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Subject: New helmet spotted in Defiant Map pack

Posted by: mistershag
I just can't believe nobody official has spoken of this yet. It seems like Bungie, 343, or Certain Affinity would have spoken up by now... or at least have someone with solid evidence either way.

I'm of the mind that something is up, and we're not getting new armor. I feel like it would have been advertised or addressed if we were getting new armor... but I honestly have no clue or evidence to support my theory. At least if we don't get armor I can say I told you so, and if we do get new armor I can dance alongside everyone else.


I have to agree. I would think they would want everyone to know that not only are you getting new maps, but you are getting new armor as well.

I can bet some people would buy the DLC just for the new armor.

  • 02.21.2011 2:06 PM PDT
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Posted by: Cwagmire
Posted by: mistershag
I just can't believe nobody official has spoken of this yet. It seems like Bungie, 343, or Certain Affinity would have spoken up by now... or at least have someone with solid evidence either way.

I'm of the mind that something is up, and we're not getting new armor. I feel like it would have been advertised or addressed if we were getting new armor... but I honestly have no clue or evidence to support my theory. At least if we don't get armor I can say I told you so, and if we do get new armor I can dance alongside everyone else.


I have to agree. I would think they would want everyone to know that not only are you getting new maps, but you are getting new armor as well.

I can bet some people would buy the DLC just for the new armor.
that's becasue there is no new armor in the defiant map pack.

  • 02.21.2011 2:07 PM PDT
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Posted by: Cwagmire
Posted by: mistershag
I just can't believe nobody official has spoken of this yet. It seems like Bungie, 343, or Certain Affinity would have spoken up by now... or at least have someone with solid evidence either way.

I'm of the mind that something is up, and we're not getting new armor. I feel like it would have been advertised or addressed if we were getting new armor... but I honestly have no clue or evidence to support my theory. At least if we don't get armor I can say I told you so, and if we do get new armor I can dance alongside everyone else.


I have to agree. I would think they would want everyone to know that not only are you getting new maps, but you are getting new armor as well.

I can bet some people would buy the DLC just for the new armor.
that's becasue there is no new armor in the defiant map pack.


You would think that if they were adding more armor along with the new map pack (included with it, but not in the maps), then they'd be advertising as a means to sell the map pack.

Unless of course the two are independant and mutually exclusive. Meaning that you don't have to buy the maps to get the armor. If the armor is Disk Lock Content, maybe buying the maps unlocks them? Or maybe the armor is something still in development? Or maybe it was an armor that was concepted, but cut from the game... who knows? I guess we'll just have to wait until March.

It just seems odd that if it does exist, and is meant for us, that it would be advertised as a means to try and gain more players.

  • 02.21.2011 2:15 PM PDT

Who give beat down? We give beat down!

Looks neat, maybe getting the achievements will unlock it via waypoint. Either way, where did the image even come from?

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Posted by: xCrimsonLegendx
Looks neat, maybe getting the achievements will unlock it via waypoint. Either way, where did the image even come from?
Defiant Map Pack trailer

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Posted by: Coux73
It just seems odd that if it does exist, and is meant for us, that it would be advertised as a means to try and gain more players.
thank you

  • 02.21.2011 2:33 PM PDT

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Posted by: pulvis ira
Fellas, this link popped up in a different thread. It's a pre-release Bungie Forge ViDoc. What helmet is that at 5:40? At first I saw the circular earmuffs of the alleged new helmet, but this proved false upon closer inspection. So, not the alleged new helmet. Now I'm wondering... what helmet is that? The angle is slightly elevated and the coming from behind at 4 o'clock, so you never see it face on. It's like doing one of those jigsaw puzzles where the reverse side of a piece has misleading images on it.


One word: HAZOP.


I see what you mean, it appears to have that Hazop jaw attachment. But to my knowledge Hazop doesn't have that black bar extending from the back of the head across the sideburns.. i'm not familiar with any helmet showing that feature.

  • 02.21.2011 2:45 PM PDT

Or just a helmet you as well as many members of the community haven't unlocked yet?

  • 02.21.2011 2:46 PM PDT

Been a Bungie fan since the days of Myth TFL.

a possibility but can you find a comparable helmet on this list? Hazop is closest but I don't see a close enough relation

  • 02.21.2011 3:28 PM PDT


Posted by: xCrimsonLegendx
Looks neat, maybe getting the achievements will unlock it via waypoint. Either way, where did the image even come from?

Posted by: tubb311
Defiant Map Pack trailer



Nope, not from the trailer but from Major Nelson's flickr page

[Edited on 02.21.2011 4:11 PM PST]

  • 02.21.2011 4:07 PM PDT

There was a sig here
It's gone now...

I don't care how much information goes against the possibility of new armor, remember that whole thing with Halo 3? "Believe"

[Edited on 02.21.2011 4:31 PM PST]

  • 02.21.2011 4:24 PM PDT

Been a Bungie fan since the days of Myth TFL.

Okay I've stopped being lazy and uploaded a screen grab of the helmet I noticed in the Forgeworld vidoc. You can find it here.

Note the black band that runs from behind the ear toward the eyes.

Compare it to all known helmets on this list?

I still don't believe it's Hazop but am willing to be swayed with a decent argument. I also don't know if it's this alleged FAFNIR, the angle doesn't make anything clear.

[Edited on 02.21.2011 4:36 PM PST]

  • 02.21.2011 4:32 PM PDT

Ok, can any of you non believers explain to me why in two officially released screenshots there is not just a new helmet but also a new chest piece?

It must be new armor as why would it appear in the new map pack screenshots?

Yes Bungie has said it would be very difficult to add new armor to Halo: Reach, but don't forget two very important factors.

1. Bungie does not always give us the whole truth, i.e. They said there would never be any extra FireFight DLC.

2. The Defiant Map Pack is not Bungies work, maybe the new guys on the block have tweeked the game engine to allow new armor?

  • 02.21.2011 4:42 PM PDT

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Sweet we do need some more armor real bad

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Posted by: Coux73
It just seems odd that if it does exist, and is meant for us, that it would be advertised as a means to try and gain more players.
thank you


Bungie isn't always like "HEY HERE IT IS, COME GET IT!", they like to put in a hint to something new, then surprise their fans later, plus word of mouth is the best advertisement, when new armor comes, Reach fans will tell their friends about it, friends become intrigued, friends start playing again.

[Edited on 02.21.2011 4:43 PM PST]

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Posted by: Coux73
It just seems odd that if it does exist, and is meant for us, that it would be advertised as a means to try and gain more players.
thank you


Bungie isn't always like "HEY HERE IT IS, COME GET IT!", they like to put in a hint to something new, then surprise their fans later, plus word of mouth is the best advertisement, when new armor comes, Reach fans will tell their friends about it, friends become intrigued, friends start playing again.


But they were completely advertising the crap out of everything when the game dropped. There were commercials everywhere. Even for the pre-order armors and effects. There was no escaping it. Same for the Noble map pack. Why change tactics on new armor? Seems like that would be a huge selling point. Why not advertise something that would completely sell a game or map pack?

It just doesn't make sense after the hype we saw for Reach, the pre-order bonuses, Legendary edition bonuses, and the Noble Map pack.

[Edited on 02.21.2011 4:57 PM PST]

  • 02.21.2011 4:46 PM PDT


Posted by: pulvis ira
Okay I've stopped being lazy and uploaded a screen grab of the helmet I noticed in the Forgeworld vidoc. You can find it here.

Note the black band that runs from behind the ear toward the eyes.

Compare it to all known helmets on this list?

I still don't believe it's Hazop but am willing to be swayed with a decent argument. I also don't know if it's this alleged FAFNIR, the angle doesn't make anything clear.


It's either Hazop CBRN/ HUL or ODST CBRN/HUL

  • 02.21.2011 4:55 PM PDT

I'm not sure it's the ODST helm. I've done a study of that for prop-making, and it's most definitely not that. HAZOP, on the other hand, perhaps.

  • 02.21.2011 5:02 PM PDT

Been a Bungie fan since the days of Myth TFL.

Aha lookit those things. I don't own any so I wasn't as familiar with that piece of bling. Thanks!

  • 02.21.2011 5:02 PM PDT

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Not a real box-shot just me being creative
OMG nice

What do you think, is this a new helmet?

  • 02.21.2011 5:06 PM PDT

Posted by: pulvis ira
Okay I've stopped being lazy and uploaded a screen grab of the helmet I noticed in the Forgeworld vidoc. You can find it here.

Note the black band that runs from behind the ear toward the eyes.

Compare it to all known helmets on this list?

I still don't believe it's Hazop but am willing to be swayed with a decent argument. I also don't know if it's this alleged FAFNIR, the angle doesn't make anything clear.

It's HAZOP with the CBRN/HUL attachment. Seriously. Just go to the Armory and select it, turn your guy around, and look at it. It is 100% obvious that it's HAZOP.

  • 02.21.2011 5:19 PM PDT

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Posted by: Desicator616
dosent look like any previous armor I have seen:

EOD
http://www.haloreachplanet.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/8-2 3-2010-4-56-13-PM.jpg

Operator Camera:
http://www.haloreachplanet.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/8-2 3-2010-4-56-45-PM.jpg

New Helmet:http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz289/xxoACEoxx/Condemned_ Action-2_enlarged.jpg

Also look at the collar


For those of you who think it's EOD, look at the top portion of the helmet, the very top, not the forehead. It's different. Not the same.

  • 02.21.2011 5:25 PM PDT

Wow! I hope that's a new helmet! It looks even more BA than the GUNGNIR helmet, which i'm using now. If that is a new helmet, i'm definately getting it, thanks for showing this to me. I have a feeling that it's possible to add a helmet, like this would be part of buying the defiant map pack. but again, thanks!

  • 02.21.2011 5:41 PM PDT

Im real happy for you and Im gonna let you finish...but the BR took less skill to use than a DMR

you dolts DO realize that the armory is part of UI.MAP

and since a .MAP file cant have things added to it there will be no new armor

put 2 and 2 together children, remember that thread shock120 lovingly made and those experienced halo modders helped with? yeah as you might wanna go look up the armory is a .map file and ass such no new armors can be added without a 4gig+patch

dont go "but these are new masp so the armor will only exist on the new maps"..this is where i'll slap you for your stupidity..the UI.map file is whats incharge of the ARMORY not the MP map...

TL;DR

no new armor because the UI.map file handles the actual armory screen not the MP maps

  • 02.21.2011 5:50 PM PDT

Apart from the time Evil Otto asked that his PM replies to be kept as PMs, can anybody remember a single Bungie member replying to any post on the forums in the last 4-6 weeks?

I would like to know their views on this new helmet and chest piece

  • 02.21.2011 5:52 PM PDT