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Posted by: Greenbandon
I'm the kind of -blam!- that siggs himself

I'm a man and I don't watch pr0n anymore.

  • 02.10.2011 10:05 AM PDT
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Posted by: superfonz666
Okay. My first problem with this is that your analysis of objectification is extremely sexist. Towards men. -blam!- objecifies men in exactly the same way as it objectifies women. Seriously. Compare your trouser snake to that of O.G Mudbone and every other adult film actor, and then tell me that's not causing unrealistic expectations for a male appearance. Because it bleedin' well is. Infact the amazing Athiest mentioned it in one of his videos; It may have been in "feminism sucks" but I am not sure. Additionally it puts pressure on males to over-build (I hope this is the right term) their muscles. This is on exactly the same scale as the adult film actresses who have had thousands of (insert currency here) worth of cosmetic surgery.
It is not sexist in the slightest, I said I was aiming this towards men. Of course there is objectification of men as well, how does that make it any better? To use an old saying, two wrongs don't make a right.

Another point is this; Said women would not have had this surgery if they did't WANT to be objectified; being objectified is their JOB for crying out loud. I know, I know, not all of them "enjoy" it and were "forced into it" (as if there were no alternatives).Actually quite a lot of the p0rn industry involves people who are forced into it. Plus I am saying that the objectification of the women you watch often means you will objectify your partners. That is where the problems arise.

Look at some of the ameture films. These are normal couples enjoying consensual intercourse not soley for you, the viewers pleasure, but because THEY enjoy it. Because filming yourself doing him makes it more enjoyable doesn't it? They do it for money.

Also there will always be a demand for adult film because people enjoy watching it. Not for the purpose of ojectifying peope, however, as many have been indocrinated to believe.I came up with this idea myself, no one told it to me. If anything you have been indoctrinated by the internet says that you can watch p0rn with no recessionals, which quite clearly isn't true. Plus what you said about people watch it for enjoyment not to objectify women, I would say that you don't smoke in order to die from it, it is a result that you have little to no control over.

Do you not have a sex drive? do you not have a "mojo"? Have you never walked down the high street, casually glanced at a member of the opposite gender and thought, "I would"? Of course you have, and if you say otherwise, you are lying because you've been wrongly taught that it is wrong to have such desires. Raep is wrong, but a want for intercourse is not, because it's bleedin' biological and necessary.Of course I have a sex drive. But the whole "I would" is a sign that our society is objectifying women (and men). If it was a simple basic instinct, then we would naturally want to breed with the most healthy women, which isn't the case. It is because of things like p0rn that we look for women to be perfect, and we think that we can think about having sex with them if we want to. You see yes it is the sex drive, but it has been changed thanks to thinks like p0rn.

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  • 02.10.2011 10:16 AM PDT

Imma musician and things :3

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Well, I don't watch it, so by the looks of it I'm unaffected.

  • 02.10.2011 10:18 AM PDT

You're like, the bee's knees: you have helped me out a LOT in the past and you're a genuinely nice guy, and you deserve all the best for the good you've done me and surely done others
Count Peter, you're one of the only people I respect on here. Not that that means much on a forum, but still.

But on the plus side, it stops many of the more perverted and desperate amongst us from doing anything crazy. Besides, whilst I do not watch it myself its a good stimulation for -blam!-ion, which is a very healthy act to do.

It may be frowned upon, but it also does a lot of good too.

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Posted by: squirrel dude
I went ahead and read through your post. The angle on how it can damage relationships was newer than most of what else you post. It was well thought out, and it's nice to see people trying to post this stuff.

GJ OP.
Thank you :)

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To the healthy man, there is a huge difference between the things that attract us in the way pr0nography does and the way that our girlfriends/spouses do. They're completely different things.

Yes, the way the pr0nography stimulates the viewer is mostly in an objectifying way. And yes, that may be bad. But at this point it turns into a morality and religious debate, and I'm going to leave it at that. To each his own.

I am an 18 year old male and watch pr0nography maybe once or twice a week for the purpose of -blam!-ion. It has not affected me in the least, and I honestly think that I am a normal (actually probably more passionate than normal) lover.

I believe that pr0nography, like alcohol and marijuana (in some opinions), is safe in moderation. A little goes a long way. Like drinking with a bunch of friends on a weekend once in awhile, it can be a lot of fun. I think that if one were to become addicted to pr0nogrphy, it is a reflection of their own lack of intelligence.

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PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE. PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE. PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE. PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE. PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE. PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE. PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE. PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE. PRYING OPEN MY THIRD EYE.

Here's a video of a guy refuting 100 reasons why pr0nz is "bad"

It's 41 minutes long but it's worth learning that your thoughts on pr0nz are stupid, OP

  • 02.10.2011 10:33 AM PDT
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Posted by: A Blind Wolf
Here's a video of a guy refuting 100 reasons why pr0nz is "bad"

It's 41 minutes long but it's worth learning that your thoughts on pr0nz are stupid, OP
P0rn can break up relationships, I know that for a fact. I know of a married couple that have split up because of it. I don't care what that video says, its true.

So you can think that it is correct, but do you think you could give it up if your girlfriend/wife wanted you to?

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  • 02.10.2011 10:38 AM PDT

My spoon isn't the only thing that's too big

How is society giving us our sex drive?

  • 02.10.2011 10:39 AM PDT

My spoon isn't the only thing that's too big


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Posted by: A Blind Wolf
Here's a video of a guy refuting 100 reasons why pr0nz is "bad"

It's 41 minutes long but it's worth learning that your thoughts on pr0nz are stupid, OP
P0rn can break up relationships, I know that for a fact. I know of a married couple that have split up because of it. I don't care what that video says, its true.

So you can think that it is correct, but do you think you could give it up if your girlfriend/wife wanted you to?

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Are you one of those people that applies the results of a few instances to the entirety of the matter at hand? You do realize that's a logical fallacy, right?

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Posted by: mahspoonis2big
How is society giving us our sex drive?
I never said that it was, but it changed what we find attractive. In some African cultures, being overweight is attractive, as it shows wealth. In our culture, some one objectifying themselves is seen as attractive.

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Posted by: A Blind Wolf
Here's a video of a guy refuting 100 reasons why pr0nz is "bad"

It's 41 minutes long but it's worth learning that your thoughts on pr0nz are stupid, OP
P0rn can break up relationships, I know that for a fact. I know of a married couple that have split up because of it. I don't care what that video says, its true.

So you can think that it is correct, but do you think you could give it up if your girlfriend/wife wanted you to?

- JFKES
Are you one of those people that applies the results of a few instances to the entirety of the matter at hand? You do realize that's a logical fallacy, right?
What, so you think that the vast majority of the p0rn watching population could give it up for their wife/girlfriend? You must have seen how many of the flood have confessed to being addicted and not being able to give it up. I know of many cases where the person tries to give it up, but can't and it effects relationships.

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  • 02.10.2011 10:43 AM PDT

Doc: "i'm a pacifist"
Caboose: "your a thing that babies suck on?"
Tucker: "no dude, that's a pedephile"
Church: "tucker, i think he means a pacifier"


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Posted by: mahspoonis2big
How is society giving us our sex drive?
I never said that it was, but it changed what we find attractive. In some African cultures, being overweight is attractive, as it shows wealth. In our culture, some one objectifying themselves is seen as attractive.

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What? You do realize that the adult entertainment industry follows trends of attraction right? They don't set them. Only a VERY immature person would watch -blam!- with the expectation that a typical women would behave such a way at the drop of a hat.

[Edited on 02.10.2011 10:45 AM PST]

  • 02.10.2011 10:44 AM PDT

Expectation: Get a girl who looks the way you want.
Addiction: Get a girl who lets you beat off.
Objectification: Get a girl who does what you want in bed.

Oh look, problem solved.

  • 02.10.2011 10:45 AM PDT

Posted by: DRO kid510
The biggest risk you can take, is not taking one at all.

Your thread lost its validity the moment you started throwing out random numbers for statistics.

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Posted by: mahspoonis2big
How is society giving us our sex drive?
I never said that it was, but it changed what we find attractive. In some African cultures, being overweight is attractive, as it shows wealth. In our culture, some one objectifying themselves is seen as attractive.

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What? You do realize that the adult entertainment industry follows trends of attraction right? They don't set them.
Clearly, but they take them to new levels. Take for example some people finding big breasts attractive. This developed into something totally ridiculous, yet people want it. P0rn develops our attractions and further objectifies those involved.

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Posted by: DRO kid510
Your thread lost its validity the moment you started throwing out random numbers for statistics.
The only statistic I made was a joke about the flood. I will remove it if you don't like it.

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  • 02.10.2011 10:48 AM PDT

People have such varied desires and fetishes that the idea of pr0n somehow influencing that to any dangerous degree is completely ridiculous.

[Edited on 02.10.2011 10:48 AM PST]

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Posted by: MideonNViscera
Expectation: Get a girl who looks the way you want.
How many people look like p0rn stars? Even if they are good looking, they normally wont look as good as what they are used to, making them want to return to p0rn.

Addiction: Get a girl who lets you beat off.Maybe, but surely she would rather you don't do it over another girl, and would rather you not do it at all.

Objectification: Get a girl who does what you want in bed.That is playing along with objectification, not an answer for it. You should love the individual.

Oh look, problem solved.It seems not...

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  • 02.10.2011 10:51 AM PDT

Doc: "i'm a pacifist"
Caboose: "your a thing that babies suck on?"
Tucker: "no dude, that's a pedephile"
Church: "tucker, i think he means a pacifier"


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Posted by: SweetTRIX

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Posted by: mahspoonis2big
How is society giving us our sex drive?
I never said that it was, but it changed what we find attractive. In some African cultures, being overweight is attractive, as it shows wealth. In our culture, some one objectifying themselves is seen as attractive.

- JFKES


What? You do realize that the adult entertainment industry follows trends of attraction right? They don't set them.
Clearly, but they take them to new levels. Take for example some people finding big breasts attractive. This developed into something totally ridiculous, yet people want it. P0rn develops our attractions and further objectifies those involved.

- JFKES


I disagree, -blam!- does little more than to visualize a persons fantasy, hence why it is offered in so many flavors. Peoples perversions have been around since, well, people. Stating that -blam!- is responsible for shaping such things is ignorant at best, if anything it simply feeds of perversions already in place. IMO The only thing the adult entertainment industry increases is accessibility.

  • 02.10.2011 10:51 AM PDT

So I should be willing to live my life with some uggo because she has a good personality? I know we teach children that life is a fairy tale, but it doesn't actually work that way.

  • 02.10.2011 10:52 AM PDT

All valid points.

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Posted by: MideonNViscera
People have such varied desires and fetishes that the idea of pr0n somehow influencing that to any dangerous degree is completely ridiculous.
It is dangerous to relationships, and to say it isn't is simply not looking at what is presented in front of us. We choose to not believe the facts, because we have been convinced by the internet that there is nothing bad that happens as a result. People need to wake up and see the truth.

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Posted by: MideonNViscera
So I should be willing to live my life with some uggo because she has a good personality? I know we teach children that life is a fairy tale, but it doesn't actually work that way.
If you are in a long term relationship with someone simply because they are good looking, don't you think that is slightly shallow?

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  • 02.10.2011 10:54 AM PDT

Take a step back with me and enjoy a taste of the bittersweet that is our current generation.

I enjoy Battlefield and Call of Duty, and Gears of War.

20 years old, manager of my family's business, aspiring officer of the law.

I love anything political.

If these truly have an effect on one's relationship, then perhaps the relationship isn't as tightly knit as once thought. If you truly have feelings for somebody on the emotional level, this should never be an issue, because if it does, it proves that these are either fostered feelings or she is there simply for the entertainment.

I put value into relationships more than others, so I think. I cannot see myself falling prey to any of the aforementioned.

  • 02.10.2011 10:54 AM PDT