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Subject: What would you do to go back to the H2 days of glory/see a remake.

R.I.P. Halo 2 11/9/04-4/15/10
If you havn't played Halo 2 online than you are missing so much. Plus if you have played a good amount of Halo 2 online, I might have a better chance of listening to anything you say.


Posted by: JacobGRocks

Posted by: EvoX Domeshot

Posted by: JacobGRocks

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Everyone just report JacobGRocks so he can stop trolling already, everyone here is just trying to talk about there great memories on Halo 2 and you just ruin by trolling. Just get off of these forums, go out side, go lay down in the street and get hit by a car.

Banning is only temporary, and the bans here are weak. Also report shock120 and DuSK...oh wait, still not banned. I'm not breaking rules, just telling you h2 is overrated.


Ok and you have made your point so leave. You tell us to move on, yet you yourself have not moved on from trying to tell us Halo 2 is bad.

For us, no other online game has given us the great memories Halo 2 did. There was much fun to be had and many great times to be had. It also had a great matchmaking manager named Jeramiah. Halo 3 had Shishka who I have to say is the worst matchmaking manager for any game ever made. Reach has Jeremiah again but unfortunately, he is managing a game that was specificaly made for casual gamers.

I ask you now, leave and never come back. You have no business trolling here. If you stay on the Halo 2 forum any longer, I will see you as a guy that is jealous of us because we know how to enjoy a great game. Maybe you would have had friends to enjoy the game with if you weren't such a -blam!-.

Nice nolagista goggles there...gotta love them goggles. Also, h2 was made for casuals too, and you can pretend it's skill based all you want, but it isn't.

Also, I'm loling @ your last paragraph.


So tell me JacobGTrolls, if Halo 3 and Reach are so much better and skill based, then why do you suck at those games too. You can't even maintain atleast a 1.00 k/d in Halo 3 social.

Nostalgia goggles? Really? Are you that big of an idiot? I never left Halo 2 after Halo 3 came out. I always played it every month after Halo 3 came out. I'm sorry if you think I was one of those people that did not come back until the shutdown was announced.

Face it, you have nothing more than videos of idiots to back up your claims. Have fun in Halo 3 where the lack of hitscan causes your shots to not register on the host. A game where who has the better connection wins. In Halo 2 where it is not all about connection, it is an even playing field and only the person with more skill and reflexes will win.

[Edited on 02.13.2011 7:53 PM PST]

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Posted by: JacobGRocks

Posted by: MetKiddo

No. You are convinced it's the truth.
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It is the truth.
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Its an opinion, and i think we know yours already.

You can't blame people for not doing playing Halo 2 on xbc.
Personaly i want plug and play, i'd like to put the game in my xbox and instantly be able to play online. Thats a standard today.
XBC/Xlink is too troublesome. Yes you can play Halo 2 that way, but it's without ranks, matchmaking and all that. And it's not always easy to connect to your buddies.

Ranks are pointless, Matchmaking was slow, and you can make parties on both. Oh, and PC PORT!

Matchmaking worked fine, and if we are to get a remake you can expect peformance to be increased.
I respect your opinion, but ranks and matchmaking are not pointless to me. Don't get me wrong, i like custom games too, but i also like to be paired against random people on random maps. It's an easy way to find people if your friends are not online. MM in Halo 2 was only slow at the times where people modded or standbyed, before that it was running as it should.
The pc port is pointless, mainly because it's on pc and it dosen't have matchmaking, only custom games. My friends don't play pc (neither do i btw), so this version is very pointless for us. + I don't feel like getting a usb 360 controller. Do party chat even work between platforms (360 and pc?).

Halo 2 is old, i don't see whats so odd about people not buying old games, even less when you think about there is no online in that game anymore.

But you didn't answer my question. We already heard you think Halo 2 sucks, and thats cool and all. But why are you here, every day, on the Halo 2 board, telling us how much you hate it. Isen't that like a waste of time?

Holy Crap, someone found it! Halo 2 is old, and no one cares. And I'm posting here because it's fun to post here, while you keep moaning about how you want a remake so bad.

Halo 2 is old and obviously people care, not including you of course..
You could argue that Halo 2 has been played to death, but the fact remains that i'd much rather play Halo 2 multiplayer than Reach's. Im far from the only one.
You sound more and more like a troll, that for some reason have nothing better with his life to do, than troll.
I also like how you dogde the other boardmembers points, and mine.

A remake of Halo:CE/Halo 2 will happen. Halo:CE first and possible in november as rumored, and then there is no reason why we shoulden't get a Halo 2 remake. People loves this stuff, and it's easy money for microsoft.
A Halo 2 remake with online coop would also mean that i'd finaly be able to explore campaing with my friends across the country. Getting the scarab gun and football for once, and go skillhunting there is still much fun in Halo 2 to be had.

  • 02.14.2011 1:33 AM PDT

Good call, I like what everyone here (with one exception) has been saying, it's good to get a discussion started up about this because you guys know that if it sparks enough interest it's as good as a done deal.

Oh guys, and btw, the reason JacobGRocks is mad, is because he had 1752 kills and 4128 deaths in Halo 2 online, it's because he's terrible at and has some vendetta against it; that's why he bashes it so hard.

[Edited on 02.14.2011 4:10 AM PST]

  • 02.14.2011 4:10 AM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.



Oh guys, and btw, the reason JacobGRocks is mad, is because he had 1752 kills and 4128 deaths in Halo 2 online, it's because he's terrible at and has some vendetta against it; that's why he bashes it so hard.

Oh right, another nub pulling the "NO U SUK" excuse to bash me. The campaign sucked too, and the MP was overrated. As for what that one uploader uploaded.....try it yourself. It's real.



Posted by: MetKiddo


Halo 2 is old and obviously people care, not including you of course..
You could argue that Halo 2 has been played to death, but the fact remains that i'd much rather play Halo 2 multiplayer than Reach's. Im far from the only one.
You sound more and more like a troll, that for some reason have nothing better with his life to do, than troll.
I also like how you dogde the other boardmembers points, and mine.

Let's see who still cares:
Modders-Stopped when h3 and jtags came out.
Wannabe MLGs-Went to h3, then reach anyway,
Me-Nope.avi
Microsoft-See above response
People who's mom won't buy them a 360-They still care however..."MOOOM CAN YOU BUY ME A 360?"

A remake of Halo:CE/Halo 2 will happen. Halo:CE first and possible in november as rumored, and then there is no reason why we shoulden't get a Halo 2 remake. People loves this stuff, and it's easy money for microsoft.
A Halo 2 remake with online coop would also mean that i'd finaly be able to explore campaing with my friends across the country. Getting the scarab gun and football for once, and go skillhunting there is still much fun in Halo 2 to be had.

1. A remake doesn't mean a graphical upgrade, they will change stuff and you will moan.
2. Don't say it will, it might not happen. You are acting like tottalymassive again.
"MS WILL BRING BACK H2"
Yeah right.


Posted by: EvoX Domeshot



So tell me JacobGTrolls, if Halo 3 and Reach are so much better and skill based, then why do you suck at those games too. You can't even maintain atleast a 1.00 k/d in Halo 3 social.

Nostalgia goggles? Really? Are you that big of an idiot? I never left Halo 2 after Halo 3 came out. I always played it every month after Halo 3 came out. I'm sorry if you think I was one of those people that did not come back until the shutdown was announced.

Face it, you have nothing more than videos of idiots to back up your claims. Have fun in Halo 3 where the lack of hitscan causes your shots to not register on the host. A game where who has the better connection wins. In Halo 2 where it is not all about connection, it is an even playing field and only the person with more skill and reflexes will win.

Go say that in the Halo 2 PC forum. Halo 2 isn't about skill, and if you think it is there, you will get trolled hard. Your praising would also have been bashed in 04, when h2 here was treated like reach.

Also, no one cares about stats in Halo 2 or 3. Ask this user.


Posted by: DusK


Seriously, H2/3/R is absolutely NO reflection of FPS skill. Any game that rewards you for spamming explosives, hiding in corners with shotguns, and being "close enough" with precision weapon shots is certainly no reflection of FPS skill. It can be fun as hell, but you're certainly not good at FPS for having a high KDR/rank in it, nor are you bad at FPS for having a low KDR/rank in it.

Direct your hate mail to him.


[Edited on 02.14.2011 6:16 AM PST]

  • 02.14.2011 5:41 AM PDT

My Youtube - Halo 2 Online Co-op
BUNGIE AND MICROSOFT FAILS HALO 2 VISTA.

Everytime someone buys a copy of Halo 2 Vista, a puppy dies.

Halo 2 Vista is the only option.

If you wait long enough, the CXBX or DXBX project could be a better option. :3

  • 02.14.2011 5:52 AM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.


Posted by: Frank_Sknaw

I'm not sure if I would want a remake of it because I feel like the game would be changed up too much for me to enjoy it. I also feel like it wouldn't be as great as the glory days of Halo 2. When Halo 2 was first released, Xbox Live was still a new experience to many people as H2 was a huge factor in drawing in many members to the service. Custom games ran rampant around this time, strangers were more open to play with others, everyone was very talkative as there was no private chat and everyone who bought xbox live had a free mic, clan matches, discovering glitches for the first time...the list just goes on and on.

Halo 2 brought me very happy memories that I will always cherish. It sounds kind of silly that a videogame would be a such a big part of my life but it was honestly some of the best days I've experienced. Nothing in terms of gaming will ever top Halo for me...it even surpasses the N64 days of playing Goldeneye, Mario Kart, Star Fox, etc.


And then there was always the other side.

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JacobGRocks, i don't want to argue with you, if you continue to do it on your current level.
I have tried to give you my point of view, but i can't seem to get a decent response.

Im well aware that people also bashed Halo 2 back in the days where it was new. I told you that i agree that the hitboxes where too big, and the auto aim was way too high. But besides that, it was a very competetive game especially when tweaked with MLG settings. Saying the game didn't require any skill is far from the truth. There is a reason why MLG picked it up, and why it almost was the same team that won.

A remake might mean a graphical update. Personaly I don't need it remade with the Reach engine, or any other engine for that matter. But if they are to remake it, they need to provide new content, in Halo 2's case i'd say it needs: achievments, online coop and multiplayer and a graphical overhaul(just like perfect dark on xbla). It's inevitable that people will complain about changes in a remake, but thats just how it is.

You tell me that i act total massive again for saying a remake will happen. Thats no so different from what you do right? you just saying it will NOT happen.
At least i try back up my claims.

It's very common to remake games, if it wasen't worth it($) it woulden't happen.
I can mention a few titles that already been redone, just on the top of my head of course. Banjo Kazooie, Banjo Tooie, Perfect Dark & Serious Sam TFS&TSE. Those games are all older than Halo 2, and yet they where remade. I don't see any reason why microsofts 2 most popular games on the old Xbox woulden't get remade sometime.
Oh, and Monkey Island 1&2 had a remake too.

  • 02.14.2011 9:38 AM PDT


Posted by: Frank_Sknaw

Posted by: JacobGRocks

Posted by: Frank_Sknaw

I'm not sure if I would want a remake of it because I feel like the game would be changed up too much for me to enjoy it. I also feel like it wouldn't be as great as the glory days of Halo 2. When Halo 2 was first released, Xbox Live was still a new experience to many people as H2 was a huge factor in drawing in many members to the service. Custom games ran rampant around this time, strangers were more open to play with others, everyone was very talkative as there was no private chat and everyone who bought xbox live had a free mic, clan matches, discovering glitches for the first time...the list just goes on and on.

Halo 2 brought me very happy memories that I will always cherish. It sounds kind of silly that a videogame would be a such a big part of my life but it was honestly some of the best days I've experienced. Nothing in terms of gaming will ever top Halo for me...it even surpasses the N64 days of playing Goldeneye, Mario Kart, Star Fox, etc.


And then there was always the other side.


Hey I actually enjoyed the mods/glitches. I never used mods but they were fun from time to time, especially in customs. I also remember standby...I remember once that blue screen came up everyone was like "Damn it they're standbying again!". I even miss those times too, I didn't care much for competition in Halo 2 it was all about the fun which it more than provided.


Haha yes, Halo 2 was such a blast, I just popped in my CE this morning and played the first lvl.. I had more fun in it than I did at all during Reach.. and possibly 3.

  • 02.14.2011 10:37 AM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.

Halo CE was much better then 2. So was 3 and reach.

  • 02.14.2011 10:43 AM PDT

LC= Laveranues Coles a former WR for the NY Jets.

If 343 knows best they will remake Halo 2 for xbox 360 as an arcade game or a retail game.

  • 02.14.2011 12:57 PM PDT

Seriously everyone who pines for halo 2 glory days has a serious case of the rose tinted glasses on.

It was good, but not as good as you think you remember it was and its had its time and those days are now long gone, lost to time like tears in the rain.

I have a theory about this, that most of the people complaining and demanding H2 back, are actually demanding a slice of their childhood back, because they were in the early teens when H2 came out like me. And theres not a power on this earth that can fulfil that demand unfortunately, certainly not bungie.

It happened to me for the first time a few days ago, i just got this huge urge to fire up BTB H2 waterworks or coag and invite all my old XBL buddies who are now long gone and play again like old times.

Not possible :(

  • 02.14.2011 12:59 PM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.


Posted by: Fatal Factor
Seriously everyone who pines for halo 2 glory days has a serious case of the rose tinted glasses on.

It was good, but not as good as you think you remember it was and its had its time and those days are now long gone, lost to time like tears in the rain.

I have a theory about this, that most of the people complaining and demanding H2 back, are actually demanding a slice of their childhood back, because they were in the early teens when H2 came out like me. And theres not a power on this earth that can fulfil that demand unfortunately, certainly not bungie.

It happened to me for the first time a few days ago, i just got this huge urge to fire up BTB H2 waterworks or coag and invite all my old XBL buddies who are now long gone and play again like old times.

Not possible :(

Which is pretty much why suddenly Halo 3 is good, and in a few years, people will look back on black ops/reach like they do on H2 here.

Nothing is good as you think it was. I like to forget the past and live in the present.

[Edited on 02.14.2011 1:04 PM PST]

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Posted by: JacobGRocks

Posted by: Fatal Factor
Seriously everyone who pines for halo 2 glory days has a serious case of the rose tinted glasses on.

It was good, but not as good as you think you remember it was and its had its time and those days are now long gone, lost to time like tears in the rain.

I have a theory about this, that most of the people complaining and demanding H2 back, are actually demanding a slice of their childhood back, because they were in the early teens when H2 came out like me. And theres not a power on this earth that can fulfil that demand unfortunately, certainly not bungie.

It happened to me for the first time a few days ago, i just got this huge urge to fire up BTB H2 waterworks or coag and invite all my old XBL buddies who are now long gone and play again like old times.

Not possible :(

Which is pretty much why suddenly Halo 3 is good, and in a few years, people will look back on black ops/reach like they do on H2 here.

Nothing is good as you think it was. I like to forget the past and live in the present.


Yeah i noticed that. Reach came out and suddenly halo 3 is the good old days and the previous 3 years of H3 complaint threads are all fogiven. BRING BACK HALO 3!!!111.

Gives you some perspective on 95% of threads on bnet lol.

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Posted by: Fatal Factor
Seriously everyone who pines for halo 2 glory days has a serious case of the rose tinted glasses on.

It was good, but not as good as you think you remember it was and its had its time and those days are now long gone, lost to time like tears in the rain.

I have a theory about this, that most of the people complaining and demanding H2 back, are actually demanding a slice of their childhood back, because they were in the early teens when H2 came out like me. And theres not a power on this earth that can fulfil that demand unfortunately, certainly not bungie.

It happened to me for the first time a few days ago, i just got this huge urge to fire up BTB H2 waterworks or coag and invite all my old XBL buddies who are now long gone and play again like old times.

Not possible :(

No doubt there is some nostalagy involved, and you sort of right about the childhood thingie. I had lost of great moments with Halo 2 back then, moments i wish i could relive. But i think that happens to all great moments when enough time have passed.

Halo 2 is technical outdated, i can agree with that. But if you compare Halo 2 to reach for example, the pace of the game, features, maps, ranking and all that.
Both games are Halo, but it's different and those differences are what make gamers prefer one game over another.
You may not get the same fun out of a game you played for thousands of hours already, but as a game i think Halo 2 holds up very well.
And as i said before, i would much rather play Halo 2 once in a while than Reach.

Posted by: Fatal Factor
Yeah i noticed that. Reach came out and suddenly halo 3 is the good old days and the previous 3 years of H3 complaint threads are all fogiven. BRING BACK HALO 3!!!111.

Gives you some perspective on 95% of threads on bnet lol.

I can't speak for anyone but myself. But to me, the series peaked with Halo 2, and then went downhill.
Halo 3 framrate in MP was poor, and the maps didn't have the quality of Halo 2's they also did some changes to the melee system that i didn't like. Over all it was of course a very solid game.

Reach had even worse maps, and changed the foumlar way beyond needed. Better framerate, you could argue it should have been 60, but it's still better than Halo 3's. They added reticle bloom and armor abbilities, unneseccary complexity. At least they brought back hitscan.

I wont ever look back at Reach with good moments, because i didn't have any. Campaign was the worst of the series, and the multiplayer was just...

I will remember Halo 3 for it's campaign and coop though, Halo 2 for mostly multiplayer, CE for both, but mostly campaign though. Had some moments with ODST too, the music was great.

[Edited on 02.14.2011 2:51 PM PST]

  • 02.14.2011 2:37 PM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.


Posted by: Fatal Factor

Posted by: JacobGRocks

Posted by: Fatal Factor
Seriously everyone who pines for halo 2 glory days has a serious case of the rose tinted glasses on.

It was good, but not as good as you think you remember it was and its had its time and those days are now long gone, lost to time like tears in the rain.

I have a theory about this, that most of the people complaining and demanding H2 back, are actually demanding a slice of their childhood back, because they were in the early teens when H2 came out like me. And theres not a power on this earth that can fulfil that demand unfortunately, certainly not bungie.

It happened to me for the first time a few days ago, i just got this huge urge to fire up BTB H2 waterworks or coag and invite all my old XBL buddies who are now long gone and play again like old times.

Not possible :(

Which is pretty much why suddenly Halo 3 is good, and in a few years, people will look back on black ops/reach like they do on H2 here.

Nothing is good as you think it was. I like to forget the past and live in the present.


Yeah i noticed that. Reach came out and suddenly halo 3 is the good old days and the previous 3 years of H3 complaint threads are all fogiven. BRING BACK HALO 3!!!111.

Gives you some perspective on 95% of threads on bnet lol.

Which is pretty much why I hate bnet. People want h2 back, yet they forget about all the "H2 SUX" threads. Halo 2 wasn't that great, CE was far better, and then 3 came out, and everyone wanted 2 back. Reach comes out, and they want 3 back. You get the idea. Look at reach, lots of people still play it.

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like gamefaqs top 10 of best things that happened to Halo:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/top10/2196.html

I don't agree with #9,#5 & #4, and haven't put thought into the order. But there is some good stuff in there.

  • 02.15.2011 12:37 AM PDT


Posted by: MetKiddo
like gamefaqs top 10 of best things that happened to Halo:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/top10/2196.html

I don't agree with #9,#5 & #4, and haven't put thought into the order. But there is some good stuff in there.


^^ This
Halo 2 revolutionized FPS Console Gaming, and after H2 it was a disaster. I've been talking to all my friends and stuff that even touched Halo 2 and they still say it was the best.. NOT HALO 3 which everyone is saying "the current trend is the previous one is the best, Reach will be the best in a few years" No. that's dumb. People appreciate the gameplay that flowed, the glitches that were a blast, not all this gimicky nonsense (H3 - Equipment, Reach - AA's/Bloom ) that has been put into the most recent installations.

And after LANing Halo:CE and Halo 2 with my friends yesterday, I realized how much better it is than what we have to deal with now.

[Edited on 02.15.2011 4:52 AM PST]

  • 02.15.2011 4:51 AM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.


Posted by: Chappy1190

^^ This
Halo 2 revolutionized FPS Console Gaming, and after H2 it was a disaster. I've been talking to all my friends and stuff that even touched Halo 2 and they still say it was the best.. NOT HALO 3 which everyone is saying "the current trend is the previous one is the best, Reach will be the best in a few years" No. that's dumb. People appreciate the gameplay that flowed, the glitches that were a blast, not all this gimicky nonsense (H3 - Equipment, Reach - AA's/Bloom ) that has been put into the most recent installations.

And after LANing Halo:CE and Halo 2 with my friends yesterday, I realized how much better it is than what we have to deal with now.

Little known fact: Most of the features that halo 2 introduced existed in obscure console FPSes. Online: Any Xbox FPS that was live enabled. Dual Weilding: Unreal Tournament (DC/PS2/PC). As for #3, well, that helped dumb down fps games, and helped pave the way for Call of Duty, the Mario Kart of FPS games and the most hated game here. Keep in mind, note how MLG doesn't play ARMA II or CS 1.6 or BC2, yet they did play H2 and CoD and Smash Bros, games that DON'T take skill.

MLG is a joke.

Oh, and glitches, well, let's just say glitches are for skilless MLG toolboxes, and even bungie said they were cheating. They removed them in H3/Reach for a reason.

EDIT: Proof KD doesn't matter, to anyone who is going to say "U SUK"

Posted by: Big Evil Spider
K/D is utterly irrelevant. It doesnt tell you anything about how good a player is unless that player only plays Team Slayer, doesnt have people quit his games, for damn sure doesnt play Grifball or Infection, doesnt ever lag and doesnt get betrayed for the sniper rifle.

If the player meets the above criteria, then congrats, you know he might be some use in a game of Slayer. But you know what, he might well be as thick as two short planks, he may never get you a flag capture or bomb arming and he may not support his team in any game, needing to go it alone.

The one thing you can pretty much guarantee from someone with a high K/D is that they will go and hide somewhere if the going gets tough, not wanting to get too many deaths. More likely they will quit out, and you can probably put safe money on them going for a betrayal or other disruption should they not get their hands on a power weapon.



[Edited on 02.15.2011 7:33 AM PST]

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Uh, JacobGRocks,MLG players do play Counter-Strike

The reason they never did it in tournament was because it was outdated.

[Edited on 02.15.2011 10:05 AM PST]

  • 02.15.2011 9:45 AM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.

That's not mlg, just some "pro" making a montage.

  • 02.15.2011 10:07 AM PDT

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