something to consider.
Now, onto Noble Team...Are you serious? Jorge aside, the Spartan IIIs are idiots. Carter is supposed to be the leader, but what did he really do in terms of "leading"? Kat was actually the one who came up with Operation Uppercut, Carter was simply the highest ranked member on the team, and receive orders from their superiors.
Kat is retarded in so many ways, some already mentioned in other threads, but the most of all is the way she died. Sure, it can happen, but that is a horrible death, and honestly, when a Spartan is running, they should be so fast that they CANNOT be hit easily, much less a straight up headshot. It's not like the Covenant was using a fully automatic needler cannon; it was one single shot from the zealot. Oh, and the entire Noble team does not notice this huge drop ship on top of them, nice.
I have spoken many times about Emile, but I'll rephrase it this time. Noble team members were pulled before their respective suicide missions because they were gauged to be somewhat equal to the Spartan IIs; However, Emile's death just showed extreme character flaw and how did that get past the screening to join the supposed most elite Spartan III team?
I won't comment on Jun and six because there isn't much to go on, and I'd just be biased on how Bungie fked up their portrayal. Either way, Noble team is a joke.