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Subject: So what will ruin the remake for you?

campaign will be the same since they aren't changing the voices and sounds of the original halo ce

  • 02.06.2011 4:19 PM PDT

I am The Sapphire Knight

The worst thing they could possibly do is "Not change anything but the graphics."

The story and progression in CE are still fantastic but the repetition and old mechanics really bring it down.(Keep in mind I am referring to campaign only)

Repetition of weapons, enemy models, and enemy types really bring down the experience. By the end I was tired of seeing the 3 same Covenant weapons throughout the game.

The challenge in some sections could also be increased if there were Covenant that had access to long range weaponry. Think of the second level 'Halo' and how easy it was to Snipe out all the enemies before they even got close. I would love to see Jackal Snipers armed with either N'ifle/Focus Rifles or Carbines/Beam Rifles. (Don't interpret this as me also wanting a BR/DMR. I only want the Pistol in the human sandbox)

I also grew tired of seeing the exact same models of enemies with color swaps through the whole game despite the addition of the flood. In this aspect Reach style models would be greatly appreciated.(Not necessarily the Reach models but something more significant than Red Elite Blue Elite)

Other aspects of CE also need to be updated. Vehicle boarding, visor zoom, destructible vehicles(UNSC/Unoccupied vehicles), AI driver, AI weapon switching, etc.

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  • 02.06.2011 4:20 PM PDT

Calculus calms my troubled mind

The only thing I want in a remake is updated graphics, online, and maybe tweaked weapons and maps.

  • 02.06.2011 4:26 PM PDT

They don't need to change any weapons, the balance is fine. At most they should somehow buff the needler.

Keep everything in the physics engine exactly the same. If I can't 'nade sniper to overshield on prisoner, then they failed.

Don't add any of the other game's crappy maps. Last thing I need is never getting to play FFA on damnation because kids keep voting for stupid H3 or H:R maps. This is Halo 1, play the other games if you want those maps.



[Edited on 02.06.2011 6:04 PM PST]

  • 02.06.2011 6:04 PM PDT

Things are going to change, despite what we may want. Besides upgraded graphics, gameplay could change. I can see armor abilities possibly coming. Personally, i wouldn't mind sprint, it really doesn't affect gameplay, besides making you quicker. I can't see MC armor locking. Weapons would need to change, like the 60 round mag. I wouldn't mind a mongoose, and maybe drop the revenant and pick up the halo 2 spectre.

If there's a legendary edition, would anyone else like a token to download the original Halo CE from XBLA?

  • 02.06.2011 6:31 PM PDT

Don't worry, you're still your mom's favorite Bnet member.

Keyes will give you a LOADED PISTOL!!!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Edited on 02.06.2011 8:46 PM PST]

  • 02.06.2011 8:46 PM PDT

Good players work together...and no matter how good you are, you're not physic. - blade6321


Posted by: WerepyreND
The worst thing they could possibly do is "Not change anything but the graphics."

The story and progression in CE are still fantastic but the repetition and old mechanics really bring it down.(Keep in mind I am referring to campaign only)

Repetition of weapons, enemy models, and enemy types really bring down the experience. By the end I was tired of seeing the 3 same Covenant weapons throughout the game.

The challenge in some sections could also be increased if there were Covenant that had access to long range weaponry. Think of the second level 'Halo' and how easy it was to Snipe out all the enemies before they even got close. I would love to see Jackal Snipers armed with either N'ifle/Focus Rifles or Carbines/Beam Rifles. (Don't interpret this as me also wanting a BR/DMR. I only want the Pistol in the human sandbox)

I also grew tired of seeing the exact same models of enemies with color swaps through the whole game despite the addition of the flood. In this aspect Reach style models would be greatly appreciated.(Not necessarily the Reach models but something more significant than Red Elite Blue Elite)

Other aspects of CE also need to be updated. Vehicle boarding, visor zoom, destructible vehicles(UNSC/Unoccupied vehicles), AI driver, AI weapon switching, etc.

This message brought to you by Werepyre's Campaign Against Blind Nostalgia.


I actually wanted to make a thread about this a little later. The developers (I currently forget their names) are stuck in a Catch-22. If they just update the graphics, they'll piss of the half of the fanbase and most of the potential buyers they could attract with a new game. If they change too much, they remove what makes Halo Halo and alienate 3/4 of the fanbase. Concerning campaign, I think they should take somewhat of a river approach. By that, I mean they can change the route the game takes, add a few things here and there but ultimately keep the same flow the original game had and most important of all, arrive at the same destination. I'm not against adding weapons, vehicles and such. If anything, it just gives us new ways to play the game we already love.




Posted by: MegaMuffin16
Keyes will give you a LOADED PISTOL!!!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


You sir, have just made my day.

Edit: And most important of all....Forget that Halo: Reach exists. It breaks canon more than necessary. Let's just skip it instead of trying to bend this remake to fit with it.

You'll never get the extra level. That would take an extra game. Go read a book. (First Strike) Read em all Bro. Can't blame a guy for wanting to play them.

[Edited on 02.06.2011 11:41 PM PST]

  • 02.06.2011 11:38 PM PDT

Can't we all just get along?

Honestly, I would only change one thing, and replace the Pistol with a rifle, excact same stats, just so it feels more like a Primary weapon and less like a side arm. I mean everybody knows that it is a Primary, right?

Seriously though, remove 3SK and change it to something slightly more balanced. No other changes whatsoever (apart from graphics improvements, of course).

Even keep the multiplayer like it was on PC: No XP rating or skill, can join in and leave games midway. Keep it as a "Play for fun" instead of "play to level"

  • 02.07.2011 2:02 AM PDT

Don't worry, you're still your mom's favorite Bnet member.

Posted by: progr3550r
Honestly, I would only change one thing, and replace the Pistol with a rifle,
BLASPHEMY

  • 02.07.2011 6:10 AM PDT

plz no armor abillitys....

  • 02.07.2011 9:45 AM PDT

Jawldee is going to run you over in his pick up truck.

I think that was a little bit harsh, but I understand what you mean. Trust me, this game is really important to me too. What I think could potentially ruin this game is the fact that 343 isnt gonna develop it. From the announcement of 343 Industries, we were under the impression that THEY were going to be the ones developing the games. Now they are the ones overseeing the development. I think thats kinda bull, because 343 is mostly made up of BUNGIE employees! I want to see BUNGIE make the remake, not some other studio! I don't mind 343, but I have a bad feeling that this new dev team is going to -blam!- things up.

  • 02.07.2011 3:49 PM PDT
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If the campaign's level design is the same then the campaign is ruined for me. Whats the point of getting a remake if it's the exact same game as before?

If the story is changed in a manner to where it contradicts the original, it's ruined for me. I don't mind if things happen a little differently or if the script is a little different, but if there are significant changes then thats unacceptable.

David Scully, Steve Downes and Jenn Taylor must reprise their roles as Johnson, Chief and Cortana, respectively. I would like Pete Stacker and Tim Dadabo to come back but if for some reason they can't get them I'll survive. Theres no excuse for another Halo Legends though. Steve Downes and Jenn Taylor are the Master Chief and Cortana, thats all there is to it.

As for the multiplayer, at the very least bring back all the good maps from the xbox version of Combat Evolved. Pretty much every map that isn't Chiron TL-34. If for some reason not every original map doesn't make it DO NOT CHARGE FOR IT AS DLC. This is a remake, we shouldn't have to pay extra for what should have been included in the first place.

Keep the weapons balanced in the same way they were originally, keep the running speed the same, Keep the damage distribution the same, add vehicle jacking(pretty much the only thing added to the Halo series that everyone can agree was good),no bloom, no armor abilities, no battle rifle, no dmr. If any of this is changed then change all of it. If it's not going to play exactly like Halo 1 then it sure as shouldn't play like Halo 2, 3 or Reach instead.

Then lastly add saved films, forge and armor customization.

[Edited on 02.07.2011 8:47 PM PST]

  • 02.07.2011 8:40 PM PDT

Precision is everything. Don't back down.

Posted by: SamTheWeebo
I want matchmaking, better graphics, more dialogue, An extra campaign level at the end explaining how cheif got to earth, and a longer opening cutscene showing the POA fighting covenant ships. Oh oh and I want it to include all the Combat evolved multi player maps from both the console and PC versions... and maybe a few newly made maps.


This wouldn't work, considering his entire journey back to Earth was made into a book. It would have to be like a two hour long mission, making it boring and drawn on way too long. All I want is online playability, better graphics, a few new maps included (Halo 2 maps please), and some tweaks here and there. Any changes to the story will be horrible I can't wait for a trailer.

  • 02.07.2011 8:53 PM PDT

Like Halo 2, do 2 stories. One as a spartan: Master Chief, and one as a marine tagged along with Keyes n Johnson.
So just like Halo 2, You'd have to get used to two character traits/skills.

"Get it off!!!"
"Hold still!"

  • 02.07.2011 8:56 PM PDT

F**king armor lock.

In fact I dont want to see any armor abilities.

  • 02.07.2011 9:04 PM PDT

Yes the game that started all, Halo CE and for the haters that say it is going to be a bad idea, you have never played Halo CE hardcore like we fan boys have.

  • 02.07.2011 9:36 PM PDT

Good players work together...and no matter how good you are, you're not physic. - blade6321


Posted by: xXFEZ1023Xx
Yes the game that started all, Halo CE and for the haters that say it is going to be a bad idea, you have never played Halo CE hardcore like we fan boys have.
Disagreeing with an opinion doesn't make you less of a fan of something. If anything, it makes you more of a fan for actually taking the time to critically think about this game and not blindly follow it because Microsoft slapped the Halo name on it.

Posted by: Master ShabsR60
I think that was a little bit harsh, but I understand what you mean. Trust me, this game is really important to me too. What I think could potentially ruin this game is the fact that 343 isnt gonna develop it. From the announcement of 343 Industries, we were under the impression that THEY were going to be the ones developing the games. Now they are the ones overseeing the development. I think thats kinda bull, because 343 is mostly made up of BUNGIE employees! I want to see BUNGIE make the remake, not some other studio! I don't mind 343, but I have a bad feeling that this new dev team is going to -blam!- things up.
I'd usually have faith in this new developer but I just think this is a little out of their league. Timeshift was a great game, and their next one looks like it's going to be a sleeper hit too...but you're completely right. These are people with no experience in the Halo universe. There's just too much room for error. I'll still get the game, don't get me wrong but I'd like the reassurance of having people familiar with this universe and fanbase at the helm.

[Edited on 02.07.2011 9:47 PM PST]

  • 02.07.2011 9:46 PM PDT

I think a remake, at all, would ruin it for me. Granted I would love to see it remastered, but a full rebuild is asking for trouble because fans will still b**** about things that they want altered the studio still may not do...

What I want more is a new franchise - people really need to move on.

  • 02.07.2011 9:59 PM PDT

And spartan II's didn't have "armor abilities" so don't worry about Master Chief "acquiring" armor lock out of no where.

  • 02.07.2011 10:56 PM PDT

Have you ever seen the blast radius of an actual plasma grenade?

keep the core the same...theres nothing wrong with adding a few new guns...or bonus levels ...more maps...maybe halo 2 maps? that would be the best....but keep the core of the game the same

  • 02.08.2011 8:23 AM PDT

Do what? I have the Index! You can just float and sputter!


Posted by: Spec OpsLeader1
Campaign? Hm... I don't know. If they're gonna try to make it extended, maybe try to do a double story like Halo 2, show how the Elites came across The Flood, maybe have a cutscene of what happend to Keys like how he got the hell out of the flood trap with Johnson. Make Hunters actually hard to kill. Like Reach's. Maybe make grunts and jackals infectible.

Grunts/ Jackals become carriers. and also just slap a coat of high res paint and maybe multiplayer on LIVE but leave everything else intact and i will be happy.

  • 02.08.2011 8:34 AM PDT

Do what? I have the Index! You can just float and sputter!


Posted by: LegacyXx
keep the core the same...theres nothing wrong with adding a few new guns...or bonus levels ...more maps...maybe halo 2 maps? that would be the best....but keep the core of the game the same

everything you said is WRONG! go play reach sir.

  • 02.08.2011 8:35 AM PDT
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If I see a single alteration of the game's campaign in a way that does it absolutely no justice, it gets returned in less than 30 days.


Period.

  • 02.08.2011 10:01 AM PDT
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Posted by: msc204
If I see a single alteration of the game's campaign in a way that does it absolutely no justice, it gets returned in less than 30 days.


Period.


I hear it is supposed to be the same exact campaign just REVAMPED to modern style graphics. That means the same weapons, spawns, etc.

Maybe they will throw in some more enemies on top of the old ones because the 360 can handle more.

Music is supposed to be the exact same too.

  • 02.08.2011 10:20 AM PDT

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