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Subject: Is there harm in Adding Sprint to Halo CE 2?

Really, is there any harm to adding a Sprint ability of sorts in the CE remake? In the book it states that Chief sprints from rock to rock to take cover from fire, so technically, it would work canon wise, what do you think?

EDIT: You guys seem to miss my point, his sprint "ability" is indeed natural, not an Armor Ability, something you could use from time to time, as a Spartan II, I'm sure it would be much quieter than that of Reach's sprint.

[Edited on 02.08.2011 5:09 PM PST]

  • 02.07.2011 8:32 PM PDT

Books are meant to be more "realistic" than the games. And yes, it would be pretty harmful IMHO. Halo: CE should stick to it's roots. No AAs, that includes Sprint.

  • 02.07.2011 8:37 PM PDT

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It would not work, because in books people actually run. Chief didn't need to pick up a little thing to help him run. Not only that, but I don't think they're needed in a remake.

  • 02.07.2011 8:37 PM PDT
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It would need near perfect execution in order to work.

  • 02.07.2011 8:43 PM PDT

Yes it would change the game majorly. Especially if there is a MM. People would just be spamming sprint like mad.

  • 02.07.2011 9:03 PM PDT

There would be harm because Halo:CE is a great game already and adding AA's just ruins the feeling you had when you first played Halo:CE.

  • 02.07.2011 10:58 PM PDT
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  • 02.07.2011 11:04 PM PDT
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This is true but if Bungie would have payed more attention to the book They wouldnt have messed up the ending for halo reach

  • 02.08.2011 12:52 AM PDT
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I think AA's and bloom are what make Halo: Reach the weakest Halo. They should keep the CE remake as similar as possible to the original.

  • 02.08.2011 12:53 AM PDT

I never was a big fan of Equipment and AA's to be honest, but AA's like Sprint are pretty "innocent".

That being said: I would want the Remake to be as faithfull as possible and Sprint doesn't fit in that.

Only option would be to make Sprint a standard part of gameplay, not something you pick up or that works as an AA, but something you have on you all the time "naturally".
But even then it would interfere with the classic gameplay too much.

  • 02.08.2011 2:11 AM PDT

If you add an ability like that, you have to change the way all the levels play. You couldn't just add it, up the detain on the maps, reskin the enemies and walk away. The layout and flow of certain levels and areas in the game would gain, or lose something. You'd have to go and rebalance all of that.

In the end, it could cause delays, and changes that would effect the game negatively. I think it's would be more trouble than it's worth.

  • 02.08.2011 4:57 AM PDT

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Master Chief already sprint, just not because a USB told him too. Go play Halo CE and compare the running speed to any other Halo game. To me, it's always felt like the fastest.

To be honest, if they remake it with the right speed as it was in CE, they won't need to put the AA, it'd be over kill. They slowed the speed down in the next few games and they've been declining in authenticity since.

  • 02.08.2011 5:10 AM PDT


Posted by: Kra
This is true but if Bungie would have payed more attention to the book They wouldnt have messed up the ending for halo reach

The Ending!?
The game was conflicting whith canon from the begining.

For instance, S-III's where mainly sent on high risk suiside missions.

So some guy named Holland has 5 of them and a S-II, and he has them chicking out 'downed relay stations', i mean, seriously!?

  • 02.08.2011 6:07 AM PDT

It would negatively effect the gameplay (see sprint double melee) so no I wouldn't want it. The only real addition I want into the CE remake would be vehicle jacking and thats about it.

  • 02.08.2011 6:36 AM PDT


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Posted by: Kra
This is true but if Bungie would have payed more attention to the book They wouldnt have messed up the ending for halo reach

The Ending!?
The game was conflicting whith canon from the begining.

For instance, S-III's where mainly sent on high risk suiside missions.

So some guy named Holland has 5 of them and a S-II, and he has them chicking out 'downed relay stations', i mean, seriously!?


privatized groups of S3's aren't rare. Look at the Headhunter companies for instance. They also had a couple of S2 private groups made up out of "missing" Spartans, see: Grey Team.

Those groups consist of highly skilled Spartans, are taken off the radar and do various missions that are not the usual suicide missions anymore.

And what is wrong with inspecting a downed Comms Array in the middle of what is presumed to be Insurrection country? Would you go in with a battalion of ODST's, sure to bring the heat and not being very subtle?
Or do you send in some Spartans who are far more discrete, can do far more damage if possible with presumably less casualties amongst themselfs?

Tactically, option 2 is far better. No need to go in guns blazing if you don't know what is goinf on, risking the community to join the Insurrection because you blew up their homes, destroyed their crops etc.
And if there are Insurrectionists, there will probably be lots of them, and a Spartan team would take them out nice and clean.

Besides: Master Chief and Blue Team had countless of these missions too.

  • 02.08.2011 7:29 AM PDT

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Posted by: GrnDragn
Books are meant to be more "realistic" than the games. And yes, it would be pretty harmful IMHO. Halo: CE should stick to it's roots. No AAs, that includes Sprint.
Agreed.

  • 02.08.2011 7:53 AM PDT

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I have to respectfully dissagree. I think sprint would be just fine in a CE remake. But only sprint, not other AA's.

  • 02.08.2011 9:40 AM PDT

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Adding Sprint would mean that certain parts of the game would be way too easy to complete (Keyes, The Library etc) unless they radically rebuilt those sections. Everything has a knock on effect.

I personally think they should just leave the game alone, its done already! This just reeks of a money making scheme.

  • 02.08.2011 9:54 AM PDT
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Posted by: flamedude
Adding Sprint would mean that certain parts of the game would be way too easy to complete (Keyes, The Library etc) unless they radically rebuilt those sections. Everything has a knock on effect.

I personally think they should just leave the game alone, its done already! This just reeks of a money making scheme.


The Library is already balls-on hard. NO FRICKING WAY I want more pain and suffering.

Sure bum-rushing works on Easy and Normal... but Heroic and Legendary...

Sprint would be good for running cover-to-cover and small guerrila engagements, and would add a new level of tactical gameplay.

Maybe Jetpack could be added as well? Meh.

  • 02.08.2011 10:07 AM PDT

Halo is one of the most important part of my life.

Yes, i will not buy it if theres any gameplay change on it.

  • 02.08.2011 11:11 AM PDT

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Posted by: flamedude
Adding Sprint would mean that certain parts of the game would be way too easy to complete (Keyes, The Library etc) unless they radically rebuilt those sections. Everything has a knock on effect.

I personally think they should just leave the game alone, its done already! This just reeks of a money making scheme.


The Library is already balls-on hard. NO FRICKING WAY I want more pain and suffering.

Sure bum-rushing works on Easy and Normal... but Heroic and Legendary...

Sprint would be good for running cover-to-cover and small guerrila engagements, and would add a new level of tactical gameplay.

Maybe Jetpack could be added as well? Meh.


But where do you stop? You can totally rewrite the game to add new AAs or weapons that make previous hard sections easy, meaning you need to make those sections harder than before.

Add a Spartan Laser to Two Betrayals? You can kill everything, better chuck in a Scarab. Chuck in a Scarab, better chuck in a Falcon or Hornet. Know what I mean? And if the game is so radically overhauled is it still Halo CE or just a complete new game?

If they want it to be a faithful remake they need to make the game similar or the same as the original.

  • 02.08.2011 11:15 AM PDT

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Wow there are a lot of ridiculous people on here. It would be absolutely fine to add some minor gameplay changes to the remake. If not, what would be the point of it? Graphics alone? I don't see the sales being too high on that. Being able to sprint in the game would not ruin the experience of playing Halo and to think it would is seriously stupid. A lot of people on here seem to live too much in the past with some misguided sense of nostalgia. Halo CE was and still is a fantastic game, but it was the first and there is always room for improvement, especially with a series beginning. If all of the other Halo games didn't have multiplayer or abilities like sprinting, would the franchise be as popular as it is today? No. So why go back to an outdated formula in a time when ppl now spend 90% of their game time playing multiplayer with friends? It just doesn't make sense and Microsoft is business savvy enough to know better so I think it's time to move on and look to the future of the franchise and stop trying to relive "the good old days".

[Edited on 02.08.2011 11:47 AM PST]

  • 02.08.2011 11:44 AM PDT

Posted by: nofatchicks6921
It would need near perfect execution in order to work.


Yes. Otherwise it will not work.

  • 02.08.2011 11:51 AM PDT

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Posted by: ParagonRenegade
You were totally and absolutely correct in every way, I don't know why we were arguing, you're so amazing I should never have doubted you.

The remake had better be CE with better graphics and matchmaking, nothing else. Same physics for grenades and player movement, same power for the pistol. Any changes would be for the worse.

[Edited on 02.08.2011 1:15 PM PST]

  • 02.08.2011 1:15 PM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

Yes. It would make them want to lower default speed. In Halo CE you moved pretty faster, faster than any following games. I'm hoping that's still an attribute.

  • 02.08.2011 1:41 PM PDT

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