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Subject: New helmet spotted in Defiant Map pack [Updated with movies & p...

Lets just say a helmet or two are actually released. Now what? You buy it maybe? Is there something I'm missing because I like armor but I just don't see why you are excited enough to keep looking for proof.

  • 03.04.2011 7:26 PM PDT


Posted by: PILLKMT2
Its probably a new armour add on for an exsisting set of armour rather than a whole new "section" of a helemt


I'd seriously doubt that, that attachment would be more complicated than the haunted attachment for the pilot helmet.

  • 03.04.2011 7:28 PM PDT
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Posted by: xxo ACE oxx
Now that the Defiant Map pack is officially public, I found some pics on the interwebs that shows a new helmet.

Videos below,
Frank O'Connor stuttering when asked about new gear (Armor) see 4:10

Frank O'Connor talking to GameTrailers
"There's a couple of interesting easter eggs in there"

"We do have achievements as we typically do with DLC, and there may be some other things that you will err... find out over the months... but that's all on goona say on that at this point" [smiles]

"We are definalty supporting Halo: Reach for the rest of 2011 and beyond, so this is not the last content you will see for Halo: Reach"


Video here, time of interest is from 2:01


Pics below,
A big large one for the non believers, Oh Yeah!
Now with 5 players in FireFight
Pic 1
Pic 2
Pic 3
Pic 4
Pic 5

Here is a pic of all current available armor,

Not a real box-shot just me being creative

Comments from key people,
bs angel (343 Industries)

What do you think, is this a new helmet?

Some key points posted over the following pages

I want to clear up a few terms here. I have read every page of this thread the last few days, not a post has gone unchecked. Somethings I'm about to go over ARE in fact restatements of things others have said, but none the less need to be stated again.

The first thing every intelligent person in this thread can agree on is this: The helmet and chest piece we see in these pictures have never been seen before. Not in Reach, Halo 3, and as far as I can tell, not in any Bungie title, unlike some other armor (security).

The second thing we can agree on is that the ONLY spartan to have armor other then default is the fancy British one with this monocle and necklace. This points out one very clear thing for me: they did that on purpose so people could find it, and create 2k+ post threads. That's a free ad right there, better then something you'll see on the sidebar of Facebook. It's the same thing that Bungie did with they're ODST interview videos. One person finds this site, another person finds the code, and now 10k posts later, people are more excited for the game. That's all we're seeing, just in a lower scale.

But now the question begs, where did this armor come from? Some people seem to think that it's and old build of the game, and the armor is cut. First off that's near impossible. Why make a map pack for a finished game, but base it off old code? For the map pack would not work on the current build of the game. Secondly, the dev (Certain Affinity) would not even have access to any other build. Thirdly, the building of the map pack began after release, unlike Noble. So this cannot be the answer.

So that leaves the possibility of it being hidden on the disk, or being downloaded. Before I get into this, let me say I did not code Reach in any way shape or form, so I do not know the capabilities of the engine fully. What I DO understand is general game design, and how to find things in the "code", which is really just a file directory.

In my opinion, I think the new armor is going to be in a download. And that is because I cannot find it on the disk. Now I'm sure people that disagree with me are getting ready to pull out the old "Disk Locked", or "Otto Said balh blah". Here is my rebuttal. It is called "Data Mining".

The difference between modding and data mining is that modders just set their credits to 9999999999 and boot up the game. Data mining is the act of looking the games code for things not easily seen on-game.

I did not mod my x-box to unlock everything like you may think. Oh no. I'm using a modded version of a program called "MyWarcraftStudio". This allows anyone to enter the file system of the game "World of Warcraft", and then fiddle with them as such. I used to make mods for the game, oh, 3 years ago I think, towards the end of BC. This is besides the point.

Using the program, I inserted a Reach disk, and was able to begin to browse the folders. I found folders for every piece of armor, the corresponding attachments, and armor effects. Including UA chest, Officer, Flames, and Bungie Blue Flames. I did not find anything that I could not identify. While it is not impossible I my have missed anything that is still hidden on this disk, however if I did, there is not much more to come. This leads me to why I believe the armor will be downloaded: simple fan cry out.

We begged all halo 3 long for Blood Gulch. We got it. We begged since Halo CE for pelicans. We got it, even if it is hidden. We cried to nerf the BR, and yes, we got it. And one of our biggest pleas was for new armor. Why oh why oh why would they not incorporate this into a game that they basically re-built from the ground up? Especially when the focus on a vast armory for the players is one of the main focus points of the game?

Now I'm sure a bunch of you that pulled out your other arguments are saying right now that new armor would only be used in the new maps. To think that this could not be fixed with a simple title update would be so naive that it may warrant and IQ test.

So ion short, due to me not finding it while physically scrolling through code, the large outcry for it, the simplicity and likelihood of an updated armory system, and the shear near impossibility of a new map being build off an old system, I must come to the conclusion that the most likely outcome is that the code for the new armor's visuals will be beamed to my Xbox when the pack comes out, and the code for wearing it will be beamed when I buy the maps.


In the BWU it doesn't say that there will be any new armor.

  • 03.04.2011 7:29 PM PDT


Posted by: SwimTurtleJO
Lets just say a helmet or two are actually released. Now what? You buy it maybe? Is there something I'm missing because I like armor but I just don't see why you are excited enough to keep looking for proof.


At this point in the thread it's not just the armor, while that is still the main point, but more for any other secrets that may be hiding behind defiant's release

  • 03.04.2011 7:30 PM PDT


Posted by: killrraider13

Posted by: Tear 08
Posted by: killrraider13
Hey guys I noticed something, you know how Shock 120 has been denying that new armor is coming? Well, look at the links on the OP and see who submitted the pictures on that website. What's the deal Shock?

...the fu-ck(?)
That's either proved my theory that he's just some third party member of Bungie/343i/Microsoft just trying to make this crap interesting...or whoever uploaded those pictures had a damn good sense of humour...


I know seriously, hey SHOCK!!! Answer us! We need some answers. You deny the existence of new armor, yet you submitted pictures that helped prove the existence of new armor, what's your logic?


Shoooooccckk, we're still waiting on an explanation.

[Edited on 03.04.2011 7:32 PM PST]

  • 03.04.2011 7:32 PM PDT

whatever it is.... i want it.

  • 03.04.2011 8:17 PM PDT

Pretty sure I'm a thread killer...

Like a meerkat, the poor thing is frightened, it wont come out of its hole.

  • 03.04.2011 8:24 PM PDT

Magnum & Sprint.

WTF Shock, that's too weird

  • 03.05.2011 1:38 AM PDT

Me and a friend were discussing this topic and we decided that what happens is that certain helmets are changed while playing the defiant map pack

  • 03.05.2011 2:01 AM PDT

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Posted by: killrraider13Posted by: killrraider13
I know seriously, hey SHOCK!!! Answer us! We need some answers. You deny the existence of new armor, yet you submitted pictures that helped prove the existence of new armor, what's your logic?
Shoooooccckk, we're still waiting on an explanation.
They're just images, and anyone can host them.

Posted by: BleedingUranium
WTF Shock, that's too weird
Did it honestly take you guys this long to notice?

  • 03.05.2011 4:44 AM PDT

You a gurl?

-blam!- big thread "step away"

  • 03.05.2011 4:48 AM PDT
Subject: New helmet spotted in Defiant Map pack

~ Nipples

"There is no new armor coming with the Defiant Map Pack. On March 15th, you can look forward to three new maps: Condemned (supports 6 - 12 players), Highlands (supports 8 - 16 players), and Unearthed (supports up to 4 players in Firefight mode)."
Quoth 343 industries.

  • 03.05.2011 5:07 AM PDT
Subject: New helmet spotted in Defiant Map pack [Updated with movies & p...

You know you play Halo too much when you hock a lugie in you girlfriends face and scream "BOOM HEADSHOT!" ;)

You fail dude. Bungie already said in last weeks update that Certain Afinity added NO ARMOR to the map pack.

Jeezus -blam!- Christ, get a -blam!- life instead of constantly polluting the forums with useless bull-blam!-.

  • 03.05.2011 5:11 AM PDT
Subject: New helmet spotted in Defiant Map pack

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Posted by: Redthunda69
"There is no new armor coming with the Defiant Map Pack. On March 15th, you can look forward to three new maps: Condemned (supports 6 - 12 players), Highlands (supports 8 - 16 players), and Unearthed (supports up to 4 players in Firefight mode)."
Quoth 343 industries.
[ Insert post which plays on the word "with" ]

  • 03.05.2011 5:11 AM PDT

~ Nipples

Posted by: Shock120
Posted by: Redthunda69
"There is no new armor coming with the Defiant Map Pack. On March 15th, you can look forward to three new maps: Condemned (supports 6 - 12 players), Highlands (supports 8 - 16 players), and Unearthed (supports up to 4 players in Firefight mode)."
Quoth 343 industries.
[ Insert post which plays on the word "with" ]

If your theory requires that much splitting of hairs, its just stupid.

  • 03.05.2011 5:12 AM PDT

So should i save for the new armor?

  • 03.05.2011 5:15 AM PDT
Subject: New helmet spotted in Defiant Map pack [Updated with movies & p...


Posted by: Dark3nd Av3ng3r
You fail dude. Bungie already said in last weeks update that Certain Afinity added NO ARMOR to the map pack.

Jeezus -blam!- Christ, get a -blam!- life instead of constantly polluting the forums with useless bull-blam!-.
all bungie did was quote BSA and in that same thread on waypoint she said if i tell you about the helm i got to kill you

  • 03.05.2011 5:28 AM PDT

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Posted by: Redthunda69
If your theory requires that much splitting of hairs, its just stupid.
Not my theory, and I don't exactly believe in playing on one simple word to keep false hope of armor DLC coming in the future.

Also, 2 more pages to 200. :D

[Edited on 03.05.2011 5:31 AM PST]

  • 03.05.2011 5:29 AM PDT

Its hardly playing on one word anymore now is it.... if you take into consideration all the video interviews etc
BSA mentioned not wanting to spoil the surprise or secret(can't remember exactly) and frank keeps going on about a few surprises coming in the next few months.. I.e new armor and title update(fingers crossed)
not to mention the 'easter eggs' in the maps, 'skulls' maybe?

please stop quoting the BWU, we do not think the armor is shipping WITH the maps. videos 100% confirm that it wont.
but who's to say that there will not be vidmasters or skulls/collectibles that unlocks this? no proof that this is not happening

[Edited on 03.05.2011 5:49 AM PST]

  • 03.05.2011 5:43 AM PDT

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Halo Reach coming to Games on Demand - March 15

Cool, same time as the Defiant map pack release. :D

  • 03.05.2011 5:48 AM PDT

Posted by: Shock120
Halo Reach coming to Games on Demand - March 15

Cool, same time as the Defiant map pack release. :D

lol wow so sales drop cuz of the flaws in the games and they decide to make it DL from the dashboard -.-
maybe concentrate on fixing a few thing in reach or better yet bring out knights of the old republic 1/2 on demand!

  • 03.05.2011 5:53 AM PDT

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Posted by: iQuINcEy
Posted by: Shock120
Halo Reach coming to Games on Demand - March 15

Cool, same time as the Defiant map pack release. :D

lol wow so sales drop cuz of the flaws in the games and they decide to make it DL from the dashboard -.-
maybe concentrate on fixing a few thing in reach or better yet bring out knights of the old republic 1/2 on demand!

Good idea, off-topic though
Also it seems more than coincidence that DL for reach and Defiant is Donny out on the same day... Perhaps they're not the only things... Hint, Hint, Wink, Wink, TU, TU

  • 03.05.2011 6:02 AM PDT


Posted by: Shock120
Halo Reach coming to Games on Demand - March 15

Cool, same time as the Defiant map pack release. :D



So we see a new helmet in a DLC trailer, now the game is available for dl from xbdb. Based on current findings, it takes new .map files to add armor. So maybe new armor comes in the DL version? That would suck for all the loyal fans that currently have the game, unless there was some way to get it without having to buy it again...

  • 03.05.2011 6:10 AM PDT

wait...... did you say pancakes !?

lol no new armor my ass. reminds me of gabe weller his armor in dead space 2 severed

[Edited on 03.05.2011 6:15 AM PST]

  • 03.05.2011 6:14 AM PDT