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Subject: New helmet spotted in Defiant Map pack

Convert the Nonbelievers.

Let me add something to the discussion: Look at picture 5. Look at the small striped area on the side of the helmet. That almost looks like part of an Elite's jaw armor. As does that silver-ish piece below it. I don't have Reach up right now, so I can't look at the Elite armors... But it's worth looking into I think.

  • 02.23.2011 8:46 PM PDT

Convert the Nonbelievers.

To be honest, the collar piece on the chest looks like something from an elite's armor as well. Are we positive that this isn't an Elite's fading hologram inside the player?

  • 02.23.2011 8:48 PM PDT


Posted by: DeltaFiveZero
At first I intentionally sidestepped this thread, but i'm now convinced you have a legit something-or-other here.

First of all, its a logical fact that other people have the data for my officer armor; if they didn't, when I put it on and played, nobody else would see me correctly. What I have that others don't is the ability to use it.

Another thought; if you can download an entire map and play on it, why can't you download armorand use it?

Well then the problem is that only people who buy the armor can see it? If you're thinking that, you must have short term memory loss. This is easily addressed with a title-update - these happen all the time. Then everybody has the armor and people who purchase the map pack have the armor as well.

I'll admit that having to buy the armor is a little uncool, particularly bundling it with the map pack. They may well give the armor to everyone and are revealing it with the map pack.

Now, at first I thought the helmet was a distorted verson of GUNGIR (due to the shield field) and I didn't even notice the chest, but now it distinctly looks different.

I didn't want to admit new armour could be possible, because I didn't want to set myself up for dissapoinment (I really want MOAR armor, no matter what), but i'm now convinced.

Only time will reveal the truth.


The problem wasn't that you couldn't see it, the problem some people thought was that if you downloaded armor, you would have to download it for every map so it could show up on all the maps which is like installing a game on your Xbox, but I believe that the creators have found a way around this by using some sort of cross-referencing system, so that if the armor is on one map, if you played on a different map and the old map didn't recognize new armor, then that map would cross-reference a map that did have the new armor and would be able to display it. This could be implemented in a simple mandatory update that wouldn't take much space. (Man, that's a mouthful :P)

  • 02.23.2011 8:49 PM PDT


Posted by: xXxGUITARG0DxXx
To be honest, the collar piece on the chest looks like something from an elite's armor as well. Are we positive that this isn't an Elite's fading hologram inside the player?


i thought the same thign! then i looked into it and its no where near close. soo i never made a dispute about it! they are close in how they are worn on the body but they have diff textures and actual shapes soo doenst work!

  • 02.23.2011 8:57 PM PDT


Posted by: killrraider13

Posted by: DeltaFiveZero
At first I intentionally sidestepped this thread, but i'm now convinced you have a legit something-or-other here.

First of all, its a logical fact that other people have the data for my officer armor; if they didn't, when I put it on and played, nobody else would see me correctly. What I have that others don't is the ability to use it.

Another thought; if you can download an entire map and play on it, why can't you download armorand use it?

Well then the problem is that only people who buy the armor can see it? If you're thinking that, you must have short term memory loss. This is easily addressed with a title-update - these happen all the time. Then everybody has the armor and people who purchase the map pack have the armor as well.

I'll admit that having to buy the armor is a little uncool, particularly bundling it with the map pack. They may well give the armor to everyone and are revealing it with the map pack.

Now, at first I thought the helmet was a distorted verson of GUNGIR (due to the shield field) and I didn't even notice the chest, but now it distinctly looks different.

I didn't want to admit new armour could be possible, because I didn't want to set myself up for dissapoinment (I really want MOAR armor, no matter what), but i'm now convinced.

Only time will reveal the truth.


The problem wasn't that you couldn't see it, the problem some people thought was that if you downloaded armor, you would have to download it for every map so it could show up on all the maps which is like installing a game on your Xbox, but I believe that the creators have found a way around this by using some sort of cross-referencing system, so that if the armor is on one map, if you played on a different map and the old map didn't recognize new armor, then that map would cross-reference a map that did have the new armor and would be able to display it. This could be implemented in a simple mandatory update that wouldn't take much space. (Man, that's a mouthful :P)


hehehe thats what she said!!!

ok had to make sure i was first on saying that!! but as far as what yor asking for isnt impossible just takes time and effort and clearly this thread alone shows that ppl want it and there is a demand but does it out way the cost (man hours and what not) I'm hoping it does!! BTW battle for LA has a contest going on with REACH and says to play halo reach on mar 3-6th! I'm thinking thats a damn good time to release the new map pack!!!!!!! just sayin

[Edited on 02.23.2011 9:00 PM PST]

  • 02.23.2011 8:58 PM PDT

Convert the Nonbelievers.


Posted by: Nerf Herder 83

Posted by: xXxGUITARG0DxXx
To be honest, the collar piece on the chest looks like something from an elite's armor as well. Are we positive that this isn't an Elite's fading hologram inside the player?


i thought the same thign! then i looked into it and its no where near close. soo i never made a dispute about it! they are close in how they are worn on the body but they have diff textures and actual shapes soo doenst work!

First of all, your name is awesome. Second, what about the head? Is there an Elite jaw piece that's striped like the small strip on the side of the helmet?

  • 02.23.2011 9:00 PM PDT


Posted by: Nerf Herder 83

Posted by: killrraider13

Posted by: DeltaFiveZero
At first I intentionally sidestepped this thread, but i'm now convinced you have a legit something-or-other here.

First of all, its a logical fact that other people have the data for my officer armor; if they didn't, when I put it on and played, nobody else would see me correctly. What I have that others don't is the ability to use it.

Another thought; if you can download an entire map and play on it, why can't you download armorand use it?

Well then the problem is that only people who buy the armor can see it? If you're thinking that, you must have short term memory loss. This is easily addressed with a title-update - these happen all the time. Then everybody has the armor and people who purchase the map pack have the armor as well.

I'll admit that having to buy the armor is a little uncool, particularly bundling it with the map pack. They may well give the armor to everyone and are revealing it with the map pack.

Now, at first I thought the helmet was a distorted verson of GUNGIR (due to the shield field) and I didn't even notice the chest, but now it distinctly looks different.

I didn't want to admit new armour could be possible, because I didn't want to set myself up for dissapoinment (I really want MOAR armor, no matter what), but i'm now convinced.

Only time will reveal the truth.


The problem wasn't that you couldn't see it, the problem some people thought was that if you downloaded armor, you would have to download it for every map so it could show up on all the maps which is like installing a game on your Xbox, but I believe that the creators have found a way around this by using some sort of cross-referencing system, so that if the armor is on one map, if you played on a different map and the old map didn't recognize new armor, then that map would cross-reference a map that did have the new armor and would be able to display it. This could be implemented in a simple mandatory update that wouldn't take much space. (Man, that's a mouthful :P)


hehehe thats what she said!!!

ok had to make sure i was first on saying that!! but as far as what yor asking for isnt impossible just takes time and effort and clearly this thread alone shows that ppl want it and there is a demand but does it out way the cost (man hours and what not) I'm hoping it does!! BTW battle for LA has a contest going on with REACH and says to play halo reach on mar 3-6th! I'm thinking thats a damn good time to release the new map pack!!!!!!! just sayin


That sounds awfully close to an arby n the chief reference.

  • 02.23.2011 9:01 PM PDT


First of all, your name is awesome. Second, what about the head? Is there an Elite jaw piece that's striped like the small strip on the side of the helmet?[/quote]

gracias! (feel free to add me on xbl same name) umm none of the elites stuff woudl fit the right height or size the face does look like it but as far as the chest only one thats close looks like the ranger! i may be mistaken and someone can look further but all the ones i seen dont match up due to the diff in the elites and spartans size and overall shape. my first thought was it was a glitch trying to put elite armor on a spartan (just the chest, the helmet is a total diff monster!) but look at the marines and odst guys in the game their armor is all kidns of messed up gungnir shoulder pad with sniper rounds on it and tons of diff chest variations! theres room to tweak out new armor even if u cant add totally new items.


********SPOILER******** unless u have already beat the game!! then read on






PLUS TRY THIS OUT!! FOR DIFF HELMETS AT THE END OF THE GAME!!!!
play lone wolf with multiple ppl make sure you dont die last! itll give your final fight scene totally diff armor normally a silverish white color and when it shows yoru helmet with damage (in burnt wasteland view and in new return to reach with grass view)itll be diff helmets with random attachments! i have a pic of a beast A$$ JFO on my file share check it out!

  • 02.23.2011 9:06 PM PDT

hmm...when you do that hologram glitch thing sometimes you'll get a weird plate with a knife on the back, anyone think that could come out?

  • 02.23.2011 9:07 PM PDT


Posted by: BatiiSta
hmm...when you do that hologram glitch thing sometimes you'll get a weird plate with a knife on the back, anyone think that could come out?


No, because you can see him jumping and getting shot at in a couple of the pics.

  • 02.23.2011 9:10 PM PDT

yea it doesnt take much to do it! i think u can even do it with 2 controllers on teh same x box just let the guest live the longest! shoudl still work!! the combos it coems up with are pretty wild

  • 02.23.2011 9:11 PM PDT

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Posted by: KJ1397
Posted by: Nerf Herder 83

First of all, your name is awesome. Second, what about the head? Is there an Elite jaw piece that's striped like the small strip on the side of the helmet?[/quote]

gracias! (feel free to add me on xbl same name) umm none of the elites stuff woudl fit the right height or size the face does look like it but as far as the chest only one thats close looks like the ranger! i may be mistaken and someone can look further but all the ones i seen dont match up due to the diff in the elites and spartans size and overall shape. my first thought was it was a glitch trying to put elite armor on a spartan (just the chest, the helmet is a total diff monster!) but look at the marines and odst guys in the game their armor is all kidns of messed up gungnir shoulder pad with sniper rounds on it and tons of diff chest variations! theres room to tweak out new armor even if u cant add totally new items.


********SPOILER******** unless u have already beat the game!! then read on






PLUS TRY THIS OUT!! FOR DIFF HELMETS AT THE END OF THE GAME!!!!
play lone wolf with multiple ppl make sure you dont die last! itll give your final fight scene totally diff armor normally a silverish white color and when it shows yoru helmet with damage (in burnt wasteland view and in new return to reach with grass view)itll be diff helmets with random attachments! i have a pic of a beast A$$ JFO on my file share check it out!


Ive seen a awesome EVA+JFO+Security type combo like that it was the greatest helmet ever but alas i didnt think to take a screen sot =(
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  • 02.23.2011 9:12 PM PDT

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Posted by: killrraider13
The problem wasn't that you couldn't see it, the problem some people thought was that if you downloaded armor, you would have to download it for every map so it could show up on all the maps which is like installing a game on your Xbox, but I believe that the creators have found a way around this by using some sort of cross-referencing system, so that if the armor is on one map, if you played on a different map and the old map didn't recognize new armor, then that map would cross-reference a map that did have the new armor and would be able to display it. This could be implemented in a simple mandatory update that wouldn't take much space. (Man, that's a mouthful :P)


You can't simply go in and start changing the core code of the game, it would make it unstable.
Also, cross referencing tags is imposable, if some kind of system that you are describing was somehow set up, the game would need to load one of the three DLC maps each time you got into a lobby with someone with this DLC armor. The stress on the RAM of the Xbox would be far too great to be considered feasible.

  • 02.23.2011 9:15 PM PDT

Burn Bright. Burn Blue. Love ya Bungie!

IMAH GOING TO BED NOW! *BLARG*

  • 02.23.2011 9:17 PM PDT

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If there is any kind of DLC armor, it will just be new variations of attachments. We can see that any random attachment can be placed o any random helmet by doing the Lone Wolf glitch or the Hologram glitch (Reference of the Lone Wolf helmet glitch)

So again, the only passable Armory DLC we will be seeing is the addition of old attachments to old helmets.

  • 02.23.2011 9:22 PM PDT

Wow, this is very interesting. Wonder how it's gonna play out.

  • 02.23.2011 9:27 PM PDT


Posted by: Elijah B I
If there is any kind of DLC armor, it will just be new variations of attachments. We can see that any random attachment can be placed o any random helmet by doing the Lone Wolf glitch or the Hologram glitch (Reference of the Lone Wolf helmet glitch)

So again, the only passable Armory DLC we will be seeing is the addition of old attachments to old helmets.


wouldnt mind seeing more of these! esp ones resembling the helmet at question!!!

  • 02.23.2011 9:38 PM PDT

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Posted by: Nerf Herder 83

Posted by: Elijah B I
If there is any kind of DLC armor, it will just be new variations of attachments. We can see that any random attachment can be placed o any random helmet by doing the Lone Wolf glitch or the Hologram glitch (Reference of the Lone Wolf helmet glitch)

So again, the only passable Armory DLC we will be seeing is the addition of old attachments to old helmets.


wouldnt mind seeing more of these! esp ones resembling the helmet at question!!!


I'll do the Hologram glitch a few times tomorrow and will post some of the attachments that I thick may be released.

Unless there is a screen shot of the new armor without something in front of it, I think that all that we will see if anything is agene, just attachments.

  • 02.23.2011 9:46 PM PDT

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Posted by: KJ1397
Posted by: Elijah B I
Posted by: Nerf Herder 83

Posted by: Elijah B I
If there is any kind of DLC armor, it will just be new variations of attachments. We can see that any random attachment can be placed o any random helmet by doing the Lone Wolf glitch or the Hologram glitch (Reference of the Lone Wolf helmet glitch)

So again, the only passable Armory DLC we will be seeing is the addition of old attachments to old helmets.


wouldnt mind seeing more of these! esp ones resembling the helmet at question!!!


I'll do the Hologram glitch a few times tomorrow and will post some of the attachments that I thick may be released.

Unless there is a screen shot of the new armor without something in front of it, I think that all that we will see if anything is agene, just attachments.


Same. If i can it rarley works for me :I


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  • 02.23.2011 9:50 PM PDT