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Posted by: Sigge87

Posted by: little Brett29
What makes you guys think that chess proves that there will be new armour? All chess is is the noble team members and Elites that are really back and really white to represent chess pieces. So what makes you think it proves new armour?
means noble teams armor we cant get as of now is in atleast part of MM


So what if their in MM? That doesnt prove anything

[Edited on 04.02.2011 10:23 AM PDT]

  • 04.02.2011 10:19 AM PDT

havnt been in here in awhile!! seen chess on this weeks fails! must say I'm glad new things are coming out! reach lost alot of followers around january time frame! would love to see everyone back into it! Now as far as the helmet!! it hasnt even been a full month since defiant was launched! (the code for bungie weekly update was a defiant map pack code soo im expecting to see 343i start making some more changes soon!
as for me! im on my quest for 100% armor and commendations! if anyone cares to help out in the campaign/firefight hit me up!

  • 04.02.2011 10:24 AM PDT


Posted by: little Brett29

Posted by: Sigge87

Posted by: little Brett29
What makes you guys think that chess proves that there will be new armour? All chess is is the noble team members and Elites that are really back and really white to represent chess pieces. So what makes you think it proves new armour?
means noble teams armor we cant get as of now is in atleast part of MM


So what if their in MM? That doesnt prove anything


Haven't you seen your spartan in the credit description after playing on the black team? Your spartan is wearing jet-black armor, definitely proving it's something that everyone can use.

EDIT: Plus if the game has been ripped apart by modders as a lot of people say, they would've found this in the game and shown it to everyone, meaning this armor has to be new. I don't think that they could've just copied models from the campaign on to a chess board in maps because they still have the armor perms and since chess has a game type, it has the potential to be done on any map, meaning that the armor on the chess board in forge world would be available in all the other maps as well. And before anyone says the armor can't be DLC because there wasn't a download, how did you get the chess gametype without downloading anything hmmmm? And I do believe that's checkmate.

[Edited on 04.02.2011 12:03 PM PDT]

  • 04.02.2011 11:51 AM PDT


Posted by: killrraider13

Posted by: little Brett29

Posted by: Sigge87

Posted by: little Brett29
What makes you guys think that chess proves that there will be new armour? All chess is is the noble team members and Elites that are really back and really white to represent chess pieces. So what makes you think it proves new armour?
means noble teams armor we cant get as of now is in atleast part of MM


So what if their in MM? That doesnt prove anything


Haven't you seen your spartan in the credit description after playing on the black team? Your spartan is wearing jet-black armor, definitely proving it's something that everyone can use.

EDIT: Plus if the game has been ripped apart by modders as a lot of people say, they would've found this in the game and shown it to everyone, meaning this armor has to be new. I don't think that they could've just copied models from the campaign on to a chess board in maps because they still have the armor perms and since chess has a game type, it has the potential to be done on any map, meaning that the armor on the chess board in forge world would be available in all the other maps as well.


OHHHHH ok now I see.

  • 04.02.2011 12:03 PM PDT


Posted by: little Brett29

Posted by: killrraider13

Posted by: little Brett29

Posted by: Sigge87

Posted by: little Brett29
What makes you guys think that chess proves that there will be new armour? All chess is is the noble team members and Elites that are really back and really white to represent chess pieces. So what makes you think it proves new armour?
means noble teams armor we cant get as of now is in atleast part of MM


So what if their in MM? That doesnt prove anything


Haven't you seen your spartan in the credit description after playing on the black team? Your spartan is wearing jet-black armor, definitely proving it's something that everyone can use.

EDIT: Plus if the game has been ripped apart by modders as a lot of people say, they would've found this in the game and shown it to everyone, meaning this armor has to be new. I don't think that they could've just copied models from the campaign on to a chess board in maps because they still have the armor perms and since chess has a game type, it has the potential to be done on any map, meaning that the armor on the chess board in forge world would be available in all the other maps as well. And before anyone says the armor can't be DLC because there wasn't a download, how did you get the chess gametype without downloading anything hmmmm? And I do believe that's checkmate.

OHHHHH ok now I see.


Sorry, just had to make sure that people got that last little tidbit before anyone else had a chance to read it. I always click the submit button too early.

[Edited on 04.02.2011 12:06 PM PDT]

  • 04.02.2011 12:04 PM PDT

And I do believe that's checkmate.
Even though I completely agree with everything you are saying.
I believe this statement is ironic due to the fact that it is IMPOSSIBLE to get a checkmate in the new chess game-type for an unknown reason.

  • 04.02.2011 12:22 PM PDT


Posted by: iLateral GX
And I do believe that's checkmate.
Even though I completely agree with everything you are saying.
I believe this statement is ironic due to the fact that it is IMPOSSIBLE to get a checkmate in the new chess game-type for an unknown reason.


Yeah you can, you just get one of your pieces to kill the king, although the game doesn't end there for some reason, maybe they can make it a vip thing and the king is the vip, if he dies, then the game ends.

[Edited on 04.02.2011 1:09 PM PDT]

  • 04.02.2011 1:08 PM PDT

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Posted by: killrraider13

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Posted by: Coux73
That's why conspiracy theories are so popular. They always tell a more interesting story than the truth, and don't bear the burden of proof.

To me, those pictures are just promotional marketing photos. Nothing more. They are evidence of nothing, other than somewhere, there exists a helmet which we do not have. It could literally be anything.

But the human mind has a hard time grasping the random or chaos. We like to assign meaning to things that inherently have no meaning. "Everything happens for a reason" is the worst phrase in existence. Some things just are, and just happen. Quite the opposite is true. Not everything happens for a reason. Our lives are a sequence of random events strung together from a singular viewpoint. We assign reason to things we cannot explain to try and comfort us from the fact there is much that we do not know and will never know.


Ok. I can agree with that a little... however there still is some truth to "everything happens for a reason" yes some things "just are" and "just happen" however your completely leaving out cause and effect... for instance... 343I would have re-assured us that the armor will never exist. They would have flat out told us that the armor was 343 exclusive armor or whatnot. Also why do people assume the pictures are for promotional use only? why would you try to promote your maps with new armor that is not obtainable? that's false advertising. you can't do that :I and I wouldn't expect that from bungie or 343I.


Not necessarily. Coming out with a definitive answer, one way or another, squashes all discussion to a certain degree. Case in point, turn to the H3 forum and look at two monster threads:
The "Finding the Assassin Skull" and "The Secret of Sandtrap".
In both cases, the rumors were false, but yet Bungie did nothing to resolve any false claims one way or another. Instead, they let the threads linger, and grow to mythic proportions. In the end, there was no secret. Those are the best type, as it allows the user to just pontificate and use their imagination. The best secrets are the ones that don't exist. There is no secret.

So, I would trust 343i or Bungie to squash something that is not ture, as they haven't always done this in the past. Why would they? By remaining quiet, it perpetuates the rumor, true or false, and creates more traffic and discussion. All good things in their eyes. It's the perfect marketing tactic, as it requires no action on their part. All they had to do was post a picture. We did the rest.



I have definitive proof that new armor does indeed exist, go to my fileshare, download Halo Chess, and take a close look at the spartans, and then at the color of the elites after you move them.
Agreed. I am playing it currently and there are tons of armor , colors and occurances happening that modders never revealed and they always reveal every little tidbit about games after release.

Not to mention alpha zombies which was previously thought to be IMPOSSIBLE TO ADD yet here it is lol.

Im pretty sure if modders TOTALY cracked the game they would have had armor and colors like this. But they never did.

. The Flame trail power up trait as well as being able to put a flaming flag on your back wasnt possible before this playlist update.

IF IT WAS then modders would have been wearing Haunted, flame streak powerup, flaming flag on their back and incliment weather /blue flames.. They always put as many cool things on at once as they possibly can.

Bungie ADDED these things to the gametype and im sure they have some new tricks that allow them to modify things beyond what we currently understand =)

From now on IF YOU DONT work for bungie dont come in here and say things arent possible.. unless you actually work for them you cant prove they havent found a way to add such things =)


Whoah, hold on:

Do you mean ENTIRELY new, or "old" attachments paired with helmet's they don't belong on, or body armor that is a combonation of old ones?

If it's the latter, then that's because the lone wolf spartans, the hologram glichtes, and the last custescene glitch all randomly select armor.

It reads attachments as an entire armor par catogoery, so ANY attachment can show up with ANY other attachment on ANY helmet.

Also, some unused features on existing armor can show up, such as some chest peices without the grenade belt when we can only use it with one.

Elite's can spawn without any armor whatsoever, as their armor is read as a set.

As far as color goes, pitch black and camo patterns were in the beta, so it makes sense that they show up.

(I made a whole thread on this stuff a while back)

I'll look into this more when I get my reach back.

EDIT:

examples of what I mean:

http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=283529 5

http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=314839 5 (Not only is it armorless, it also has a unused armor color)

http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=498296 1

http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=588768 5&player=JABBERWOCK%20xeno

http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=268452 8
(notice the missing foreheadplate)

http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=595156 0
(it combines the grenade belt, breacher plate and charges, as well as chest grenades)

http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=149139 88

http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=115154 61

[Edited on 04.02.2011 3:35 PM PDT]

  • 04.02.2011 3:23 PM PDT
Subject: New helmet spotted in Defiant Map pack

hello


Posted by: ParagonRenegade
Looks like an illegitimate child between EOD & GUNGNIR

Are you honestly that retarded?

  • 04.02.2011 3:28 PM PDT
Subject: New helmet spotted in Defiant Map pack [Updated with movies & p...


Posted by: JABBERWOCK xeno

Whoah, hold on:

Do you mean ENTIRELY new, or "old" attachments paired with helmet's they don't belong on, or body armor that is a combonation of old ones?

If it's the latter, then that's because the lone wolf spartans, the hologram glichtes, and the last custescene glitch all randomly select armor.

It reads attachments as an entire armor par catogoery, so ANY attachment can show up with ANY other attachment on ANY helmet.

Also, some unused features on existing armor can show up, such as some chest peices without the grenade belt when we can only use it with one.

Elite's can spawn without any armor whatsoever, as their armor is read as a set.

As far as color goes, pitch black and camo patterns were in the beta, so it makes sense that they show up.

(I made a whole thread on this stuff a while back)

I'll look into this more when I get my reach back.


ENTIRELY new, as in copper/brown visor, armor detail, default chest with robot arm, and jet black armor. Also Jun's shoulder knife. And if they made a Jorge play piece, I'm sure there would've been the red visor too.

[Edited on 04.02.2011 3:35 PM PDT]

  • 04.02.2011 3:29 PM PDT

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Posted by: killrraider13

Posted by: JABBERWOCK xeno

Whoah, hold on:

Do you mean ENTIRELY new, or "old" attachments paired with helmet's they don't belong on, or body armor that is a combonation of old ones?

If it's the latter, then that's because the lone wolf spartans, the hologram glichtes, and the last custescene glitch all randomly select armor.

It reads attachments as an entire armor par catogoery, so ANY attachment can show up with ANY other attachment on ANY helmet.

Also, some unused features on existing armor can show up, such as some chest peices without the grenade belt when we can only use it with one.

Elite's can spawn without any armor whatsoever, as their armor is read as a set.

As far as color goes, pitch black and camo patterns were in the beta, so it makes sense that they show up.

(I made a whole thread on this stuff a while back)

I'll look into this more when I get my reach back.


ENTIRELY new, as in copper/brown visor, armor detail, default chest with robot arm, and jet black armor. Also Jun's shoulder knife. And if they made a Jorge play piece, I'm sure there would've been the red visor too.


Just checked out your file share.

It looks like its a simaler glitch to the lone wolf and hologram ones (check the edit I made in the post), but yours works a bit diffrently.

The armor detail, default chest + robot arm, and coppor visor are all noble team only stuff.

The game must spawn the nobel models, but their main armor color dhows up as white.

Nonetheless, a good find, if my thread were still active, i'd add it.

See if you can replicate it, and have it spawn more armor combos.

Here's my old thread by the way:

http://seventhcolumn.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=4993 4012&postRepeater1-p=1




[Edited on 04.02.2011 3:49 PM PDT]

  • 04.02.2011 3:39 PM PDT


Posted by: JABBERWOCK xeno
Posted by: killrraider13

Posted by: JABBERWOCK xeno

Whoah, hold on:

Do you mean ENTIRELY new, or "old" attachments paired with helmet's they don't belong on, or body armor that is a combonation of old ones?

If it's the latter, then that's because the lone wolf spartans, the hologram glichtes, and the last custescene glitch all randomly select armor.

It reads attachments as an entire armor par catogoery, so ANY attachment can show up with ANY other attachment on ANY helmet.

Also, some unused features on existing armor can show up, such as some chest peices without the grenade belt when we can only use it with one.

Elite's can spawn without any armor whatsoever, as their armor is read as a set.

As far as color goes, pitch black and camo patterns were in the beta, so it makes sense that they show up.

(I made a whole thread on this stuff a while back)

I'll look into this more when I get my reach back.


ENTIRELY new, as in copper/brown visor, armor detail, default chest with robot arm, and jet black armor. Also Jun's shoulder knife. And if they made a Jorge play piece, I'm sure there would've been the red visor too.


Just checked out your file share.

It looks like its a simaler glitch to the lone wolf and hologram ones (check the edit I made in the post), but yours works a bit diffrently.

The armor detail, default chest + robot arm, and coppor visor are all noble team only stuff.

The game must spawn the nobel models, but their main armor color dhows up as white.

Nonetheless, a good find, if my thread were still active, i'd add it.

See if you can replicate it, and have it spawn more armor combos.

Here's my old thread by the way:

http://seventhcolumn.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=4993 4012&postRepeater1-p=1




Still, the fact it even exists in forge world proves new armor can be added, and after you close the game after playing on the black team, it will show your spartan in jet black armor, it also shows the elites in jet black armor after you move them. And after you move the spartans their visors also turn either white or silver, but I haven't had a chance to compare a chess spartan white visor to a regular silver visor yet.

[Edited on 04.02.2011 4:08 PM PDT]

  • 04.02.2011 4:05 PM PDT
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Why is this thread so popular?????? It's just a DAMN HELMET that won't be added to the game!

  • 04.02.2011 4:08 PM PDT


Posted by: JMAN07
Why is this thread so popular?????? It's just a DAMN HELMET that won't be added to the game!


Play Halo chess, look at the spartans, then tell me that again with a straight face, I have the gametype in my fileshare if you want, along with a chessboard map. It's not the helmet, but it is armor that isn't currently available.

[Edited on 04.02.2011 4:13 PM PDT]

  • 04.02.2011 4:10 PM PDT
Subject: New helmet spotted in Defiant Map pack


Posted by: FIRE SHARK 7259

Posted by: ParagonRenegade
Looks like an illegitimate child between EOD & GUNGNIR

Are you honestly that retarded?
it kinda does so why dont you go back into your hole and stop being a ass

  • 04.02.2011 6:17 PM PDT
Subject: New helmet spotted in Defiant Map pack [Updated with movies & p...


Posted by: JMAN07
Why is this thread so popular?????? It's just a DAMN HELMET that won't be added to the game!
its popular becuz there is hope and there is alot of nice ppl in this thread once in a blue moon we get trolls but most good ppl

  • 04.02.2011 6:18 PM PDT
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I don't believe anyone above Noble isn't a booster.


Posted by: JMAN07
Why is this thread so popular?????? It's just a DAMN HELMET that won't be added to the game!
And you know this...how? Have you actually looked into the game's programming? Can you see inside the programmers head? or are you just repeating what you've heard? "DATA MINERS FOUND EVERYTHING ON DISK SO IT CANT BE REAL W/O 9GIG DOWNLOAD HERPDERP."

  • 04.03.2011 8:08 AM PDT
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I like the Mk V armor.


Posted by: Nerf Herder 83
havnt been in here in awhile!! seen chess on this weeks fails! must say I'm glad new things are coming out! reach lost alot of followers around january time frame! would love to see everyone back into it! Now as far as the helmet!! it hasnt even been a full month since defiant was launched! (the code for bungie weekly update was a defiant map pack code soo im expecting to see 343i start making some more changes soon!
as for me! im on my quest for 100% armor and commendations! if anyone cares to help out in the campaign/firefight hit me up!

Stop yelling.

  • 04.03.2011 11:37 AM PDT


Posted by: IamCorn

Posted by: JMAN07
Why is this thread so popular?????? It's just a DAMN HELMET that won't be added to the game!
And you know this...how? Have you actually looked into the game's programming? Can you see inside the programmers head? or are you just repeating what you've heard? "DATA MINERS FOUND EVERYTHING ON DISK SO IT CANT BE REAL W/O 9GIG DOWNLOAD HERPDERP."


And yet programmers never found usable black armor, and yet here it is. Sure as S**t.

  • 04.03.2011 1:26 PM PDT

Bump foar great justices.

  • 04.03.2011 7:35 PM PDT

Posted by: Czech Republic
Keep in mind I almost never quit, I just hate the fact there are over 6 different bans in the game, kind of leads me to think Bungie just enjoy punishing there fanbase.


Posted by: ShifticusGarell
we're all masochists, deal with it

Posted by: killrraider13

Posted by: IamCorn

Posted by: JMAN07
Why is this thread so popular?????? It's just a DAMN HELMET that won't be added to the game!
And you know this...how? Have you actually looked into the game's programming? Can you see inside the programmers head? or are you just repeating what you've heard? "DATA MINERS FOUND EVERYTHING ON DISK SO IT CANT BE REAL W/O 9GIG DOWNLOAD HERPDERP."


And yet programmers never found usable black armor, and yet here it is. Sure as S**t.

black armour can be set as a forced colour option, but as part of the customization, its impossible

  • 04.03.2011 9:32 PM PDT


Posted by: ShifticusGarell
Posted by: killrraider13

Posted by: IamCorn

Posted by: JMAN07
Why is this thread so popular?????? It's just a DAMN HELMET that won't be added to the game!
And you know this...how? Have you actually looked into the game's programming? Can you see inside the programmers head? or are you just repeating what you've heard? "DATA MINERS FOUND EVERYTHING ON DISK SO IT CANT BE REAL W/O 9GIG DOWNLOAD HERPDERP."


And yet programmers never found usable black armor, and yet here it is. Sure as S**t.

black armour can be set as a forced colour option, but as part of the customization, its impossible


Its not immpossible. At the end, if you look at the game stats, it shows you spartan that color.

  • 04.03.2011 9:34 PM PDT


Posted by: little Brett29

Posted by: ShifticusGarell
black armour can be set as a forced colour option, but as part of the customization, its impossible


Its not immpossible. At the end, if you look at the game stats, it shows you spartan that color.


...because you were forced to that color. At the end of a slayer match, you are either blue or red. You don't change back to your own color pair.

  • 04.04.2011 12:43 AM PDT


Posted by: Will1594
this will probably not be read...


I read it :)

On the new topic for the Chess Game Armor: All that armor is just the Noble Team force-colored to White (Kat's Default Chest piece with Robotic Arm, Emile's Copper Visor and Right Wrist Shotgun Shells attatchment, and Jun's right single Knife Shoulder). I hate to say it, but this doesn't mean the armor is availible for Matchmaking.

  • 04.04.2011 12:50 AM PDT

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  • 04.04.2011 1:10 AM PDT