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Posted by: iEaTyOuRcOoKiEs
Posted by: ArchNinja64
The one picture is fake. The sniper the character is holding has a round scope. The sniper scope is not round. The gun also does not look real in general. Even if the helmet's real, I think that picture was photoshopped. Terrible job with the sniper rifle.

TL;DR: This is a shop. I can tell because of the pixels and having seen quite a few shops in my day.

I say the above stuff is wrong.


I agree, it's not a shop. He doesn't even know what the Reach sniper looks like.

  • 05.09.2011 7:49 PM PDT

Been a Bungie fan since the days of Myth TFL.


[b]Posted:/ The whole "hype" (if you can still call it that) behind this helmet won't be so big once the Halo:CE remake is shown at E3.

I still don't believe we're going to see a Halo CE remake. I mean, has anyone seen an official press release of the news, or is it still just circular rumor?

I suspect we'll see some news by June. Anyone notice that the challenges have been relatively easy and matched by an increase in credit payouts? At least, that's been my experience. I think we're getting close. :)

  • 05.10.2011 8:44 AM PDT
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Posted by: Curami1
How many grunts have we killed? Didn't one interview say 'something might unlock after one billion grunts are killed'?


What if we replace "Grunts" with "BOBs" here? It -might- not even be specific BOBs.


What if the BOBs have a milestone?! Kill 1 Billion BOBs or kill 7 Million or kill 117 Million or something! I think we're looking too hard and that combination of killing truckloads of BOBs and getting (maybe) 7 Inheritors out there will bring us new armor. Hell, those Inheritors make a ton of credits, they need something to spend all those spacebucks on.

  • 05.10.2011 9:05 AM PDT

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Posted by: Darth Kooky
and getting (maybe) 7 Inheritors out there will bring us new armor.


There are currently 35 Inheiritors, so that apparently is not an option.

EDIT: But I don't know how many BOBs have been killed, so maybe one part has already been completed. Sorry, quote fail. Didn't realize you meant doing both. I'm dumb.

[Edited on 05.10.2011 3:53 PM PDT]

  • 05.10.2011 3:51 PM PDT


Posted by: ArchNinja64
The one picture is fake. The sniper the character is holding has a round scope. The sniper scope is not round. The gun also does not look real in general. Even if the helmet's real, I think that picture was photoshopped. Terrible job with the sniper rifle.
lol ok 343 is shopping pics thats just stupid

  • 05.11.2011 7:54 AM PDT

Posted by: Sigge87

Posted by: ArchNinja64
The one picture is fake. The sniper the character is holding has a round scope. The sniper scope is not round. The gun also does not look real in general. Even if the helmet's real, I think that picture was photoshopped. Terrible job with the sniper rifle.
lol ok 343 is shopping pics thats just stupid

/facepalm Did we not just go over this?

  • 05.11.2011 12:26 PM PDT

i love reach

i bet u money its the new recon amour for halo reach
Posted by: xxo ACE oxx
Now that the Defiant Map pack is officially public, I found some pics on the interwebs that shows a new helmet.

Videos below,
Frank O'Connor stuttering when asked about new gear (Armor) see 4:10

Frank O'Connor talking to GameTrailers
"There's a couple of interesting easter eggs in there"

"We do have achievements as we typically do with DLC, and there may be some other things that you will err... find out over the months... but that's all on goona say on that at this point" [smiles]

"We are definalty supporting Halo: Reach for the rest of 2011 and beyond, so this is not the last content you will see for Halo: Reach"


Video here, time of interest is from 2:01


Pics below,
A big large one for the non believers, Oh Yeah!
Now with 5 players in FireFight
Pic 1
Pic 2
Pic 3
Pic 4
Pic 5

Here is a pic of all current available armor,

Not a real box-shot just me being creative

Comments from key people,
bs angel (343 Industries)

What do you think, is this a new helmet?

Some key points posted over the following pages

I want to clear up a few terms here. I have read every page of this thread the last few days, not a post has gone unchecked. Somethings I'm about to go over ARE in fact restatements of things others have said, but none the less need to be stated again.

The first thing every intelligent person in this thread can agree on is this: The helmet and chest piece we see in these pictures have never been seen before. Not in Reach, Halo 3, and as far as I can tell, not in any Bungie title, unlike some other armor (security).

The second thing we can agree on is that the ONLY spartan to have armor other then default is the fancy British one with this monocle and necklace. This points out one very clear thing for me: they did that on purpose so people could find it, and create 2k+ post threads. That's a free ad right there, better then something you'll see on the sidebar of Facebook. It's the same thing that Bungie did with they're ODST interview videos. One person finds this site, another person finds the code, and now 10k posts later, people are more excited for the game. That's all we're seeing, just in a lower scale.

But now the question begs, where did this armor come from? Some people seem to think that it's and old build of the game, and the armor is cut. First off that's near impossible. Why make a map pack for a finished game, but base it off old code? For the map pack would not work on the current build of the game. Secondly, the dev (Certain Affinity) would not even have access to any other build. Thirdly, the building of the map pack began after release, unlike Noble. So this cannot be the answer.

So that leaves the possibility of it being hidden on the disk, or being downloaded. Before I get into this, let me say I did not code Reach in any way shape or form, so I do not know the capabilities of the engine fully. What I DO understand is general game design, and how to find things in the "code", which is really just a file directory.

In my opinion, I think the new armor is going to be in a download. And that is because I cannot find it on the disk. Now I'm sure people that disagree with me are getting ready to pull out the old "Disk Locked", or "Otto Said balh blah". Here is my rebuttal. It is called "Data Mining".

The difference between modding and data mining is that modders just set their credits to 9999999999 and boot up the game. Data mining is the act of looking the games code for things not easily seen on-game.

I did not mod my x-box to unlock everything like you may think. Oh no. I'm using a modded version of a program called "MyWarcraftStudio". This allows anyone to enter the file system of the game "World of Warcraft", and then fiddle with them as such. I used to make mods for the game, oh, 3 years ago I think, towards the end of BC. This is besides the point.

Using the program, I inserted a Reach disk, and was able to begin to browse the folders. I found folders for every piece of armor, the corresponding attachments, and armor effects. Including UA chest, Officer, Flames, and Bungie Blue Flames. I did not find anything that I could not identify. While it is not impossible I my have missed anything that is still hidden on this disk, however if I did, there is not much more to come. This leads me to why I believe the armor will be downloaded: simple fan cry out.

We begged all halo 3 long for Blood Gulch. We got it. We begged since Halo CE for pelicans. We got it, even if it is hidden. We cried to nerf the BR, and yes, we got it. And one of our biggest pleas was for new armor. Why oh why oh why would they not incorporate this into a game that they basically re-built from the ground up? Especially when the focus on a vast armory for the players is one of the main focus points of the game?

Now I'm sure a bunch of you that pulled out your other arguments are saying right now that new armor would only be used in the new maps. To think that this could not be fixed with a simple title update would be so naive that it may warrant and IQ test.

So ion short, due to me not finding it while physically scrolling through code, the large outcry for it, the simplicity and likelihood of an updated armory system, and the shear near impossibility of a new map being build off an old system, I must come to the conclusion that the most likely outcome is that the code for the new armor's visuals will be beamed to my Xbox when the pack comes out, and the code for wearing it will be beamed when I buy the maps.

  • 05.11.2011 12:36 PM PDT

Yes. I am a Battle Rifle machine. The DMR is a poor replacement.

Posted by: iEaTyOuRcOoKiEs
Posted by: Sigge87

Posted by: ArchNinja64
The one picture is fake. The sniper the character is holding has a round scope. The sniper scope is not round. The gun also does not look real in general. Even if the helmet's real, I think that picture was photoshopped. Terrible job with the sniper rifle.
lol ok 343 is shopping pics thats just stupid

/facepalm Did we not just go over this?


[b[ *Sympathetic facepalm* [/b] I believe we did...

  • 05.11.2011 2:39 PM PDT


Posted by: MinorJonluke
i bet u money its the new recon amour for halo reach
Posted by: xxo ACE oxx
Now that the Defiant Map pack is officially public, I found some pics on the interwebs that shows a new helmet.

Videos below,
Frank O'Connor stuttering when asked about new gear (Armor) see 4:10

Frank O'Connor talking to GameTrailers
"There's a couple of interesting easter eggs in there"

"We do have achievements as we typically do with DLC, and there may be some other things that you will err... find out over the months... but that's all on goona say on that at this point" [smiles]

"We are definalty supporting Halo: Reach for the rest of 2011 and beyond, so this is not the last content you will see for Halo: Reach"


Video here, time of interest is from 2:01


Pics below,
A big large one for the non believers, Oh Yeah!
Now with 5 players in FireFight
Pic 1
Pic 2
Pic 3
Pic 4
Pic 5

Here is a pic of all current available armor,

Not a real box-shot just me being creative

Comments from key people,
bs angel (343 Industries)

What do you think, is this a new helmet?

Some key points posted over the following pages

I want to clear up a few terms here. I have read every page of this thread the last few days, not a post has gone unchecked. Somethings I'm about to go over ARE in fact restatements of things others have said, but none the less need to be stated again.

The first thing every intelligent person in this thread can agree on is this: The helmet and chest piece we see in these pictures have never been seen before. Not in Reach, Halo 3, and as far as I can tell, not in any Bungie title, unlike some other armor (security).

The second thing we can agree on is that the ONLY spartan to have armor other then default is the fancy British one with this monocle and necklace. This points out one very clear thing for me: they did that on purpose so people could find it, and create 2k+ post threads. That's a free ad right there, better then something you'll see on the sidebar of Facebook. It's the same thing that Bungie did with they're ODST interview videos. One person finds this site, another person finds the code, and now 10k posts later, people are more excited for the game. That's all we're seeing, just in a lower scale.

But now the question begs, where did this armor come from? Some people seem to think that it's and old build of the game, and the armor is cut. First off that's near impossible. Why make a map pack for a finished game, but base it off old code? For the map pack would not work on the current build of the game. Secondly, the dev (Certain Affinity) would not even have access to any other build. Thirdly, the building of the map pack began after release, unlike Noble. So this cannot be the answer.

So that leaves the possibility of it being hidden on the disk, or being downloaded. Before I get into this, let me say I did not code Reach in any way shape or form, so I do not know the capabilities of the engine fully. What I DO understand is general game design, and how to find things in the "code", which is really just a file directory.

In my opinion, I think the new armor is going to be in a download. And that is because I cannot find it on the disk. Now I'm sure people that disagree with me are getting ready to pull out the old "Disk Locked", or "Otto Said balh blah". Here is my rebuttal. It is called "Data Mining".

The difference between modding and data mining is that modders just set their credits to 9999999999 and boot up the game. Data mining is the act of looking the games code for things not easily seen on-game.

I did not mod my x-box to unlock everything like you may think. Oh no. I'm using a modded version of a program called "MyWarcraftStudio". This allows anyone to enter the file system of the game "World of Warcraft", and then fiddle with them as such. I used to make mods for the game, oh, 3 years ago I think, towards the end of BC. This is besides the point.

Using the program, I inserted a Reach disk, and was able to begin to browse the folders. I found folders for every piece of armor, the corresponding attachments, and armor effects. Including UA chest, Officer, Flames, and Bungie Blue Flames. I did not find anything that I could not identify. While it is not impossible I my have missed anything that is still hidden on this disk, however if I did, there is not much more to come. This leads me to why I believe the armor will be downloaded: simple fan cry out.

We begged all halo 3 long for Blood Gulch. We got it. We begged since Halo CE for pelicans. We got it, even if it is hidden. We cried to nerf the BR, and yes, we got it. And one of our biggest pleas was for new armor. Why oh why oh why would they not incorporate this into a game that they basically re-built from the ground up? Especially when the focus on a vast armory for the players is one of the main focus points of the game?

Now I'm sure a bunch of you that pulled out your other arguments are saying right now that new armor would only be used in the new maps. To think that this could not be fixed with a simple title update would be so naive that it may warrant and IQ test.

So ion short, due to me not finding it while physically scrolling through code, the large outcry for it, the simplicity and likelihood of an updated armory system, and the shear near impossibility of a new map being build off an old system, I must come to the conclusion that the most likely outcome is that the code for the new armor's visuals will be beamed to my Xbox when the pack comes out, and the code for wearing it will be beamed when I buy the maps.


It wouldn't surprise me. Although I'm hoping for more armor than just this set.

  • 05.11.2011 5:38 PM PDT

Make Your Own Luck.

Wassup!

[Edited on 05.13.2011 2:52 AM PDT]

  • 05.13.2011 2:50 AM PDT

hasn't been much activity here lately

  • 05.16.2011 1:35 PM PDT


Posted by: Desicator616
hasn't been much activity here lately


I know, it's sad isn't it? We can bring it back up when they find something new.

  • 05.16.2011 2:15 PM PDT
Subject: New helmet spotted in Defiant Map pack

Friends before pixels.

This is a screen capture of when Recon was the hidden helmet of Halo 3

It says that people have searched the code, and not found it. Well, now we can get Recon, so maybe we can get the BoB helmet.

  • 05.16.2011 3:51 PM PDT

Ever wonder what's up there?

Come on guys.
6000 replies and nothing. Let it die.

  • 05.17.2011 12:12 AM PDT

http://fallofreach.net/


Posted by: Dutch_Miles
LOL This goes for everyone who said there wouldnt be any more armor!

HA!!!
This, this, and this some -blam!- more.

  • 05.17.2011 12:24 AM PDT


Posted by: angello22
Come on guys.
6000 replies and nothing. Let it die.


This thread will never die.

  • 05.17.2011 1:58 PM PDT


Posted by: Shadow 13th

Posted by: a casual banana
This is a screen capture of when Recon was the hidden helmet of Halo 3

It says that people have searched the code, and not found it. Well, now we can get Recon, so maybe we can get the BoB helmet.


Don't question the hackers, they pretend to know everything and use fancy insults. You'll br sorry.


Hackers just can't seem to admit that they don't know everything and that Bungie or 343 may have outsmarted them.

  • 05.17.2011 2:00 PM PDT

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Posted by: Shadow 13th

Posted by: a casual banana
This is a screen capture of when Recon was the hidden helmet of Halo 3

It says that people have searched the code, and not found it. Well, now we can get Recon, so maybe we can get the BoB helmet.


Don't question the hackers, they pretend to know everything and use fancy insults. You'll br sorry.
If its not there its not there

  • 05.17.2011 2:11 PM PDT
Subject: New helmet spotted in Defiant Map pack [Updated with movies & p...

We march to the drums of the damned.

You're soooo late! And ill informed. This armor has been there since the very beginning, you're just not ranked high enough to get it. Please check your facts before posting stupid things like this.

  • 05.17.2011 2:14 PM PDT


Posted by: Spartan 11576
You're soooo late! And ill informed. This armor has been there since the very beginning, you're just not ranked high enough to get it. Please check your facts before posting stupid things like this.


Umm... what? No one has this helmet, or that chest piece. Not even the few inheritors that there are now.

  • 05.17.2011 2:24 PM PDT

does anybody really want this... "thing"?
imho it's ugly as -blam!-.

[Edited on 05.17.2011 2:49 PM PDT]

  • 05.17.2011 2:49 PM PDT


Posted by: raindoc
does anybody really want this... "thing"?
imho it's ugly as -blam!-.


It's not really the helmet itself, it's the hope that more armor is hidden behind it. And opinions on how it looks is pretty varied. Personally I think it's meh, as in I could take this helmet or leave it. I'd probably buy it if I had nothing better to do with my credits.

  • 05.17.2011 8:16 PM PDT

It's been 7,777,777 secounds (Give or take a few)(90 Days) since the new helmet was spotted and not a single comment from Bungie, well so much for them "loving the community".

That's me done with Halo: Reach, I will do only the Weekly LASOs as I think there might be a reward for doing them.

Apart from the LASO's this is me signing off!

  • 05.18.2011 5:59 AM PDT


Posted by: xxo ACE oxx
It's been 7,777,777 secounds (Give or take a few)(90 Days) since the new helmet was spotted and not a single comment from Bungie, well so much for them "loving the community".

That's me done with Halo: Reach, I will do only the Weekly LASOs as I think there might be a reward for doing them.

Apart from the LASO's this is me signing off!


Im trying one last theory.

Since the helmet looks like the BoBs from marathon, Im trying to play Marathon: Durandal and get the following achievements:

1) Campaign complete
2) Vidmaster: I give no secrets
3) All Terminals accessed
4) "They're everywhere!" (Kill 77 BoBs) <- Done

Im thinking that maybe having the vidmaster and maybe some others as well may unlock the helmet. I mean, look at how Recon was unlocked in H3 by having achievements from both H3 & ODST. and since the helemet has ties to Marathon, this is what spawned my theory.

I know its a long shot, but its my last theory and to my knowledge no one has tried it yet.

I should have it done by the end of the week. I will post back when I do. The vidmaster is a bit of a b1tch though.

  • 05.18.2011 8:38 AM PDT