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Subject: Reach DLC idea: the old Sandtrap concept. ***PLEASE EVERYONE READ***

andrew stiles


Posted by: Torch105
I can totally see this happening.

For the sake of the map I would change it so you have the map with in the wall, then you have an area all around the wall. Not just at one small section.

Phase 1. Spartans have to break through the forerunner wall to gain access to the inners of the forerunner fortress.(Assault)(Spartans would have 1 or 2 warthogs off the start, while the elites have 1 or 2 ghosts and some vehicle killing weapon.)

Phase 2. Spartans have to blow a hole in the area outside of the inner fortress(where the flag is on the picture of the whole map.) to get in.(Spartans get Armor or Falcon)

Phase 3. Spartans have to secure the inner fortress by capturing a territory at the top of a forerunner tower. The tower would have one way in from the ground level, but some areas are weak and can be destroyed by a tank shell or a rocket which allows the falcon to fly more guys into the mid/top of the tower. The tower would be a circular tower with tight hallways that keep circling up until they reach the top. (Spartans would get Armor and Falcon, Elites would get 1 or 2 Banshees, 1 or 2 Plasma launchers all of which would spawn on the top of the tower which would make it hard to do an air drop) (Note there would be a good amount of cover at the top of the tower for the elites to use.)


this is interesting... i may consider adding it to the OP if it stays alive....

  • 02.12.2011 1:45 PM PDT

andrew stiles

i have noticed almost all of the votes have been yes.

guys, let your friends who have accounts on this website know about this thread so we can ensure that all of the community gets its input!

  • 02.12.2011 1:48 PM PDT

As long as they don't put lasers in it and ruin it like Sandtrap

  • 02.12.2011 1:48 PM PDT

"Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain."

Yes. Sandtrap was my favorite halo 3 map, and elephants my favorite vehicles.

Imagine, destroyable elephants, charging both up and down the opening stretch, or charging each other in the "Main Bowl" of the map. This one map, I bet, could possibly out-sell the first two map packs bungie made, if marketed right.

But I have one more idea. We have sandtrap with invasion, we have sandtrap with eleohants, and what else could be added? I have one idea: Forge World Palette!

  • 02.12.2011 1:49 PM PDT

"Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain."


Posted by: llamabeans
As long as they don't put lasers in it and ruin it like Sandtrap
Well, remember, they nerfed the splaser to only allow 4 shots. 4 shots simply isn't enough to take and entire team's vehicles.

  • 02.12.2011 1:50 PM PDT

andrew stiles


Posted by: masterchef901
Yes. Sandtrap was my favorite halo 3 map, and elephants my favorite vehicles.

Imagine, destroyable elephants, charging both up and down the opening stretch, or charging each other in the "Main Bowl" of the map. This one map, I bet, could possibly out-sell the first two map packs bungie made, if marketed right.

But I have one more idea. We have sandtrap with invasion, we have sandtrap with eleohants, and what else could be added? I have one idea: Forge World Palette!


YES!!!! This would make a great forgeworld!

  • 02.12.2011 1:50 PM PDT

My friends call me D Bo.

I love this Idea.

  • 02.12.2011 1:51 PM PDT

andrew stiles


Posted by: masterchef901

Posted by: llamabeans
As long as they don't put lasers in it and ruin it like Sandtrap
Well, remember, they nerfed the splaser to only allow 4 shots. 4 shots simply isn't enough to take and entire team's vehicles.

its also extremely hard to aim at foot-soldiers...

even some vehicles are hard to hit... i feel like the laser would be a good weapon for the map, considering which team would have it...

  • 02.12.2011 1:52 PM PDT

andrew stiles


Posted by: P0werSQUIRRELY
I love this Idea.


many people do. thank you very much for your input as a reply, and thanks to everyone who has done this so far as well!

  • 02.12.2011 1:53 PM PDT

andrew stiles

guys, there is only so much i can do to keep this thread alive without breaking rules. if you all truly do like it, it would be very much appreciated if you assisted me in keeping this a front-page forum thread.
thank you to everyone who has done this so far. your conversations are both helpful to this thread as well as bungie when they see it.

  • 02.12.2011 1:57 PM PDT

andrew stiles

c'mon this thread is on the verge of catching-flame, please keep it going!

  • 02.12.2011 1:59 PM PDT


Posted by: Lord Slade
Sandtrap without Choppers is not Sandtrap.


ture then bungie should bring the choppers back if they can also i reckon we need more vehicles in reach all we have is revenant, mongoose, warthog,>gass,> and rockethog, banshee, falcon, ghost, scorpion,

we need the chopper, prowler,and elephant back.

  • 02.12.2011 2:02 PM PDT

andrew stiles


Posted by: ZXX PH03N1X XXZ

Posted by: Lord Slade
Sandtrap without Choppers is not Sandtrap.


ture then bungie should bring the choppers back if they can also i reckon we need more vehicles in reach all we have is revenant, mongoose, warthog,>gass,> and rockethog, banshee, falcon, ghost, scorpion,

we need the chopper, prowler,and elephant back.


though i dont think it is possible to bring new vehicles into the game, new skins such as the ones they put on the vehicles in the legendary map pack in halo 3 would be cool.

possibly the scorpion could get a desert camo?

  • 02.12.2011 2:06 PM PDT

andrew stiles

if anyone who has or will vote no, please, you are welcome to post your thoughts as well. i am accepting of anything, and even though i want this idea myself, i would like for anyone who has any good reasons why they dont want it to share their input just as much as the people who have given positive input.

  • 02.12.2011 2:09 PM PDT

"Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain."


Posted by: blacbastud

Posted by: ZXX PH03N1X XXZ

Posted by: Lord Slade
Sandtrap without Choppers is not Sandtrap.


ture then bungie should bring the choppers back if they can also i reckon we need more vehicles in reach all we have is revenant, mongoose, warthog,>gass,> and rockethog, banshee, falcon, ghost, scorpion,

we need the chopper, prowler,and elephant back.


though i dont think it is possible to bring new vehicles into the game, new skins such as the ones they put on the vehicles in the legendary map pack in halo 3 would be cool.

possibly the scorpion could get a desert camo?
Actually, Bungie has confirmed they can add new vehicles, but only on new maps. So, we could get a Sandtrap with elephants, choppers, and prowlers, but they simply said they can't change any existing maps to fit them. So yes, we can have those vehicles on Sandtrap, if they remake it.

And BTW, OP, if you take a minute to punctuate the OP, I'd be a little more willing to post here.

  • 02.12.2011 2:12 PM PDT

andrew stiles

i just decided to read the update one more time in order to make sure that this is a good invasion map...

wow, the first picture you find pretty much shows invasion gameplay...
it looks kind of simular to spire only on a much larger scale and much more suiting for land vehicles...

  • 02.12.2011 2:13 PM PDT

andrew stiles


Posted by: masterchef901

Posted by: blacbastud

Posted by: ZXX PH03N1X XXZ

Posted by: Lord Slade
Sandtrap without Choppers is not Sandtrap.


ture then bungie should bring the choppers back if they can also i reckon we need more vehicles in reach all we have is revenant, mongoose, warthog,>gass,> and rockethog, banshee, falcon, ghost, scorpion,

we need the chopper, prowler,and elephant back.


though i dont think it is possible to bring new vehicles into the game, new skins such as the ones they put on the vehicles in the legendary map pack in halo 3 would be cool.

possibly the scorpion could get a desert camo?
Actually, Bungie has confirmed they can add new vehicles, but only on new maps. So, we could get a Sandtrap with elephants, choppers, and prowlers, but they simply said they can't change any existing maps to fit them. So yes, we can have those vehicles on Sandtrap, if they remake it.

And BTW, OP, if you take a minute to punctuate the OP, I'd be a little more willing to post here.


okay, ill get right on that actually. i just found out that i have more time so can edit this thread right now. thanks!

  • 02.12.2011 2:14 PM PDT

andrew stiles


Posted by: blacbastud

Posted by: masterchef901

Posted by: blacbastud

Posted by: ZXX PH03N1X XXZ

Posted by: Lord Slade
Sandtrap without Choppers is not Sandtrap.


ture then bungie should bring the choppers back if they can also i reckon we need more vehicles in reach all we have is revenant, mongoose, warthog,>gass,> and rockethog, banshee, falcon, ghost, scorpion,

we need the chopper, prowler,and elephant back.


though i dont think it is possible to bring new vehicles into the game, new skins such as the ones they put on the vehicles in the legendary map pack in halo 3 would be cool.

possibly the scorpion could get a desert camo?
Actually, Bungie has confirmed they can add new vehicles, but only on new maps. So, we could get a Sandtrap with elephants, choppers, and prowlers, but they simply said they can't change any existing maps to fit them. So yes, we can have those vehicles on Sandtrap, if they remake it.

And BTW, OP, if you take a minute to punctuate the OP, I'd be a little more willing to post here.


okay, ill get right on that actually. i just found out that i have more time so can edit this thread right now. thanks!

there we go

  • 02.12.2011 2:21 PM PDT

andrew stiles

c'mon guys we are literally so close to getting flames on this thread please keep posting and voting!

  • 02.12.2011 2:23 PM PDT

andrew stiles


Posted by: comander Seth
This is an idea that i completely support, i loved that map and a better version would only be better.

But i will miss the choppers and elephants. *sigh*

im not sure elephants would work on an invasion map...

  • 02.12.2011 2:27 PM PDT

When I first found out how Invasion would work, I remembered that article and thought how good that version of Sandtrap would be for it.

[Edited on 02.12.2011 2:39 PM PST]

  • 02.12.2011 2:33 PM PDT

andrew stiles


Posted by: antony X1000
When I first found out how Invasion would work, I remembered that article and though how good that version of Sandtrap would be for it.

yeah, thats why i decided to post this. glad you like the idea.

  • 02.12.2011 2:38 PM PDT


Posted by: blacbastud

Posted by: antony X1000
When I first found out how Invasion would work, I remembered that article and though how good that version of Sandtrap would be for it.

yeah, thats why i decided to post this. glad you like the idea.

I was going to post a thread about this a few months ago, but I could never find that article. I eventually forgot, but I'm glad someone had the same idea.

  • 02.12.2011 2:41 PM PDT

andrew stiles


Posted by: antony X1000

Posted by: blacbastud

Posted by: antony X1000
When I first found out how Invasion would work, I remembered that article and though how good that version of Sandtrap would be for it.

yeah, thats why i decided to post this. glad you like the idea.

I was going to post a thread about this a few months ago, but I could never find that article. I eventually forgot, but I'm glad someone had the same idea.


yeah it took me sooo long to find it i had to strain googles search engine quit a bit..

  • 02.12.2011 2:45 PM PDT

andrew stiles

the votes just show that this thread should stay alive... please, keep it up

  • 02.12.2011 2:56 PM PDT