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Subject: I will explain the errors in the halo canon.

If I cannot explain 3, then I lose. Throw them at me. Any plot hole from any media(canon, that is) will do.

  • 02.12.2011 8:09 PM PDT
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Andy

The dates of the Fall of Reach in relation to Halo: Reach.

  • 02.12.2011 8:13 PM PDT

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In the book, The Fall of Reach, Reach is first attacked by the Covenant on August 30th. However in Halo: Reach, we clearly see the major Covenant invasion fleet arrive at Reach and the end of the mission Long Night of Solace, which was on August 14th. So what's the deal?

  • 02.12.2011 8:14 PM PDT

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In TFoR the Pillar of Autumn is in space.

In Halo: Reach it is on the ground.

  • 02.12.2011 8:14 PM PDT

Why was it that Reach was attacked in July 24th, when in ALL the books, it was said to be attacked on the 30th of August?

Why were there Spartan III's with Shields? None had any.

How are Noble team even alive? Everyone from Alpha and Beta company DIED, NONE survived, they shouldn't exist.

How is the PoA on the ground? They weren't made to land!


Let's see you're skills with Halo Wiki and look up these answers.

[Edited on 02.12.2011 8:15 PM PST]

  • 02.12.2011 8:14 PM PDT

Go wild.

  • 02.12.2011 8:14 PM PDT

Maybe the july 24th date was just a few covert op battles by secret groups, and the actual date as the public knows it is the august 30th date? Does that make sense to you? Or would you have me lose 1 point? Your choice.
Posted by: DynamicVamp
The dates of the Fall of Reach in relation to Halo: Reach.

  • 02.12.2011 8:16 PM PDT

1.Already given a possible, but unlikely explanation in a previous post.

2. they were wearing spartan 2 armor.

3. the members of noble team were hand picked and assigned to other units before the others died.

4. They HAD to land, they took some risks.
Posted by: mojeda101
Why was it that Reach was attacked in July 24th, when in ALL the books, it was said to be attacked on the 30th of August?

Why were there Spartan III's with Shields? None had any.

How are Noble team even alive? Everyone from Alpha and Beta company DIED, NONE survived, they shouldn't exist.

How is the PoA on the ground? They weren't made to land!


Let's see you're skills with Halo Wiki and look up these answers.

  • 02.12.2011 8:27 PM PDT

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It seems that you skipped a couple...

  • 02.12.2011 8:31 PM PDT

how does halsey not know about the spartan III's in first strike but see them in halo reach?

  • 02.12.2011 8:34 PM PDT

Like five of them were the same thing, asking why the dates differ. I do not see ANY I didnt answer. But ill read it again, just to make sure.
Posted by: CTN 0452 9
It seems that you skipped a couple...

  • 02.12.2011 8:35 PM PDT

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Posted by: mr _super sauce
Maybe the july 24th date was just a few covert op battles by secret groups, and the actual date as the public knows it is the august 30th date? Does that make sense to you? Or would you have me lose 1 point? Your choice.
So you're telling me that what the Orbital Defense monitor called "The whole damn Covenant fleet" was hidden from the public from August 14th (Long Night of Solace) and August 30th? How do you keep a city being destroyed and a planet under siege from a MASSIVE fleet that long?

  • 02.12.2011 8:37 PM PDT


Posted by: rickety cricket
how does halsey not know about the spartan III's in first strike but see them in halo reach?


This is so minor, how did anybody catch this? Ill use my last resort answer for this one: Bungies new games override existing canon. Therefore the little snippet of words were it says halsey doesn't know about spartan 3s is no longer canon. But thats not a real answer, even though it IS true, so 2 strikes for me.

  • 02.12.2011 8:37 PM PDT


Posted by: MegaMuffin16
Posted by: mr _super sauce
Maybe the july 24th date was just a few covert op battles by secret groups, and the actual date as the public knows it is the august 30th date? Does that make sense to you? Or would you have me lose 1 point? Your choice.
So you're telling me that what the Orbital Defense monitor called "The whole damn Covenant fleet" was hidden from the public from August 14th (Long Night of Solace) and August 30th? How do you keep a city being destroyed and a planet under siege from a MASSIVE fleet that long?


I never said it was a GOOD explanation. and I did decide to take a point from myself. im down to 1 more. but i still think its possible because the citizens from reach die, so they only had to hide it from people who didnt witness it, which is alot easier. If they didnt see it, they wouldnt know about it in the first place, right? but w/e

  • 02.12.2011 8:39 PM PDT

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Posted by: mr _super sauce
Like five of them were the same thing, asking why the dates differ. I do not see ANY I didnt answer. But ill read it again, just to make sure.
Posted by: CTN 0452 9
It seems that you skipped a couple...

You have not explained why the POA was on Reach after the book pretty much said that it never landed. Covenant comes, destroy prowler and help in the space fight, jump to Halo.

  • 02.12.2011 8:40 PM PDT

Posted by: mr _super sauce

Posted by: rickety cricket
how does halsey not know about the spartan III's in first strike but see them in halo reach?


This is so minor, how did anybody catch this? Ill use my last resort answer for this one: Bungies new games override existing canon. Therefore the little snippet of words were it says halsey doesn't know about spartan 3s is no longer canon. But thats not a real answer, even though it IS true, so 2 strikes for me.


I know it's minor... but it really seems to break the whole idea of canon to me. I really wish bungie would have not messed with this. Congrats to you for knowing so much about the story.

  • 02.12.2011 8:41 PM PDT


Posted by: CTN 0452 9
Posted by: mr _super sauce
Like five of them were the same thing, asking why the dates differ. I do not see ANY I didnt answer. But ill read it again, just to make sure.
Posted by: CTN 0452 9
It seems that you skipped a couple...

You have not explained why the POA was on Reach after the book pretty much said that it never landed. Covenant comes, destroy prowler and help in the space fight, jump to Halo.


Yes I did. I said they HAD to land to get the cortana fragment, and immediately after they fled.

  • 02.12.2011 8:42 PM PDT

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Posted by: mr _super sauce
I never said it was a GOOD explanation. and I did decide to take a point from myself. im down to 1 more. but i still think its possible because the citizens from reach die, so they only had to hide it from people who didnt witness it, which is alot easier. If they didnt see it, they wouldnt know about it in the first place, right? but w/e
It's just not logical. People could see the orbital platforms from the surface, why couldn't they see Covenant ships, 27 kilometers long, beneath the grid? Eyesight tells us that something closer to the surface would be easier to see. So, no one noticed the 300 Covenant ships flying around Reach until August 30, over a week and a half later?

  • 02.12.2011 8:43 PM PDT
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hello i am nobel six lololololololol

"The enemy came. He was beaten. I am tired. Goodnight."

"I think Reach is a pretty cool guy. eh drives froklifts and doesn't afraid of anything."

What happened to all of the Assault Rifles and silver pistols after Halo 1, and where did they all come from during Halo 3?

  • 02.12.2011 8:43 PM PDT

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Posted by: mr _super sauce
Yes I did. I said they HAD to land to get the cortana fragment, and immediately after they fled.
You don't understand. The Pillar of Autumn literally could not go into atmosphere, because the pressure would crush the ship like tin foil. Why do you think it was messed up in The Maw?

  • 02.12.2011 8:44 PM PDT


Posted by: MegaMuffin16
Posted by: mr _super sauce
I never said it was a GOOD explanation. and I did decide to take a point from myself. im down to 1 more. but i still think its possible because the citizens from reach die, so they only had to hide it from people who didnt witness it, which is alot easier. If they didnt see it, they wouldnt know about it in the first place, right? but w/e
It's just not logical. People could see the orbital platforms from the surface, why couldn't they see Covenant ships, 27 kilometers long, beneath the grid? Eyesight tells us that something closer to the surface would be easier to see. So, no one noticed the 300 Covenant ships flying around Reach until August 30, over a
week and a half later?


The people who saw it all perished on reach. Maybe a few trade companies learned about it from thier trade ships, but didnt release the information. The UNSC were hoping they could win, but after they realized what was going to happen, they gave up and let the media free. Again, though, this is just a bad thoery I just made up, although I am going to defend it.

  • 02.12.2011 8:46 PM PDT


Posted by: mojeda101
Why was it that Reach was attacked in July 24th, when in ALL the books, it was said to be attacked on the 30th of August?

Why were there Spartan III's with Shields? None had any.

How are Noble team even alive? Everyone from Alpha and Beta company DIED, NONE survived, they shouldn't exist.

How is the PoA on the ground? They weren't made to land!


Let's see you're skills with Halo Wiki and look up these answers.


Reach wasn't attacked July 24th. It was a scouting force.

Spartan III's with SPI didn't have shields. The shields was with armor.

Noble Team didn't go to the mission where the bulk of people died.

  • 02.12.2011 8:49 PM PDT


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Posted by: mojeda101
Why was it that Reach was attacked in July 24th, when in ALL the books, it was said to be attacked on the 30th of August?

Why were there Spartan III's with Shields? None had any.

How are Noble team even alive? Everyone from Alpha and Beta company DIED, NONE survived, they shouldn't exist.

How is the PoA on the ground? They weren't made to land!


Let's see you're skills with Halo Wiki and look up these answers.


Reach wasn't attacked July 24th. It was a scouting force.

Spartan III's with SPI didn't have shields. The shields was with armor.

Noble Team didn't go to the mission where the bulk of people died.


So what I said?

  • 02.12.2011 8:50 PM PDT

Well its possible. It happened, didn't it?
Posted by: MegaMuffin16
Posted by: mr _super sauce
Yes I did. I said they HAD to land to get the cortana fragment, and immediately after they fled.
You don't understand. The Pillar of Autumn literally could not go into atmosphere, because the pressure would crush the ship like tin foil. Why do you think it was messed up in The Maw?

  • 02.12.2011 8:51 PM PDT

Have you seen my mind anywhere? I seem to have lost it...

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Posted by: mr _super sauce
Well its possible. It happened, didn't it?
Posted by: MegaMuffin16
Posted by: mr _super sauce
Yes I did. I said they HAD to land to get the cortana fragment, and immediately after they fled.
You don't understand. The Pillar of Autumn literally could not go into atmosphere, because the pressure would crush the ship like tin foil. Why do you think it was messed up in The Maw?

Saying that it's possible because it happened is similar to saying retcon, which is something you lost a point for last time, so... I think that's strike 3!

  • 02.12.2011 8:53 PM PDT

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