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Subject: What kind of projectile would a Forerunner tank fire?

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Most of us know that there was going to be a Forerunner tank in Halo 2. But what I want to know is, what would it have shot its enemies with? Some kind of light beam, perhaps?

PS, I haven't read Crpytum yet, it's currently en route to my mailbox. If my question's answered in the book, please, just tell me so and don't spoil anything. I'd be very grateful. However, if this is something unknown, then by all means, I ask you to discuss.

  • 02.11.2011 12:10 AM PDT

I'd say some kind of energy beam, or maybe a more powerful version of the Wraith mortar.

  • 02.11.2011 12:13 AM PDT

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That's a good point, I never thought of the Wraith mortar. Perhaps, the Wraith was created through reverse engineering weapons from Forerunner tanks?

  • 02.11.2011 12:29 AM PDT


Posted by: OfTheBloodguard
That's a good point, I never thought of the Wraith mortar. Perhaps, the Wraith was created through reverse engineering weapons from Forerunner tanks?

That's what I was thinking, The Covenant base a lot of their technology on Forerunner technology.

  • 02.11.2011 12:38 AM PDT

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Posted by: OfTheBloodguard
That's a good point, I never thought of the Wraith mortar. Perhaps, the Wraith was created through reverse engineering weapons from Forerunner tanks?

That's what I was thinking, The Covenant base a lot of their technology on Forerunner technology.

Yeah. Thanks, man. I'd got it in my head that seeing the Forerunner had those light guns in Legends, that most of their weaponry would act the same (a kind of silly thought, as I look over it now).

  • 02.11.2011 12:57 AM PDT

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Posted by: OfTheBloodguard
That's a good point, I never thought of the Wraith mortar. Perhaps, the Wraith was created through reverse engineering weapons from Forerunner tanks?

That's what I was thinking, The Covenant base a lot of their technology on Forerunner technology.

Yeah. Thanks, man. I'd got it in my head that seeing the Forerunner had those light guns in Legends, that most of their weaponry would act the same (a kind of silly thought, as I look over it now).


maybe the tanks do fire light beams but when the covenant tried to re make it, it shoot a less powerful mortar.

  • 02.11.2011 1:16 AM PDT

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Posted by: DarkJet7
maybe the tanks do fire light beams but when the covenant tried to re make it, it shoot a less powerful mortar.

Maybe, maybe. Or maybe they purposely designed the Wraith to shoot plasma mortars.

  • 02.11.2011 1:26 AM PDT

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Tanks are obselete right now in present day, an ultra advanced galaxy spanning civilisation would likely have done away with the idea of tanks. According to the books there are sentinels that are amazing on Onyx.

The Forerunner would likely have all different kinds of Sentinels to fill the roles in their armies.

  • 02.11.2011 1:45 AM PDT

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Forerunner weapons were energy weapons far more advanced than even the Covenant's shipboard Energy Projector.
I imagine the Forerunner Tank would be equipped with such a device, though this would relegate it to almost artillery.
Firing tactical pulses of such a beam would make its use and application more tank-like.Posted by: OfTheBloodguard
Posted by: DarkJet7
maybe the tanks do fire light beams but when the covenant tried to re make it, it shoot a less powerful mortar.

Maybe, maybe. Or maybe they purposely designed the Wraith to shoot plasma mortars.
Yes, considering how the Covenant do have long-range direct-fire plasma weapons.

[Edited on 02.11.2011 2:53 AM PST]

  • 02.11.2011 2:52 AM PDT

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It'd probably just shoot more powerful versions of the sentinal beam/343 beam. All the forerunner weapons I know of are just beams except for the wierd thing in Halo 2. I think it was called the enforcer??

  • 02.11.2011 2:56 AM PDT

I would have thought that it would fire somthing similar to the spartan laser, but blue and a lot more powerfull.

  • 02.11.2011 3:36 AM PDT
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It'd be "Hard Light" of the kind used in Forerunner bridges, surely.

I'd say it would fire a beam of Hard Light, impacting targets at the speed of, well, light.

  • 02.11.2011 4:16 AM PDT

I heard somewhere that the Forerunners where a peaceful type and that they didn't have many "weapons". I would consider them to have a more defensive role.

[Edited on 02.11.2011 4:38 AM PST]

  • 02.11.2011 4:36 AM PDT

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Posted by: I Judge Bread I
Tanks are obselete right now in present day, an ultra advanced galaxy spanning civilisation would likely have done away with the idea of tanks. According to the books there are sentinels that are amazing on Onyx.

The Forerunner would likely have all different kinds of Sentinels to fill the roles in their armies.


Not really the answer I was looking for, but you're probably right. And you're talking about... well, Onyx Sentinels, aren't you?

To everyone else, I was pretty much thinking the same as you. Though the descriptions vary, it would seem we're building a better picture of what this tank, if the Forerunners actually made such a thing (I'm starting to like Judge Bread's train of thought), would fire.

  • 02.11.2011 4:59 AM PDT


Posted by: SpitefulSamurai
I heard somewhere that the Forerunners where a peaceful type and that they didn't have many "weapons". I would consider them to have a more defensive role.


They spoke softly, and carried a big stick. Cryptum reveiled that they had no qualms attacking a troublesome race.

They have vehicles in Cryptum that remind me of mechs, or zoids, described as war sphinxes. These had some type of directed energy weapon, which was employed as an excavation beam. These where piloted craft, but where probably AI drivable too. The ones in Cryptum being special.

[Edited on 02.11.2011 5:23 AM PST]

  • 02.11.2011 5:21 AM PDT

Tanks are not obsolete. Operation Desert Storm proved that. It's just we don't have anyone to shoot at these days so lighter and faster armoured vehicles are preferable. If and When we start another world war, tanks will once again be of use to us.

As for the Forerunner tank, I'd say a light "shell", a pulsed light gun, most likely with overwhelming (by our standards) firepower and RoF. It would have an insane range, probably hundreds of kilometres, and able to follow the curvature of the planet, follow a pre-determined target or be linked to the shooters neural network for accuracy.

  • 02.11.2011 5:29 AM PDT

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Im assuming something based on heat and light. That would cool...

  • 02.11.2011 6:55 AM PDT
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It wouldn't, their palm of their hand would release invisi-beams that kill cells, thus, killing their target. (like the force, lol) Or they don't even fight, they just use sentinels, not tanks.

  • 02.11.2011 6:56 AM PDT

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I would imagine it would fire with the same material of a Sentinel Beam, but with the power of a Wraith mortar.

  • 02.11.2011 7:00 AM PDT

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It would beat everything.

  • 02.11.2011 7:07 AM PDT

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  • 02.11.2011 9:34 AM PDT

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Either a light-based weapon or some other form of particle beam. Forerunners didn't really use plasma much.

EDIT: (Cryptum Spoilers!) Tanks were obsolete for Forerunners. Even their outdated combat skins were capable of leveling entire cities.

[Edited on 02.11.2011 5:36 PM PST]

  • 02.11.2011 11:36 AM PDT

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  • 02.11.2011 12:22 PM PDT

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1) Covenant weapons WERE reverse engineered from forerunner technology, but from much more primitive weapon technology, much akin to comparing the brute spiker to the plasma rifle. The brute spiker and plama rifle both fill the same role, but the spiker is much more primitive, as it is not strictly forerunner, but inflicts similar terrifying wounds to their target. The covenent must not be able to reverse-engineer later forerunner weapons, but why would they need to? If a sligtly less advanced weapon does the same thing as a more advanced weapon, why spend the effort in developing the latter? If you don't think that this is true, then why aren't the covenant using their own sentinels to fight wars?

2) First things first, what would a forerunner vehicle even look like yet alone fire? I agree with the theories that it fires a blue light beam, probably made of "hard light" (spartan laser?) due to the weapon seen in Halo Legends and the way that the forerunners build (some)bridges. the forerunners might not even have something like a tank. More likely they would use something silimar to a Hawk (halo Wars) as tanks are often slow and have limited transportational capabilities. This is not to say that they didn't have their uses for ground vehicles as planets are still large, even for forerunners.

  • 02.11.2011 2:57 PM PDT

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Posted by: firedune
1) Covenant weapons WERE reverse engineered from forerunner technology, but from much more primitive weapon technology, much akin to comparing the brute spiker to the plasma rifle. The brute spiker and plama rifle both fill the same role, but the spiker is much more primitive, as it is not strictly forerunner, but inflicts similar terrifying wounds to their target. The covenent must not be able to reverse-engineer later forerunner weapons, but why would they need to? If a sligtly less advanced weapon does the same thing as a more advanced weapon, why spend the effort in developing the latter? If you don't think that this is true, then why aren't the covenant using their own sentinels to fight wars?

2) First things first, what would a forerunner vehicle even look like yet alone fire? I agree with the theories that it fires a blue light beam, probably made of "hard light" (spartan laser?) due to the weapon seen in Halo Legends and the way that the forerunners build (some)bridges. the forerunners might not even have something like a tank. More likely they would use something silimar to a Hawk (halo Wars) as tanks are often slow and have limited transportational capabilities. This is not to say that they didn't have their uses for ground vehicles as planets are still large, even for forerunners.


1. That's also true. The Forerunner have their own alloy or something, don't they? But... do they have Sentinels on High Charity/the Dreadnaught? I'd say the tech that the Prophets have to work with is kinda limited, in a way. That, or they're just creating purpose-driven weapons, as you said. (If I got anything wrong there, let me know.)

2. Tbh, what Judge Bread (and you also) said kinda rings home. It might just be some super Sentinel or something, like a Strato-Sentinel, but fitted to the max with guns and other things. Imagine that...

  • 02.11.2011 11:52 PM PDT