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Subject: Need help in Legendary: PoA and Look Sensitivity
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Yay!! I'm finally in Legendary. Now... how to get out?

I have 2 questions:

1.) I'm in PoA, at the stairs with Covenant on the landing above, where you have to fight your way up to the landing. I've tried staying low and eliminating them from below, and also charging up the stairs at the very beginning. The second option seems to hold more promise: out of twenty attempts I've made it to a breathing spot twice, with most/all of the defenders on the landing eliminated; but both times I've died before getting to a checkpoint. By staying downstairs I've died everytime. I have a plasma pistol at about 80%, M6D with over 110 rounds, 2 plasma grenades and (I think) 1 frag. A benefit of charging up the stairs is that I often collect 2 more frags on the way up. I've read some walkthroughs, but they are very thin on tactics for this part. How do you guys suggest I do it?

2.) I played Normal on a "Look speed" of 3, and Heroic on 5. For Legendary, I set sensitivity to 7. Is this too high? I thought 5 was too high on Heroic, but quickly got used to it. I've heard that a higher speed is better on the harder levels, except for sniping; but I noticed, while storming up to the landing, that I had a herd time keeping a bead on a grunt, even though he was only 10 feet away. Should I give myself time to grow accustomed to this setting, or move it down; and what setting do YOU use on Legendary?

Thank you, in advance, for your advice.

  • 08.23.2004 7:50 AM PDT
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I usually play with a sensitivity speed of 4-5 and you should charge up the stairs, throw your grenades (preferably in the direction of the elites) and then fire over charged plasma pistol shots on the elites with shields, then finish them with 1 shot from the pistol, then just wipe up the grunts.

  • 08.23.2004 8:54 AM PDT
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i just charge with ither the plasma pistol or the plasma rifle and with the plasma pistol you charge it up hit and elite and use rapid fire on the plasma pistol if you have a quick trigger finger,that always works for me

  • 08.23.2004 9:44 AM PDT
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YES I get to help! these other guys advice wasnt as in-dpeth as mine will be. NURR (you dont what NURR means. HA HA HA!)

ok,run up the stairs with a plasma pistol overcharge shot ready,turn RIGHT once get up the stairs and hit the elite with the charge shot. then pop him with the pistol in the head. run into the next room and let ur shields recharge,then come out and stick the elites with plasma grenade. mop up the grunts with pistol headshots. once the upper walkway is clear then look down the kill covies down there ( Plasma pistol/pistol).

In the next room you should just throw a plasma grenade or two down hallway next to the grunts,the elites should be killed by 'nades. keep going and turn right in the dark room. pop the grunts heads and then use plasma pistol/pistol on the elites in the next room.

CHECKPOINT.

look sensitivity should be whatever your used to. i would try a 6.

  • 08.23.2004 10:01 AM PDT
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With all due respect, 'I Kill Grunts', by the time he has attempted that manuveur you had advised him, he'd already be dead. Depending on the number of Elites there are on the 'landing above you', this can take quite a while, depending on the tactics players employ. For example:

1. Cautious/cover style: Basically stay on the lower levels, horde the plasma guns and grenades from the reinforcements that are bound to come in from the West side of the entrance. Use the plasma weapons as a long range weapon. Just strafe to cover when your shields take a beating. NOTE: Takes a LONG time. NOT guaranteed to allow you to emerge victorious without taking damage(this is due to your reactive timings in the strafe manuveurs)

2. John-117 Style: What the others said - go in, charge up and NEVER stop moving. Switch weapons, throw grenades, melee attack, jump. You are guaranteed to take damage here, BUT, knowing that I have done this on numerous occassions WITHOUT taking damage, it may well be a matter of luck.

3. WIMP Style: I wouldn't recommend this manuveur, ESPECIALLY since you are playing Legendary. Just think about it....You think you're skilled, and you OPTED for THIS tactic?!! Anyway, as the style implies, you're a wimp, and what does a wimp do? They run..that's right, run PAST the marines, jump over the hordes of covenant, and hope you can get a checkpoint AFTER you managed to run past ANOTHER contingent of Covenant forces. NOTE: I've NEVER tried this myself, I should probably call this style the 'Wimpy Suicide' style, but, hey..if you want to conserve ammo, that's what you gotta do...

BTW, the amount of ammo you got, reasonably, but not assault-type of weapons. No wonder you're getting ripped apart by Covenant. Recommend you get yourself better weapons, like a Plasma Rifle, or at least an MA5B Assault rifle. (Yes, I know, plasma pistol charges up and wipes out their shield, Blah blah blah...Fact is, without the Assault rifle, you're a sitting duck...) Well...that's all I can think of now, but, you know,...I think by the time you've read this, you've already went past it...

In relation to look sensitivity, I used to play on 3...and then decided to tinker with the settings and set it at 5...Never thought I'd needed anything above that...but, given what the others are recommending, it wouldn't hurt to try 6, or 7.

  • 08.23.2004 12:26 PM PDT
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Thanks, guys! Based on BeefySleet's and I KILL GRUNTS' answers, I'm going to set my sensitivity back down a notch, to 6.

Duh. All three of you caught me on this one: I forgot all about overcharge on the pp, and the overcharge/M6D combo. I have been charging up the stairs with the M6D blazing away, since it's the most powerful weapon I have and I have plenty of ammo for it. But I have been getting thumped by the elites, who seem to be able to close on me and cave my skull in before I can get off enough shots to kill 'em. Guess the M6D, though very versatile, is not a panacea.

Also, I didn't realize you could hide for long in that little alcove opposite the top of the stairs.

So, let me see if I got you right on the first part, I KILL GRUNTS: Up the stairs, with pp on overcharge as I near the top (call this the 12 o'clock position). IGNORE the grunt near the top of the stairs. Turn RIGHT (that grunt may be standing on my toes, now), and release the overcharge on the elite, who should be at about 2 to 5 o'clock, and finish him with the M6D. Continue circling the landing clockwise to 6 o'clock and duck into the alcove, which is at the head of the hallway I will take just a bit later. Come back out to stick the elites and M6D the grunts.

Now, how about that room on the upper landing at 9 o'clock, that is stuffed with elites and grunts; and the one below at 3 o'clock, with one grunt and elite: Are the doors on timers or is there some other trigger based on what I do? When I go up the stairs and turn LEFT, I am able (if I survive long enough) to slide a plasma through the opening door of the 9 o'clock room, and neutralize the entire room of reinforcements (2-3 elites and 2-3 grunts) before the doors are even fully open. When I was staying down below, I was doing the same at the 3 o'clock room.

And do I need to go back down and clear the bottom, or is it safe to just continue on after the top is cleared?

Thanks for the checkpoint info!

EDIT: Your reply came in while I was typing mine, Agent Fong. Thank you for the extra info: I have been too lame at keeping moving, which might explain why I have to ask for advice before I even get to the "hard" parts! ~LOL!!~ However, I think I KILL GRUNTS' advice is just as much the "John-117 Style" as the others. All three were telling me to charge up the stairs. Actually, I can envision his advice working quite well; because if I hesitate just slightly in my stair climb, there is only one enemy between me and a clockwise path to the 6 o'clock alcove: One elite. (If I am really fast, I catch a grunt before he can cross the top of the stairs and get out of my clockwise path.)

BTW, 3 of 4 walkthroughs I read said to stay downstairs; but I was getting really creamed using that tactic. Guess I was playing aggressive AND staying downstairs --> bad combo!

[Edited on 8/23/2004 12:59:32 PM]

  • 08.23.2004 12:44 PM PDT
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If it really won't work, try co-op with a friend. When on a difficult spot, let your friend stay in a safe corner and you try. If you die, you'll respawn and can try it again as much times as you want.,.,.,.,

  • 08.23.2004 12:58 PM PDT
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If it really won't work, try co-op with a friend.,.,.,.,
Yeah, after about my 30th try, my bored son said, "Dad, just set it to easy and get past!" No. If I wanted to play an easier way, I'd have picked that at the start. ~grits teeth~ I'll beat this situation on SP Legendary, and hopefully it will help me grow some more hair on my chest!

  • 08.23.2004 1:07 PM PDT
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Ahhh, yes, the good old stairs section. I remember it well. It's very very tricky.
I remember what I did: The safest choice is to hang around the bottom and pick off any grunts that wander by with headshots with the pistol. Remember to move often. I'm not saying constant movement, I mean going from cover to cover. Don't attack the Elites, as it will just get their attention, and they're busy shooting at the marines (Who, I add, you should use as cover)
You say you got 3 'nades...? Well, that sucks. But what I'd do is once all the marines are dead (and that mean they're are all coming after you) you should pick up an assult rifle that should be lying down there, replacing your human pistol.
Then you use the the TEMPLAERDUDE Guarenteed Elite Killing Method: Overcharge your Plasma Pistol and shoot it at an elite that dares to come down. Then, while he's doing his stumble back routine, quickly switch to your Assult Rifle and fill him full of lead (make sure your Assult Rifle is completely loaded before this.)
If you think you can, stick a plasma do an elite and run away. That's another guareenteed kill. Frags are useless, unless your trying to draw them out of cover, Elites can easily dodge them.
Then, make sure it's clear, and be on your way. When I did this part, it took me a number of tries, but I eventually got it and only lost a single bar of heath.

Good luck.

  • 08.23.2004 1:07 PM PDT
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[color=lime] if you want to kill the cove fast you need your human pistol along with your plasma pistol. fire a charged shot at an elite. As it flies change to your human pistol and shoot him in the head.[/color]

  • 08.23.2004 1:42 PM PDT
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I have my contoller sensitivity set on 7. What I do for that part is get a plasma rifle. and all the grenades you can. Charge up the steps while some marines are still alive (right away). When you get to the top go right (what I usually do) and fire at the first Elite you see while throwing a grenade at him. Throw grenades and pick up fresh plasma rifles during your fight. I really find that to be the best weapon against elites, unless you do the charged plasma shot then switch to the pistol real fast to finish them off.

  • 08.23.2004 1:42 PM PDT
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Turn sensitivety is not that imortant, just set it to the level that YOU feel confident with, take it slowly, remember grenades are your friends, plasma grenades work best against the elites. Generally, an elite will stay in the one place shooting at you, dont shoot him or he wil move, but instead throw your grenade onto him. With any luck, he will run into his friend and take out both of them. Carry the Marine pistol, shoot grunts between the ees, kill in one shot. Another way of doing it is to use the plasma pistol on overcharge against the elites, this removes their shielding, then, while they're still stunned, switch to the pistol and head shot them.
If this is your first time on legendary, the marines probably wont survive. Instead, use them as destractions to get your shot into the enemy.
As Chief Mendez said "It is acceptable to spend their lives if necessary" "It is not acceptable to waste those lives".
So, the marines buy you some time - use it.

  • 08.23.2004 2:48 PM PDT
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jeez...i have my sensitivity on 10...and it works fine for me...

[Edited on 8/23/2004 3:08:13 PM]

  • 08.23.2004 3:07 PM PDT
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oh my god ive beaten everything on legendary in single player. U GUYS R THE BIGGEST NOOBS IN THE WORLD.

  • 08.23.2004 3:09 PM PDT
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Well, all your posts (except the last one) have been helpful: Thank you.

I set my sensitivity down to 6 and alternated between rushing upstairs and staying down; and was surprised to succeed on my second downstairs run: I stuck the elite in the downstairs room, popped the grunt with the M6D, then backed up and picked off upstairs grunts -- and 2 elites!! -- with the M6D. It seemed like most of my victims dropped plasmas down to my level when they expired. Sweet. Then an elite inexplicably JUMPED down to my level and hid behind the stairs. I left him there while picking off grunts, then circled around and took him out with a near-miss plasma 'nade and some M6D shots. 3 plasmas later, I finally got a stick on one of the 2 remaining upstairs elites. I intended to rush the last one; but he showed himself before I got to the stairs, and I took him out solely with M6D fire. The battle lasted about 6 minutes and used up about 5 plasma grenades and 50 M6D rounds. I went on to finish the PoA and am now in the next level.

What is it with these elites? 2 days ago I couldn't get past the shield on any of them; but yesterday, THREE of them decide to sit still long enough for me to polish them off!

Again, Thanks!

  • 08.24.2004 6:46 AM PDT
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i know this is way off topic but i need answers: why is the halo 2 forum completely down after the ilovebees.com site finished the countdown??! wtf is going on

  • 08.24.2004 7:01 AM PDT
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First, halo216 make your own thread about whatever you want. Second, people shouldn't ask other people what they should change their sensitivity setting to because every person is different. Third, people also should come to threads made by people who need advice and tell them "I beat everything on legendary you noobs" because that's just not nice. So, whoever made this thread (I can't remember) just keep trying different settings and you'll get better sooner or later. We were all there at one point.

  • 08.24.2004 9:02 AM PDT
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What is PoA????

  • 08.24.2004 9:45 AM PDT
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you got to be kidding me PoA? pillar of autumn

  • 08.24.2004 10:08 AM PDT