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Posted by: GrnDragn
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Posted by: GrnDragn
I think they should say Halo Reach is non-Canon. Replace a good book with a crap story, Bungie? Bo-way. And the Journal doesn't really help. I view it as a last ditch effort to make Reach fit into the Canon, because they forgot about the books. :P[/quote]
reach=main canon, books = optional canon. how do people not get this? its not complicated!
Reach did not adhere to the Halo Story Bible, the novels did, Reach is essentially non-canon.
BAHAHA, what the hell dude, have you ever seen the Halo Story Bible? I never have, you don't know what adheres to it or doesn't, that comments was just to funny. The Halo Story Bible is whatever direction Bungie takes the story.
And the difficulties in the canon currently are no where near so bad that either TFoR or Reach must be rendered non-canon. And besides, according to Bungie and their ranking of canon new material outranks old material, but the two can coexist, a few minor tweaks need to be made it's all good again, neither one needs to be non-canon for the other to be canon.
Bungie doesn't decide Canon, 343 does. And even they said that the Fall of Reach fit perfectly within the Halo Story Bible, because Eric Nylind was given the first "draft" of the HSB to use as a source. Bungie and 343 have declared TFoR Canon. So no, you are wrong. The Fall of Reach is Canon, and Bumgie can't change that because they are no longer the owners of the franchise.
And they can't co-exist, because there are so many things in the game that, if not Canon-breaking, are borderline stupid. We've argued this time and time again.
I know that 343 are the Halo Gods and the Powers That Be now, I haven't adjusted my vocabulary to fit yet. And anyway 343 and Bungie might as well be the same, seeing as the heads of 343 are ex-Bungie guys, I know Frank O'Connor is the head of 343, and he's one of the guys that pretty much created Halo.
The Halo Bible is probably not as fleshed out as you seem to think it is, it sounds to me like what one could call author's notes, it may have mostly full stories in it, it may not, the public at large will never know unless whoever holds power over the Halo Bible releases it.
They can co-exist, and they do, even if you don't think they fit, Bungie/343 have declared both canon. And if you actually think about the gaps in the two stories logically you can find many ways to match them up. And stupidity does not render something non-canon, whatever your thoughts are on what is stupid or not, it just means you think it is stupid. Like me, I think the Star Wars Prequels are full of stupidity by the characters, yet I accept that they're canon no matter how much I dislike them and think the actions by the characters are stupid. most fans dont want to belive that the noble side story on reach is cannon.