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Subject: Halo CE remake: the changes that 343 could implement

I have created this forum before (I think) I can't find it so here it is again (I have searched everywhere).

EDIT: People have repeatedly said that none of my suggestions that I wrote under Multiplayer would work in campaign. Please read this carefully and note when I'm talking about campaign and when I'm talking about Multiplayer. It is clearly stated what I'm talking about throughout this whole post. Thanks


I think they should leave campaign totally alone accept for graphics redo and possibly vehicle physics. Multiplayer will obviously keep all the original maps including those on pc, maybe even include some created with custom edition.

unfortunately I don't think the original weapons in Multiplayer will be enough for a modern FPS. The following are the original weapons (brackets=PC version):
pistol, AR, shotgun, rockets, sniper, plasma pistol, plasma rifle, needler, (fuel rod), (flamethrower)
I suggest we add BR, laser, brute shot and possible some sort of tracking explosive (missile pod?). Discuss carbine aswell. sword is already in CE just not usable by humans so lets make it usable. Turrets may be useful aswell but this raises the issue if they are portable and if they are does the flamethrower come under this catergory like in halo 3 or is it a normal weapon like in halo PC? What could also work is the SMG from halo 3 ODST...discuss.

The original vehicles in MM are warthog, (rocket hog), ghost, (banshee) and Tank. I think we should add wraith, gauss hog, mongoose, hornet and maybe falcon. discuss sceptre aswell.

I personally don't want amour abilities. If equipment like in Halo 3 can be successfully integrated then I wouldn't mind that, otherwise I also don't mind. please discuss armour abilities and equipment though.

I think 343 could make some new maps aswell but here's what I suggest. They can make a huge forgable map with different land scapes and many items of different design e.g. forerunner ruin, forerunner structure, human, covenant, natural. within that 343 can make a few of their own forged maps that count as the new ones.

Now for the ranking system. I suggest something similar to Halo 3 where you have Highest skill and EXP, accept there are some significant changes. Firstly true skill is calculate not only from wins and loses but also from how you played in game, that way if your team looses but you played well you don't go down (might even go up) and it also prevents boosting. Obviously wining will play a large factor since that is primarily why we play. EXP will not be like in Halo 3 but more like cR from Halo Reach. You will earn it the same way at the end of every game but probably not from campaign, only multiplayer. The ranks require true skill like in Halo 3 and cR...but with a slight twist. you need true skill between 1-50 for ranks up to general. After that you only go up in rank by earning cR. The ranks after general will go up to Inheritor (like in Reach) or something similar. you have to have a 50 to get to those ranks though. This is a good system in my opinion because it harnesses skill like it did in halo 3 but also means people will still have ranks to acquire even after reaching general.

The playlists will be ranked and social. Ranked will include:
lone wolves
team doubles
team slayer
squad battle
team swat
team objective
MLG
Team snipers (maybe)
social playlists:

same as above (not ranked though and called something different)
multiteam
living dead(maybe)

Obviously these are just what I suggest and 343 can do what they think best. maybe some sort of double EXP weekend can be remade. discuss.

I would prefer not to have Firefight but that's my opinion so please discuss this. Forge I mentioned before. Theatre should be include and it should be able to take more than 1 person in the party. Armour can be unlocked similar to Halo Reach. scoring can be activated for campaign.

A few more things are if we can put skulls/data pads in the campaign. I know I said keep everything the same but this is hardly anything since it will be hidden and you won't see it unless your looking for it. it could include an interesting side story...maybe something to do with De Sylva,McKay and the rest of the ODSTs from Halo: The Flood. discuss.

I think I have covered everything. Please discuss what you think and mention what changes you would like and why. It would be really interesting to see what others think.

Thanks







[Edited on 02.10.2011 1:37 PM PST]

  • 02.10.2011 10:18 AM PDT

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Regarding armor unlocks and daily challenges

I think they should keep the Daily Challenges and stuff. I really like them. However, they could have them give awards after you've completed so many.

For instance,

Complete 20 Daily Challenges: Unlock some funny Spartan Shoes
Complete 40 Daily Challenges: Helmet Attachment
Complete 100 Daily Challenges: Visor with Band-aids on it
Complete 200 Daily Challenges: Funny boxer shorts to go over your Spartan's armor
Complete 1000 Daily Challenges: Probably some sort of neat hat
Complete 5 Weekly Challenges: CRAZY GLOVES!
Complete 20 Weekly Challenges: Maybe some more funny shoes


Stuff like that - rewards for completing challenges. Rewards that aren't just credits! It'd be cool if this was in the next game by 343. Thoughts?

PS: Doesn't have to be goofy rewards, but I think that'd be fun. Everyone loves some sort of neat hat.

  • 02.10.2011 10:24 AM PDT

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I am the last of the primes.


Posted by: TheDocSprinkles
Regarding armor unlocks and daily challenges

I think they should keep the Daily Challenges and stuff. I really like them. However, they could have them give awards after you've completed so many.

For instance,

Complete 20 Daily Challenges: Unlock some funny Spartan Shoes
Complete 40 Daily Challenges: Helmet Attachment
Complete 100 Daily Challenges: Visor with Band-aids on it
Complete 200 Daily Challenges: Funny boxer shorts to go over your Spartan's armor
Complete 1000 Daily Challenges: Probably some sort of neat hat
Complete 5 Weekly Challenges: CRAZY GLOVES!
Complete 20 Weekly Challenges: Maybe some more funny shoes


Stuff like that - rewards for completing challenges. Rewards that aren't just credits! It'd be cool if this was in the next game by 343. Thoughts?

PS: Doesn't have to be goofy rewards, but I think that'd be fun. Everyone loves some sort of neat hat.



sounds like cod somehow...


HELL NO ARE YOU HIGH?



I agree with op, but they have to nerf the pistol...
And don't make hogs 1 hit kills when they hit a sprtan or elite..

  • 02.10.2011 10:30 AM PDT

Posted by: TheDocSprinkles
Regarding armor unlocks and daily challenges

I think they should keep the Daily Challenges and stuff. I really like them. However, they could have them give awards after you've completed so many.

For instance,

Complete 20 Daily Challenges: Unlock some funny Spartan Shoes
Complete 40 Daily Challenges: Helmet Attachment
Complete 100 Daily Challenges: Visor with Band-aids on it
Complete 200 Daily Challenges: Funny boxer shorts to go over your Spartan's armor
Complete 1000 Daily Challenges: Probably some sort of neat hat
Complete 5 Weekly Challenges: CRAZY GLOVES!
Complete 20 Weekly Challenges: Maybe some more funny shoes


Stuff like that - rewards for completing challenges. Rewards that aren't just credits! It'd be cool if this was in the next game by 343. Thoughts?

PS: Doesn't have to be goofy rewards, but I think that'd be fun. Everyone loves some sort of neat hat.



this would be good

  • 02.10.2011 10:35 AM PDT

Posted by: ferrrari

Posted by: TheDocSprinkles
Regarding armor unlocks and daily challenges

I think they should keep the Daily Challenges and stuff. I really like them. However, they could have them give awards after you've completed so many.

For instance,

Complete 20 Daily Challenges: Unlock some funny Spartan Shoes
Complete 40 Daily Challenges: Helmet Attachment
Complete 100 Daily Challenges: Visor with Band-aids on it
Complete 200 Daily Challenges: Funny boxer shorts to go over your Spartan's armor
Complete 1000 Daily Challenges: Probably some sort of neat hat
Complete 5 Weekly Challenges: CRAZY GLOVES!
Complete 20 Weekly Challenges: Maybe some more funny shoes


Stuff like that - rewards for completing challenges. Rewards that aren't just credits! It'd be cool if this was in the next game by 343. Thoughts?

PS: Doesn't have to be goofy rewards, but I think that'd be fun. Everyone loves some sort of neat hat.



sounds like cod somehow...


HELL NO ARE YOU HIGH?



I agree with op, but they have to nerf the pistol...
And don't make hogs 1 hit kills when they hit a sprtan or elite..


Well yes things will have to be balanced

  • 02.10.2011 10:36 AM PDT

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Falcons and Hornets would only work in completely redesigned levels i.e. new levels. Taking something like that into an existing level (like AotCR or SC) would destroy the levels balance.

  • 02.10.2011 12:13 PM PDT
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The changes 343 could implement here would make the game terrible. No thanks.

  • 02.10.2011 12:19 PM PDT

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yet.


Posted by: flamedude
Falcons and Hornets would only work in completely redesigned levels i.e. new levels. Taking something like that into an existing level (like AotCR or SC) would destroy the levels balance.

I don't think the PoA had any of those.

  • 02.10.2011 12:26 PM PDT

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Posted by: Nyxiz
The changes 343 could implement here would make the game terrible. No thanks.


I agree.

I dont want any of the gameplay dynamics changed. I want Elites to stay the tough enemies with the powerful melees. The Flood too, I want them to be headshot proof again and almost impervious to melees.

I can imagine all those things get messed with in a remake.

  • 02.10.2011 12:28 PM PDT

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Weapons and vehicles in Halo: Combat Evolved (That can be used):
Pistol
Assault Rifle
Shotgun
Sniper Rifle
Rocket Launcher
Plasma Rifle
Needler
Plasma Pistol
Warthog
Scorpion
Ghost
Banshee

Weapons and vehicles in Halo Reach (That can be used):
Assault Rifle
DMR
Pistol
Shotgun
Sniper Rifle
Rocket Launcher
Grenade Launcher
Spartan Laser
Target Locator
Plasma Rifle
Plasma Repeater
Plasma Launcher
Fuel Rod Cannon
Needler
Needler Rifle
Focus Rifle
Concussion Rifle
Energy Sword
Gravity Hammer
Spiker
Warthog
Gauss Warthog
Rocket Warthog
Passenger Warthog
Falcon
Scorpion
Mongoose
Ghost
Wraith
Revenant
Banshee

That's thirteen more. One of the great things about Halo Combat Evolved was its simplicity. Granted, games in 2001 weren't too complex anyway, but even Halo's simple Sandbox made it extremely enriching and complex. If we're talking new weapons and vehicles, I would suggest (Bold text = Weapons that have been added to the sandbox. Italic text = weapons that were already in the game, and are now useable):
Assault Rifle
Pistol
Battle Rifle (Multiplayer only, the Halo 1 pistol must be the mainstay in campaign)
Rocket Launcher
Sniper Rifle
Shotgun
Plasma Rifle
Needler
Plasma Pistol
Energy Sword
Fuel Rod Cannon
Covenant Carbine
Covenant Beam Rifle
Warthog
Gauss Warthog
Passenger Warthog
Mongoose
Falcon
Transport Falcon (No weapons) (Multiplayer only - the Falcon would not have been aboard the Pillar of Autumn)

Scorpion
Ghost
Banshee
Wraith

[Edited on 02.10.2011 12:44 PM PST]

  • 02.10.2011 12:29 PM PDT

If you can read this, that means I'm not a Shaolin monk...

yet.

Thel's fleet did not have most of the stuff they introduced in the newer games. Same goes for the PoA.

  • 02.10.2011 12:29 PM PDT

Posted by: flamedude
Falcons and Hornets would only work in completely redesigned levels i.e. new levels. Taking something like that into an existing level (like AotCR or SC) would destroy the levels balance.


No no no I only meant to have those in Multiplayer.... campaign will be left 100% alone in terms of gameplay.

  • 02.10.2011 1:27 PM PDT

Posted by: Nyxiz
The changes 343 could implement here would make the game terrible. No thanks.


Your opinion here is of very little help because you have not explained your reasons for believing so. If you would care to explain perhaps I could understand where you are coming from.

  • 02.10.2011 1:28 PM PDT

Posted by: flamedude
Posted by: Nyxiz
The changes 343 could implement here would make the game terrible. No thanks.


I agree.

I dont want any of the gameplay dynamics changed. I want Elites to stay the tough enemies with the powerful melees. The Flood too, I want them to be headshot proof again and almost impervious to melees.

I can imagine all those things get messed with in a remake.


Please read my post properly first before you start making comments. You seem to think that I am talking about changes to campaign (you mentioned flood and elites) when I clearly stated campaign should be left alone (Beginning part of second paragraph of original post). I am mainly talking about Multiplayer. Read it again and I'm sure you will see.

  • 02.10.2011 1:31 PM PDT