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Subject: Precursors living in Andromeda?

"Shall we let the Flood consume our holy city? Turn High Charity into another of their wretched hives? No enemy has ever withstood our might. The Flood, too, shall fail."

-Prophet of Truth.

Think about it. Precursors created the Flood. Precursors can travel between galaxies.

When the Forerunners defeated the Precursors, it would make sense that the Precursors had some sort of back-up plan. Since Andromeda is the closest galaxy to the Milky Way, they would go reside in that galaxy.

The Forerunner-Precursor war took place 150,000 years before the Human-Covenant war. Now, the Forerunners met the Flood about 100,000 years before the Human-Covenant war.

This would mean that it took the Precursors 50,000 years to develop the Flood and send them to the Milky Way.

With not that many survivors, I think it would make sense that it would take this many years for the Precursors to rebuild, reproduce, etc.

Why don't the Precursors just go back and attack the Forerunners? Perhaps they were afraid that the Forerunners had achieved Tier 0. They didn't want to reveal their position, or lose anymore of their kind. They took the tactical approach and sent the Flood in.

When the Precursor prisoner says he is the last one of his kind, maybe he is just saying that to delude the Forerunners, or maybe he doesn't know that any of his kind had survived?

The Flood appeared as powder trapped inside jugs on ancient ships. Why would they be ancient if Precursors are Tier 0? Either the design was on purpose, or the ships degraded from long travel.

The Precursors had to start all over again. Instead of waiting to get back into Tier 0, maybe they sent the Flood after 20,000 years. It then took the ship 30,000 years to reach the Milky Way.

Thoughts?

  • 02.12.2011 11:58 AM PDT

There was a rather large time-gap between the Precursor/Forerunner War and the initial contact with the flood. Seriously, the forerunners during Cryptum didn't even know that they had a war with them.

I honestly don't think that the Precursors and the Flood are related.

  • 02.12.2011 12:02 PM PDT

"Shall we let the Flood consume our holy city? Turn High Charity into another of their wretched hives? No enemy has ever withstood our might. The Flood, too, shall fail."

-Prophet of Truth.


Posted by: Plasma3150
There was a rather large time-gap between the Precursor/Forerunner War and the initial contact with the flood. Seriously, the forerunners during Cryptum didn't even know that they had a war with them.

I honestly don't think that the Precursors and the Flood are related.


On halopedia it says 150,000 years, and Bornstellar somehow knew about it. Since the Forerunners during that time period most likely put it in the Domain, everyone would have known about it. Ofc the Domain was corrupt during the book anyways.

  • 02.12.2011 12:11 PM PDT


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Posted by: Plasma3150
There was a rather large time-gap between the Precursor/Forerunner War and the initial contact with the flood. Seriously, the forerunners during Cryptum didn't even know that they had a war with them.

I honestly don't think that the Precursors and the Flood are related.


On halopedia it says 150,000 years, and Bornstellar somehow knew about it. Since the Forerunners during that time period most likely put it in the Domain, everyone would have known about it. Ofc the Domain was corrupt during the book anyways.
Still, that was 40,000 years. Why wait that long? Why use something so volatile as the Flood?

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  • 02.12.2011 12:22 PM PDT


Posted by: TallestSpark
Think about it. Precursors created the Flood. Precursors can travel between galaxies.

When the Forerunners defeated the Precursors, it would make sense that the Precursors had some sort of back-up plan. Since Andromeda is the closest galaxy to the Milky Way, they would go reside in that galaxy.

The Forerunner-Precursor war took place 150,000 years before the Human-Covenant war. Now, the Forerunners met the Flood about 100,000 years before the Human-Covenant war.

This would mean that it took the Precursors 50,000 years to develop the Flood and send them to the Milky Way.

With not that many survivors, I think it would make sense that it would take this many years for the Precursors to rebuild, reproduce, etc.

Why don't the Precursors just go back and attack the Forerunners? Perhaps they were afraid that the Forerunners had achieved Tier 0. They didn't want to reveal their position, or lose anymore of their kind. They took the tactical approach and sent the Flood in.

When the Precursor prisoner says he is the last one of his kind, maybe he is just saying that to delude the Forerunners, or maybe he doesn't know that any of his kind had survived?

The Flood appeared as powder trapped inside jugs on ancient ships. Why would they be ancient if Precursors are Tier 0? Either the design was on purpose, or the ships degraded from long travel.

The Precursors had to start all over again. Instead of waiting to get back into Tier 0, maybe they sent the Flood after 20,000 years. It then took the ship 30,000 years to reach the Milky Way.

Thoughts?


This is a good thought; I never really beleived the infinitely powerful Precursors were destroyed completely, just driven fom this galaxy.

Though, I will point out that the Forerunner-Precursor war happened several million years ago, not 150,000

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@OP

Did you even read the book?Because you use halopedian as a source instead of the book???

You are mixing your own fanon info with canon info,like the precursors living in stars

  • 02.12.2011 3:32 PM PDT

"Shall we let the Flood consume our holy city? Turn High Charity into another of their wretched hives? No enemy has ever withstood our might. The Flood, too, shall fail."

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Posted by: hotshot revan II
@OP

Did you even read the book?Because you use halopedian as a source instead of the book???

You are mixing your own fanon info with canon info,like the precursors living in stars


Wrong. I only used Halopedia for the 150,000 year thing. Cryptum did say that Precursors lived in stars. I'll look through and give you the page number.

  • 02.12.2011 8:33 PM PDT

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Posted by: TallestSpark
You are mixing your own fanon info with canon info,like the precursors living in stars[/quote]

Wrong. I only used Halopedia for the 150,000 year thing. Cryptum did say that Precursors lived in stars. I'll look through and give you the page number.

Just a heads up, the 150,000 year thing was wrong, and the average Forerunner had no idea about the war between the Precursors and the Forerunners. In fact they sought out and worshiped the Precursor relics.

  • 02.12.2011 8:37 PM PDT

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The Human-Forerunner War was 150,000 years ago. The
Forerunner-Precursor war was long before that.

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Posted by: hotshot revan II
@OP

Did you even read the book?Because you use halopedian as a source instead of the book???

You are mixing your own fanon info with canon info,like the precursors living in stars


Wrong. I only used Halopedia for the 150,000 year thing. Cryptum did say that Precursors lived in stars. I'll look through and give you the page number.


Ok

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  • 02.13.2011 3:04 AM PDT

If the almighty Precursors created the flood why would they first attack the humans and San 'Shyuum? when it was the Forerunners that defeated them...

  • 02.13.2011 5:17 AM PDT

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If the almighty Precursors created the flood why would they first attack the humans and San 'Shyuum? when it was the Forerunners that defeated them...

Because they were in the way?

  • 02.13.2011 5:26 AM PDT


Posted by: hotshot revan II
@OP

Did you even read the book?Because you use halopedian as a source instead of the book???

You are mixing your own fanon info with canon info,like the precursors living in stars


Forerunners could live in stars. Not as a vacation or anything, but Stellar Engineers would live in stars, so I think Precursors could.

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Posted by: hotshot revan II
@OP

Did you even read the book?Because you use halopedian as a source instead of the book???

You are mixing your own fanon info with canon info,like the precursors living in stars


Forerunners could live in stars. Not as a vacation or anything, but Stellar Engineers would live in stars, so I think Precursors could.


But he said that it was stated in the book that the forerunners destroyed the precursors by blowing up stars,something i never read in the book(based on my memories)

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Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: hotshot revan II
@OP

Did you even read the book?Because you use halopedian as a source instead of the book???

You are mixing your own fanon info with canon info,like the precursors living in stars


Forerunners could live in stars. Not as a vacation or anything, but Stellar Engineers would live in stars, so I think Precursors could.


But he said that it was stated in the book that the forerunners destroyed the precursors by blowing up stars,something i never read in the book(based on my memories)



I've read cryptum 3 times now and i haven't seen anything stating

A) that the forerunners lived in stars

B) That the precursors lived in stars

C) how the forerunners defeated the precursors

I remember reading that plasma jockeys would "tame" young stars for future use with magnetic fields and such but don't remember anything about them living in them. But being very close to the stars and how they would love the heat. so please get a page number or spot spreading nonsense.


The forerunners fought the flood by causing stars to go supernova and collapse a star system. That i do remember from the terminals, other than that the didn't fight using this method since it was too destructive.

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  • 02.13.2011 3:29 PM PDT

"Shall we let the Flood consume our holy city? Turn High Charity into another of their wretched hives? No enemy has ever withstood our might. The Flood, too, shall fail."

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Posted by: hotshot revan II

Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: hotshot revan II
@OP

Did you even read the book?Because you use halopedian as a source instead of the book???

You are mixing your own fanon info with canon info,like the precursors living in stars


Forerunners could live in stars. Not as a vacation or anything, but Stellar Engineers would live in stars, so I think Precursors could.


But he said that it was stated in the book that the forerunners destroyed the precursors by blowing up stars,something i never read in the book(based on my memories)



I've read cryptum 3 times now and i haven't seen anything stating

A) that the forerunners lived in stars

B) That the precursors lived in stars

C) how the forerunners defeated the precursors

I remember reading that plasma jockeys would "tame" young stars for future use with magnetic fields and such but don't remember anything about them living in them. But being very close to the stars and how they would love the heat. so please get a page number or spot spreading nonsense.


The forerunners fought the flood by causing stars to go supernova and collapse a star system. That i do remember from the terminals, other than that the didn't fight using this method since it was too destructive.


.....? Forerunners didn't fight the Flood. The Flood slowly destroyed them until they had to activate the Halos.

And I think I did make a mistake in the reading. I think I read what you read about them destroying stars. They destroyed stars to destroy Precursors, but they stopped when they almost destroyed themselves.

Personally, I think that is the only logical theory. The Forerunners would get massacred by Precursors considering they aren't even Tier 0 yet, or super beings. They wouldn't last long in a long war, so they would have to do it very quickly and precisely.

I'm trying to find where I've seen that they lived in stars, but I probably missread it and it instead said they live CLOSE to stars.

  • 02.14.2011 4:01 PM PDT


Posted by: hotshot revan II

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Posted by: hotshot revan II
@OP

Did you even read the book?Because you use halopedian as a source instead of the book???

You are mixing your own fanon info with canon info,like the precursors living in stars


Forerunners could live in stars. Not as a vacation or anything, but Stellar Engineers would live in stars, so I think Precursors could.


But he said that it was stated in the book that the forerunners destroyed the precursors by blowing up stars,something i never read in the book(based on my memories)



Right, that...well, I don't know where he got that from. It is never stated anywhere in the book that the Forerunners destroyed Precursors save for that one mentioning.

Everything was just speculation, but it isn't any less a possibility.

^^^No man, Cryptum never gives any details pertaining to how the Forerunners defeated the Precursors. Destroying stars would have no effect on the Precursors and their neural material anyway.

[Edited on 02.14.2011 4:15 PM PST]

  • 02.14.2011 4:13 PM PDT