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Subject: So what will ruin the remake for you?

Good players work together...and no matter how good you are, you're not physic. - blade6321

Poll: So what will ruin the remake for you?  [closed]
Adding things:  25%
(39 Votes)
Removing things:  9%
(14 Votes)
Lack of online:  12%
(19 Votes)
Changing the campaign:  27%
(42 Votes)
Nothing! I'll probably love this game.:  22%
(34 Votes)
Not on the PC!:  3%
(5 Votes)
Total Votes: 153

So, let's play a game. In this game, we assume that the remake has been confirmed and is currently in development. Now, like any great fan we expect certain things from any game in a franchise, be it Halo, Mass Effect, Assassins Creed or even Star Wars. Let's all be honest here. There's no way this remake will come close to the original. We've all come to expect everything the Halo universe throws at us and we're not the same 10-13 year olds we were way back in yester-year. But still, how do you stand when it comes to this supposed remake? Honestly, I have only two demands. 1. Keep the campaign intact. I don't mind changes but remove a level, and my fanboy switch will turn on. 2. Keep the custom games the same. I understand developers like to change things, or fix shortcomings that they feel they couldn't back then...but this is Combat Evolved. I'm looking forward to the minute auto-aim and the overpowering pistol. I want the fall damage and short jumps. I want the mini-nuke grenades! Destructible vehicles can stay though :3

Edit: In hindsight, I should've added the option of "Not changing anything". If that's your option, just reply so.

[Edited on 02.08.2011 5:02 PM PST]

  • 02.04.2011 8:30 PM PDT

They're going to do some dumb -blam!- to the story. I just know it. I don't mind them upping its resolution, or giving it online, or even tweaking weapons a little (they could prolly add in some of the better weapons from the later games that would fit well. Fuel-rod gun, beam rifle, ect), but the moment that they decide the story needs revamping, or that they should make the dialog more friendly to newcomer fans, I'm out.

To be honest, I don't want 343 touching the game. At all. For this reason: They will -blam!- it up. This will not be a prettier version of the game I love to this day, this will be a mutilated corpse smeared in Microsoft clown-makeup; a piece of timeless game-art treated like a rag-doll so that it could be whored-out.

If they change one thing that isn't purely aesthetic, or user-functional, then this is going to be the worst remake ever. Of all time.

  • 02.04.2011 9:11 PM PDT

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I'd have to say adding too many things and also removing too many things. As well as changing the campaign, though I'm pretty sure they're going to fit online into the remake. I'd have to say if they want perfect and better'd than original Halo CE remake they need to both remove the right amount of things as well as add the right amount without over doing it both.

I'd like it if they changed the physics slightly or whatever it is. You know when actually dodge an attack in close range against an Elite he still shouldn't be able to damage you when you're not close enough to him.

Keep the weapons exactly the same with a few exceptions. No adding or removing. Make the Rocket kind of like Reach's Rocket in terms of splash damage. Make the Sniper like Halo 3's Sniper. Not exactly 100% sure on this or the other weapons.

Maps? I'd like maps from Halo 2 and 3 to tag along with the CER,but make them smaller if the player movement and speed is going to be the same or slightly adjusted to be 5% faster than the original.

Campaign? Hm... I don't know. If they're gonna try to make it extended, maybe try to do a double story like Halo 2, show how the Elites came across The Flood, maybe have a cutscene of what happend to Keys like how he got the hell out of the flood trap with Johnson. Make Hunters actually hard to kill. Like Reach's. Maybe make grunts and jackals infectible.

I don't know, I need to hear more on what exactly they're trying to do with remake.

[Edited on 02.04.2011 9:21 PM PST]

  • 02.04.2011 9:14 PM PDT


Posted by: Spec OpsLeader1
I'd have to say adding too many things and also removing too many things. As well as changing the campaign, though I'm pretty sure they're going to fit online into the remake. I'd have to say if they want perfect and better'd than original Halo CE remake they need to both remove the right amount of things as well as add the right amount without over doing it both.

I'd like it if they changed the physics slightly or whatever it is. You know when actually dodge an attack in close range against an Elite he still shouldn't be able to damage you when you're not close enough to him.

Keep the weapons exactly the same with a few exceptions. No adding or removing. Make the Rocket kind of like Reach's Rocket in terms of splash damage. Make the Sniper like Halo 3's Sniper. Not exactly 100% sure on this or the other weapons.

Maps? I'd like maps from Halo 2 and 3 to tag along with the CER,but make them smaller if the player movement and speed is going to be the same or slightly adjusted to be 5% faster than the original.

Campaign? Hm... I don't know. If they're gonna try to make it extended, maybe try to do a double story like Halo 2, show how the Elites came across The Flood, maybe have a cutscene of what happend to Keys like how he got the hell out of the flood trap with Johnson. Make Hunters actually hard to kill. Like Reach's. Maybe make grunts and jackals infectible.

I don't know, I need to hear more on what exactly they're trying to do with remake.


WHat he/she said.

The vehicle physics i think need to change. Do not add boarding, drivable wraith, rocket hog, ect...

If they want to add weapons or whatever then do it in a side/mini campaign from the covenant or unsc point of view. Original stays exactly the same.

I don't see a need to add and or remove much from the original. Just a tweak here and there.

  • 02.04.2011 10:00 PM PDT

halo fan

all ya have to do is bump up the graphics and add online

  • 02.04.2011 10:19 PM PDT
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If they must make changes to Campaign, they should make it so that AI Elites melee like human players (very fast, without getting stuck in the animation).

That will make it more harder to go around AI and assassinate them (Halo 3 and ODST are fine examples of AI melee failure. I could assassinate every Brute I encountered on Normal difficulty and with the help of plasma pistol overcharges (or just going around the Brute), I could take out several on Legendary).

Also, this will make it so that their melee range will be more realistic.

Obviously, the sword glow for Stealth Elites should be concealed. But I think Zealots look better with the sword glow (reducing the glow just makes them look dull and boring).

[Edited on 02.04.2011 10:42 PM PST]

  • 02.04.2011 10:40 PM PDT

Keep everything exactly the way that it was except for better graphics, THAT'S IT

  • 02.04.2011 10:59 PM PDT
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The only things that can be changed/added in mind are:
- Increasing resolution and graphics quality
- Adding online
- Adding a second set of campaign missions to explain how Sgt Johnson escaped

  • 02.04.2011 11:53 PM PDT

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If you want to know how Johnson escaped, read First Strike, I think it is...or The Flood. It's one of those two. Otherwise, I agree.

  • 02.05.2011 12:13 AM PDT

Good players work together...and no matter how good you are, you're not physic. - blade6321


Posted by: mlp256
- Adding a second set of campaign missions to explain how Sgt Johnson escaped


That would be amazing. Also, like Spec OpsLeader1 stated, I think a mission where you play as the Covenant when they first awaken the flood would be amazing. Hard as hell to get the cinematics/ambiance down right but I think it's possible.

Fairly diverse discussion as far as what people want out of this remake. I'm glad to see the die-hard from both sides of the argument come out.


Posted by: Spec OpsLeader1

Maps? I'd like maps from Halo 2 and 3 to tag along with the CER,but make them smaller if the player movement and speed is going to be the same or slightly adjusted to be 5% faster than the original.

Campaign? Hm... I don't know. If they're gonna try to make it extended, maybe try to do a double story like Halo 2, show how the Elites came across The Flood, maybe have a cutscene of what happend to Keys like how he got the hell out of the flood trap with Johnson. Make Hunters actually hard to kill. Like Reach's. Maybe make grunts and jackals infectible.


I think the multiplayer maps should consist of fan-favorites and maybe a few new ones just for kicks. I understand completely that the CE multiplayer is somewhat sacred but unless they're going to continue this little project with a Halo 2 remake, I'd say make it the best multiplayer offering we've ever seen. Agreed on the hunters. Maybe have the 2-shot pistol kill as an easter egg or only when a silver skull is activated (Assuming they still have them). Lovin the grunt/jackel infection idea but I don't think they were ever able to be infected. Too little mass, or something like that. I would love to see their remains in carrier forms though.

  • 02.05.2011 12:29 AM PDT

-If they dont add every single halo map in existance

-If they add bloom

-If they mess with the story

-If they art style is changed too much

-If they dont let me play as a grunt

  • 02.05.2011 5:20 PM PDT
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If it feels any different from the original, as in they add bloom or hitscan or reduce jump/player speed, I'll be mad. I don't care if they tweak things, but if they add or remove too many things that made the original great I will be very pissed off.

  • 02.05.2011 7:09 PM PDT

Good players work together...and no matter how good you are, you're not physic. - blade6321


Posted by: TurtleNut
if they add bloom or anything in reach

if they add hit scan.. omg the magnum would be so easy to use



Posted by: TurtleNut
if they add bloom or anything in reach

if they add hit scan.. omg the magnum would be so easy to use

I'm hoping they drop bloom, keep hitscan and lower the auto-aim. I'm also not looking forward to them using a new engine. The Reach engine is beautiful!

  • 02.05.2011 8:39 PM PDT

i feel like the only changes that should be made are possibly
-More dialogue (such as more Marine lines, not to story plot)
-Make your own A.I. units (Marines) better, (but slightly)
-Upgrade graphics, but keep the same guns with the same damage and grenades with the same range and damage.

We don't want a new Halo game, we want halo with better graphics, because anything else will give us a whole lot more to complain about.

  • 02.05.2011 11:26 PM PDT

Doc: "i'm a pacifist"
Caboose: "your a thing that babies suck on?"
Tucker: "no dude, that's a pedephile"
Church: "tucker, i think he means a pacifier"

Anything outside of simply a new coat of paint will upset me. If they update the physics engine and make changes to gameplay and story elements, I will not buy it. If they make an XBL MP component, I will more than likely not dish out the cash for it. Co-op campaign via xbl is okay, but not necessary, and only desired if the difficulty ramps with each additional player.

  • 02.06.2011 3:26 AM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.

Doing anything will ruin the GOD LIEK GAME that ANY CHANGE WILL RUIN FOREVER!

[/sarcasm]

It's not going to be your godlike 1/1 port, that's for sure. If you want one just play the PC version.

[Edited on 02.06.2011 6:25 AM PST]

  • 02.06.2011 6:25 AM PDT

So you went to the trouble of clicking on my profile, either to send a group invite or hate message, or to check my Halo stats and call me a BK. I like Peanut Butter Waffles.

As long as the story, environments, gameplay, and maps are the same, it'll be great. The only things they shouldn't add is AA's, equipment, BR, new guns, destructible vehicles, ect. Adding Forge, theater, and FF would be great.

  • 02.06.2011 6:29 AM PDT

If they could fix some physics issues, make the Flood not be able to melee so far, do some real lip synching, and remove the "This cave is not a natural formation" line, I'd be happy.

If they take it much further than that, I'll inevitably be pissed off. Combat Evolved is my favorite game ever, and that includes the library. Yes they re-use a lot of environments, but the environments you go through are mysterious and awesome. Only thing I could see them doing is maybe changing up the aesthetic of some of the repeating rooms in AoTCR/Two Betrayals. But seriously, no new weapons, no changes to the AI, and keep the control fluidity perfectly intact.

  • 02.06.2011 6:54 AM PDT

Posted by: mlp256
The only things that can be changed/added in mind are:
- Increasing resolution and graphics quality
- Adding online
- Adding a second set of campaign missions to explain how Sgt Johnson escaped


The Halo graphic novel did that, it would basically be the level 343 Guilty Spark with a different character.

  • 02.06.2011 6:58 AM PDT

l;abhrfiodj!!

I want matchmaking, better graphics, more dialogue, An extra campaign level at the end explaining how cheif got to earth, and a longer opening cutscene showing the POA fighting covenant ships. Oh oh and I want it to include all the Combat evolved multi player maps from both the console and PC versions... and maybe a few newly made maps.

  • 02.06.2011 10:46 AM PDT

Good players work together...and no matter how good you are, you're not physic. - blade6321


Posted by: JacobGRocks
Doing anything will ruin the GOD LIEK GAME that ANY CHANGE WILL RUIN FOREVER!

[/sarcasm]

It's not going to be your godlike 1/1 port, that's for sure. If you want one just play the PC version.
This sums up the entirety of the remake and how it will be perceived.

  • 02.06.2011 11:56 AM PDT

You'll never get the extra level. That would take an extra game. Go read a book. (First Strike)

  • 02.06.2011 12:04 PM PDT

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