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Subject: New helmet spotted in Defiant Map pack
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Posted by: YoshinoMizumaki
Let's go on a limb and assume there was new armor coming with the maps. That's cool and all. Too bad you can only use it on the Defiant Maps.

Otherwise, you'd have to make room on your HDD to even use it - About 9GB of HDD Space. And even then, it'd cause problems for people that don't have it on their HDD.


I saw a GUNGNIR and an EOD helmet.


True enough, but I see a problem:

Did you read my recent posts in while ago? I spoke about that possibility that bungie hid most of good armor in the layers of codes? Only can be unlocked by special permission file or key... It was probably already coded to work with most of maps, etc. Don't you see it's perfectly logical? Perhaps, bungie had a plan: to get more people to stay on Reach, they would release new armors later... so they can play more to get Cr to buy those new armors.

  • 02.14.2011 7:25 PM PDT


Posted by: YoshinoMizumaki
Let's go on a limb and assume there was new armor coming with the maps. That's cool and all. Too bad you can only use it on the Defiant Maps.

Otherwise, you'd have to make room on your HDD to even use it - About 9GB of HDD Space. And even then, it'd cause problems for people that don't have it on their HDD.

I saw a GUNGNIR and an EOD helmet.


Nothing saying it might just be permission files to enable us to see new armors. Also, that helm and chest shoulder part in the picture? Doesn't match anything currently in the armory. The top of the helm doesn't match EOD or Gungnir.

Posted by: Alexthekid3000
I am think I remember the hacker who leaked all the armors through the press release version also hacked the pre-order/release day armors.


The video/pictures I saw from before release of every armor in the game lacked the recon + addons and the pre-order chest.

  • 02.14.2011 7:26 PM PDT

Posted by: Czech Republic
Keep in mind I almost never quit, I just hate the fact there are over 6 different bans in the game, kind of leads me to think Bungie just enjoy punishing there fanbase.


Posted by: ShifticusGarell
we're all masochists, deal with it

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Have you seen Terminator 2? Remember how John Connor hacked the money machine? He just made up his own key and it unlocked all the money? Yeah, that can still be done.

that was a movie, not reality... also, no i have not seen terminator 2

but the thing is, making up your own key does not work in this situation, the safeguards placed on these file can only be unlocked by 1 specific file, and without that file, it's worthless to try to get it

Not really. Everything can be hacked. Everything. Even the military firewalls if you had 200 supercomputers.

i do not deny this, but the thing is, in order to hack something, you must have the right files. if you know the basic code of the file, you can duplicate it and you're in, but the code for the permission files is kept sealed up tight until release, and as such you cannot get the basic code, and you cannot duplicate the file

I am think I remember the hacker who leaked all the armors through the press release version also hacked the pre-order/release day armors.

is there any proof you can provide for me?

this isn't an i don't believe you thing, i just like to see evidence before i can decide

  • 02.14.2011 7:27 PM PDT

Please don't hype for games...
They'll just fall short of your expectations and you'll complain for months.

I will also turn your attention the the chest, people.

  • 02.14.2011 7:27 PM PDT


Posted by: iQuINcEy
I understand what you are saying Alex but bungie have said a TU would be possible but it would be a large update(cant find link)
about 9 gigs lol but what if that was a lie to throw ppl off the sent of the surprise?


They never said a TU would be 9 gigs, they said that in order to add more armor they would have to force everyone to download all the maps to their hard drive, because the armor is compressed into the .map files. They said it would be unfeasible to require everyone to download several gigs worth of maps for new armor, and they would be right. Unless there's a way that's been found around this, I don't know, your guess is as good as mine

  • 02.14.2011 7:27 PM PDT

Posted by: YoshinoMizumaki
Let's go on a limb and assume there was new armor coming with the maps. That's cool and all. Too bad you can only use it on the Defiant Maps.

Otherwise, you'd have to make room on your HDD to even use it - About 9GB of HDD Space. And even then, it'd cause problems for people that don't have it on their HDD.


I saw a GUNGNIR and an EOD helmet.


GUNGNIR has a small eye not a large lens, both helms do not have the silver ear bits on them and what about the chest?

also this is what bungie have said but it could be a lie(I do not know anything about code)
and did you play fable2? when the DLC came out, if you had it you could not interact with other players unless they downloaded the free update for each bit of DLC.

  • 02.14.2011 7:29 PM PDT

No wonder the Covenant lost as soon as the Elites came over to our side. After that, we had all the re-spawning troops, and they were stuck with the soldiers who only could die once. Kind of a crappy decision on their part.

Is it just me or does it look like they slapped a spartan visor onto a marine helmet and added a few things?

Btw cool armor. If we can use this, i definitely will.

  • 02.14.2011 7:30 PM PDT

Would like to wear security with that chest piece.

  • 02.14.2011 7:31 PM PDT

Give me a minute, and I'll highlight the new pieces on the one picture.

  • 02.14.2011 7:32 PM PDT

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That helmet looks pretty interesting. I'd tap that.

  • 02.14.2011 7:32 PM PDT

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Posted by: iQuINcEy
I understand what you are saying Alex but bungie have said a TU would be possible but it would be a large update(cant find link)
about 9 gigs lol but what if that was a lie to throw ppl off the sent of the surprise?


They never said a TU would be 9 gigs, they said that in order to add more armor they would have to force everyone to download all the maps to their hard drive, because the armor is compressed into the .map files. They said it would be unfeasible to require everyone to download several gigs worth of maps for new armor, and they would be right. Unless there's a way that's been found around this, I don't know, your guess is as good as mine


Ok well I read a post that someone quoted bungie, thats where I got 9gigs from lol

  • 02.14.2011 7:33 PM PDT

Posted by: Czech Republic
Keep in mind I almost never quit, I just hate the fact there are over 6 different bans in the game, kind of leads me to think Bungie just enjoy punishing there fanbase.


Posted by: ShifticusGarell
we're all masochists, deal with it

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That helmet looks pretty interesting. I'd tap that.

nice choice of words, goat

  • 02.14.2011 7:33 PM PDT
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Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat
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The threads were we could come together as brothers instead of as enemies and explore a strange new world?

Supposedly there's a new Elite hat too?

[Edited on 02.14.2011 7:34 PM PST]

  • 02.14.2011 7:34 PM PDT

Posted by: Czech Republic
Keep in mind I almost never quit, I just hate the fact there are over 6 different bans in the game, kind of leads me to think Bungie just enjoy punishing there fanbase.


Posted by: ShifticusGarell
we're all masochists, deal with it

Posted by: Methew
Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat
I MISS THESE THREADS!

The threads were we could come together as brothers instead of as enemies and explore a strange new world?

having fun, non-flaming arguments that actually bring up good points

  • 02.14.2011 7:35 PM PDT

new armor yay now will i get it for free or buy it

  • 02.14.2011 7:35 PM PDT

Its funny how all the normal members that post saying 'new armor is impossible' or whatever are nowhere to be found.

  • 02.14.2011 7:35 PM PDT

-blam!- I know, but I traced the area's of the Spartan's armor that are not in the current armory we can see.

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/2618/highlighty.jpg

  • 02.14.2011 7:36 PM PDT

Normally I'm a naysayer in these kinds of threads, but...that does look like a new helmet. The only way I could think of that happening without new armor is if the Operator, EOD, and GUNGNIR helmet had an orgy on the player model.

  • 02.14.2011 7:36 PM PDT

Posted by: Czech Republic
Keep in mind I almost never quit, I just hate the fact there are over 6 different bans in the game, kind of leads me to think Bungie just enjoy punishing there fanbase.


Posted by: ShifticusGarell
we're all masochists, deal with it

Posted by: fatpanda46
new armor yay now will i get it for free or buy it

if our suspicions are correct, you will need to buy the map pack

  • 02.14.2011 7:36 PM PDT
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Posted by: normajean19
Its funny how all the normal members that post saying 'new armor is impossible' or whatever are nowhere to be found.


because we have proved that it was impossible and, even if it is indeed new armor, you will only be able to wear it in those 3 maps, otherwise you'd have to re-download all the multiplayer, fire fight and campaign map onto your HDD.

besides, we have other things to do than being on a video game forum 24/7 praising bungie.

[Edited on 02.14.2011 7:38 PM PST]

  • 02.14.2011 7:37 PM PDT
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Posted by: ParagonRenegade
Looks like an illegitimate child between EOD & GUNGNIR

  • 02.14.2011 7:38 PM PDT

Posted by: Czech Republic
Keep in mind I almost never quit, I just hate the fact there are over 6 different bans in the game, kind of leads me to think Bungie just enjoy punishing there fanbase.


Posted by: ShifticusGarell
we're all masochists, deal with it

Posted by: HalfwayPlanet
Posted by: ParagonRenegade
Looks like an illegitimate child between EOD & GUNGNIR

Paragon, i think you unintentionally started something

  • 02.14.2011 7:39 PM PDT

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Posted by: normajean19
Its funny how all the normal members that post saying 'new armor is impossible' or whatever are nowhere to be found.


because we have proved that it was impossible and, even if it is indeed new armor, you will only be able to wear it in those 3 maps, otherwise you'd have to re-download all the multiplayer, fire fight and campaign map onto your HDD.

besides, we have other things to do than being on a video game forum 24/7 praising bungie.


did you read all the other posts? ppl have given very convincing reasons for how and why this is not completely true and how it could be got around

  • 02.14.2011 7:41 PM PDT
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Posted by: ShifticusGarell
Posted by: Methew
Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat
I MISS THESE THREADS!

The threads were we could come together as brothers instead of as enemies and explore a strange new world?

having fun, non-flaming arguments that actually bring up good points

We had those?

Also: New Elite Hat?

  • 02.14.2011 7:42 PM PDT

Posted by: Czech Republic
Keep in mind I almost never quit, I just hate the fact there are over 6 different bans in the game, kind of leads me to think Bungie just enjoy punishing there fanbase.


Posted by: ShifticusGarell
we're all masochists, deal with it

Posted by: iQuINcEy
Posted by: Ix LP xI

Posted by: normajean19
Its funny how all the normal members that post saying 'new armor is impossible' or whatever are nowhere to be found.


because we have proved that it was impossible and, even if it is indeed new armor, you will only be able to wear it in those 3 maps, otherwise you'd have to re-download all the multiplayer, fire fight and campaign map onto your HDD.

besides, we have other things to do than being on a video game forum 24/7 praising bungie.


did you read all the other posts? ppl have given very convincing reasons for how and why this is not completely true and how it could be got around

around 10% probably being me lol jk

  • 02.14.2011 7:43 PM PDT