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Subject: New helmet spotted in Defiant Map pack [1 Year later]

Now that the Defiant Map pack is officially public, I found some pics on the interwebs that shows a new helmet.

Videos below,
Frank O'Connor stuttering when asked about new gear (Armor) see 4:10

Frank O'Connor talking to GameTrailers
"There's a couple of interesting easter eggs in there"

"We do have achievements as we typically do with DLC, and there may be some other things that you will err... find out over the months... but that's all on goona say on that at this point" [smiles]

"We are definalty supporting Halo: Reach for the rest of 2011 and beyond, so this is not the last content you will see for Halo: Reach"


Video here, time of interest is from 2:01


Pics below,
A big large one for the non believers, Oh Yeah!
Now with 5 players in FireFight
Pic 1
Pic 2
Pic 3
Pic 4
Pic 5

Here is a pic of all current available armor,

Not a real box-shot just me being creative

Comments from key people,
bs angel (343 Industries)

What do you think, is this a new helmet?

Some key points posted over the following pages

I want to clear up a few terms here. I have read every page of this thread the last few days, not a post has gone unchecked. Somethings I'm about to go over ARE in fact restatements of things others have said, but none the less need to be stated again.

The first thing every intelligent person in this thread can agree on is this: The helmet and chest piece we see in these pictures have never been seen before. Not in Reach, Halo 3, and as far as I can tell, not in any Bungie title, unlike some other armor (security).

The second thing we can agree on is that the ONLY spartan to have armor other then default is the fancy British one with this monocle and necklace. This points out one very clear thing for me: they did that on purpose so people could find it, and create 2k+ post threads. That's a free ad right there, better then something you'll see on the sidebar of Facebook. It's the same thing that Bungie did with they're ODST interview videos. One person finds this site, another person finds the code, and now 10k posts later, people are more excited for the game. That's all we're seeing, just in a lower scale.

But now the question begs, where did this armor come from? Some people seem to think that it's and old build of the game, and the armor is cut. First off that's near impossible. Why make a map pack for a finished game, but base it off old code? For the map pack would not work on the current build of the game. Secondly, the dev (Certain Affinity) would not even have access to any other build. Thirdly, the building of the map pack began after release, unlike Noble. So this cannot be the answer.

So that leaves the possibility of it being hidden on the disk, or being downloaded. Before I get into this, let me say I did not code Reach in any way shape or form, so I do not know the capabilities of the engine fully. What I DO understand is general game design, and how to find things in the "code", which is really just a file directory.

In my opinion, I think the new armor is going to be in a download. And that is because I cannot find it on the disk. Now I'm sure people that disagree with me are getting ready to pull out the old "Disk Locked", or "Otto Said balh blah". Here is my rebuttal. It is called "Data Mining".

The difference between modding and data mining is that modders just set their credits to 9999999999 and boot up the game. Data mining is the act of looking the games code for things not easily seen on-game.

I did not mod my x-box to unlock everything like you may think. Oh no. I'm using a modded version of a program called "MyWarcraftStudio". This allows anyone to enter the file system of the game "World of Warcraft", and then fiddle with them as such. I used to make mods for the game, oh, 3 years ago I think, towards the end of BC. This is besides the point.

Using the program, I inserted a Reach disk, and was able to begin to browse the folders. I found folders for every piece of armor, the corresponding attachments, and armor effects. Including UA chest, Officer, Flames, and Bungie Blue Flames. I did not find anything that I could not identify. While it is not impossible I my have missed anything that is still hidden on this disk, however if I did, there is not much more to come. This leads me to why I believe the armor will be downloaded: simple fan cry out.

We begged all halo 3 long for Blood Gulch. We got it. We begged since Halo CE for pelicans. We got it, even if it is hidden. We cried to nerf the BR, and yes, we got it. And one of our biggest pleas was for new armor. Why oh why oh why would they not incorporate this into a game that they basically re-built from the ground up? Especially when the focus on a vast armory for the players is one of the main focus points of the game?

Now I'm sure a bunch of you that pulled out your other arguments are saying right now that new armor would only be used in the new maps. To think that this could not be fixed with a simple title update would be so naive that it may warrant and IQ test.

So ion short, due to me not finding it while physically scrolling through code, the large outcry for it, the simplicity and likelihood of an updated armory system, and the shear near impossibility of a new map being build off an old system, I must come to the conclusion that the most likely outcome is that the code for the new armor's visuals will be beamed to my Xbox when the pack comes out, and the code for wearing it will be beamed when I buy the maps.

[Edited on 02.15.2012 6:13 AM PST]

  • 02.14.2011 12:11 PM PDT

lol this thread is still alive -blam!- lol

[Edited on 03.07.2012 6:52 PM PST]

  • 02.14.2011 12:12 PM PDT
Subject: New helmet spotted in Defiant Map pack

Posted by: CultMiester4000
I'm not really an Apple person (Bananas forever) but damn, that's kinda sad.

Looks like an illegitimate child between EOD & GUNGNIR

  • 02.14.2011 12:12 PM PDT

Could we be getting more armor for the new map pack?

[Edited on 02.14.2011 12:14 PM PST]

  • 02.14.2011 12:13 PM PDT

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Posted by: ParagonRenegade
Looks like an illegitimate child between EOD & GUNGNIR

Witch you can buy for 400,000 cR when you reach the rank of Mythic.

  • 02.14.2011 12:14 PM PDT

from what i have been told and have read, they can not add new armors, due to the way it was coded?

  • 02.14.2011 12:14 PM PDT

I would love that so much, just to prove all the people who said it impossible wrong |:)

  • 02.14.2011 12:15 PM PDT

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wow that's weird. i thought it was impossible to add armors.

  • 02.14.2011 12:16 PM PDT

"Were it so easy."

Something else I noticed: On the enlarged 1st image, the "new" helmet's color is darker than the rest of the red Spartan.

OT: I think that it is impossible to add new armor to Reach, but it is possible to UNLOCK armor to use. So it is possible to release armor along with the Map Pack by Unlocking the armor.

[Edited on 02.14.2011 12:21 PM PST]

  • 02.14.2011 12:16 PM PDT

Nothing i've seen before. New reconz perhaps?

  • 02.14.2011 12:16 PM PDT

wow, nice catch OP.

wonder what other secrets are in the trailers...rofl

  • 02.14.2011 12:17 PM PDT

Posted by: yeskezspanem

Posted by: ParagonRenegade
Looks like an illegitimate child between EOD & GUNGNIR

Witch you can buy for 400,000 cR when you reach the rank of Mythic.


You mean this?
It's not the same

  • 02.14.2011 12:17 PM PDT

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Maybe there were already other helmets and armor perms created that Bungie simply hasn't released to the public yet? That does look like something new though.

  • 02.14.2011 12:17 PM PDT

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It looks like EOD.

  • 02.14.2011 12:18 PM PDT

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want do look more like?

Posted by: K Sauls cheaa
from what i have been told and have read, they can not add new armors, due to the way it was coded?

that was in halo 3 Im not sure how it is in reach

  • 02.14.2011 12:18 PM PDT

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Posted by: Mr Krull
Posted by: K Sauls cheaa
from what i have been told and have read, they can not add new armors, due to the way it was coded?

that was in halo 3 Im not sure how it is in reach

Evil Otto said it was still the same, but he could have been wrong.

  • 02.14.2011 12:18 PM PDT

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Posted by: Appocalypse 9999
Maybe there were already other helmets and armor perms created that Bungie simply hasn't released to the public yet? That does look like something new though.
The modding community would've ripped the disc to shreds and uploaded images online. If I had to guess, it's just a development build, where the adding things are a bit less troublesome.

  • 02.14.2011 12:19 PM PDT

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It's likely both gungir and EOD, there are various glitches that can spawn odd armor combinations.

Though none that I know of where you are still controling your charecter...

  • 02.14.2011 12:20 PM PDT

Looks like EOD with a piece looping around from the left and placing a round screen over the right eye, looks awesome :) hope there is new armor, even if its only attachments as long as we dont have to pay for it in game after we buy the Defiant

Also look at the collar

[Edited on 02.14.2011 12:22 PM PST]

  • 02.14.2011 12:21 PM PDT
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Posted by: Mr Krull
Posted by: K Sauls cheaa
from what i have been told and have read, they can not add new armors, due to the way it was coded?

that was in halo 3 Im not sure how it is in reach

Evil Otto said it was still the same, but he could have been wrong.


He also said no Campaign/Firefight...

  • 02.14.2011 12:21 PM PDT
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Whoa, what're you doing here?

Whoa... Nice find OP. It looks like the Spartan is wearing a new chest piece too. Look at his collar.

This is the new Rogue, I'm calling it.

[Edited on 02.17.2011 1:52 PM PST]

  • 02.14.2011 12:21 PM PDT

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This looks like the operator base but the character looks like hes just looking really far down so you are seeing the top of his head.

http://www.haloreachplanet.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/8-2 3-2010-4-56-45-PM.jpg

The front piece is the same.

  • 02.14.2011 12:22 PM PDT

Remember when a BWU showed how to install Halo Reach......?

well they showed 59/59 achievements, maybe there are some Vidmasters on the way to unlock new armor?

  • 02.14.2011 12:22 PM PDT

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Posted by: iTz IGr33NI
Whoa... Nice find OP. It looks like the Spartan is wearing a new chest piece too. Look at his collar.

quoted for emphasis

  • 02.14.2011 12:23 PM PDT