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Subject: New helmet spotted in Defiant Map pack [Updated with movies & p...

Where's the original picture of teh 5 Spartans in Firefight? Preferably uploaded on a site like IGN, or any other known gaming website.

  • 03.15.2011 8:35 PM PDT

Meh pancake-mix.

Posted by: iQuINcEy
Posted by: onixasr3
Here's a clue people. If you get the Defiant achievements and try to register them into your milestones. You can see that it doesn't upload. If you take a look at your achievement records for Halo Reach in Halo Waypoint you can see that you haven't earned a single one. I have all 3 but on Waypoint they won't show up. Maybe we have to wait for an update for Halo Waypoint and then we can get that helmet.


is this true? cuz then Thats more proof imo, can anyone else confirm this?

I'm not lying about this. Once I got my last achievement which was Crackin Skulls. I went to Waypoint, went to Career, and it scanned my achievements, yet the bar didn't move. I went to my achievement records and in Waypoint, they weren't there but in my Xbox Live profile they were.

  • 03.15.2011 8:37 PM PDT
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Posted by: onixasr3
Posted by: iQuINcEy
Posted by: onixasr3
Here's a clue people. If you get the Defiant achievements and try to register them into your milestones. You can see that it doesn't upload. If you take a look at your achievement records for Halo Reach in Halo Waypoint you can see that you haven't earned a single one. I have all 3 but on Waypoint they won't show up. Maybe we have to wait for an update for Halo Waypoint and then we can get that helmet.


is this true? cuz then Thats more proof imo, can anyone else confirm this?

I'm not lying about this. Once I got my last achievement which was Crackin Skulls. I went to Waypoint, went to Career, and it scanned my achievements, yet the bar didn't move. I went to my achievement records and in Waypoint, they weren't there but in my Xbox Live profile they were.
Waypoint probably has to be programmed to notice and accept the new achievements.

  • 03.15.2011 8:39 PM PDT

I agree.

The Military Police and the CQB helmet were all Halo Waypoint exclusives.

I'll bet money on the helmet being unlocked when you get the three achievements scanned on waypoint.

I did the same thing. It scans the achievements and the bar, simply, does not move.

Waypoint Update = New helmet

BOO YAH!!!!

  • 03.15.2011 8:43 PM PDT

Meh pancake-mix.

If you have any of the Defiant one on your Xbox profile and did the upload thing on Waypoint. Look at the achievement records in Waypoint under Halo Reach. There locked and I already have them.

  • 03.15.2011 8:44 PM PDT

Meh pancake-mix.

Posted by: Viper 9
I agree.

The Military Police and the CQB helmet were all Halo Waypoint exclusives.

I'll bet money on the helmet being unlocked when you get the three achievements scanned on waypoint.

I did the same thing. It scans the achievements and the bar, simply, does not move.

Waypoint Update = New helmet

BOO YAH!!!!

Told you. When will the update be? It's not to hard to get 3 achievements in one day.

  • 03.15.2011 9:05 PM PDT

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Posted by: onixasr3
Posted by: Viper 9
I agree.

The Military Police and the CQB helmet were all Halo Waypoint exclusives.

I'll bet money on the helmet being unlocked when you get the three achievements scanned on waypoint.

I did the same thing. It scans the achievements and the bar, simply, does not move.

Waypoint Update = New helmet

BOO YAH!!!!

Told you. When will the update be? It's not to hard to get 3 achievements in one day.


ok, the possibility is high, but dont get all excited.

  • 03.15.2011 10:26 PM PDT

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Posted by: onixasr3
Posted by: iQuINcEy
Posted by: onixasr3
Here's a clue people. If you get the Defiant achievements and try to register them into your milestones. You can see that it doesn't upload. If you take a look at your achievement records for Halo Reach in Halo Waypoint you can see that you haven't earned a single one. I have all 3 but on Waypoint they won't show up. Maybe we have to wait for an update for Halo Waypoint and then we can get that helmet.


is this true? cuz then Thats more proof imo, can anyone else confirm this?

I'm not lying about this. Once I got my last achievement which was Crackin Skulls. I went to Waypoint, went to Career, and it scanned my achievements, yet the bar didn't move. I went to my achievement records and in Waypoint, they weren't there but in my Xbox Live profile they were.


dude same with me I totally loaded up waypoint twice already trying to see if they would show up but still no dice. Can't wait to see what the future brings! I know I have nothing to worry about cause I have all the achievements already (again)... They were almost TOO easy but I am not complaining

  • 03.15.2011 10:26 PM PDT

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Posted by: Shadow 13th
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Posted by: onixasr3
Posted by: iQuINcEy
Posted by: onixasr3
Here's a clue people. If you get the Defiant achievements and try to register them into your milestones. You can see that it doesn't upload. If you take a look at your achievement records for Halo Reach in Halo Waypoint you can see that you haven't earned a single one. I have all 3 but on Waypoint they won't show up. Maybe we have to wait for an update for Halo Waypoint and then we can get that helmet.


is this true? cuz then Thats more proof imo, can anyone else confirm this?

I'm not lying about this. Once I got my last achievement which was Crackin Skulls. I went to Waypoint, went to Career, and it scanned my achievements, yet the bar didn't move. I went to my achievement records and in Waypoint, they weren't there but in my Xbox Live profile they were.


dude same with me I totally loaded up waypoint twice already trying to see if they would show up but still no dice. Can't wait to see what the future brings! I know I have nothing to worry about cause I have all the achievements already (again)... They were almost TOO easy but I am not complaining


Yeah, Reach's achievements have been SO easy, it's been a nice break.


Tell me about it... And I also heard something about being able to complete reach's MM achievements in custom games... as if you REALLY need to.

  • 03.15.2011 11:09 PM PDT

so thats 3 ppl who have had the same thing with waypoint, well thats it then in my mind. update for waypoint and reach at the same time maybe? to the guy who called us all retards.... explain that then! and it cant be that waypoint needs updating to see the acheves as they are already showing up so..... great find onixasr3 mate

  • 03.16.2011 5:51 AM PDT

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How is it a Gugnir EOD mix In the last photo that's just a flare of shield or explosion near the helmet. It doesn't show up on the first 2 pics, so no new helmet? And probably Bungie/Certain Affinity only chest. Bungie said there wasn't new armor, I haven't seen any yet. If there was armor, Bungie would have talked about "surprises"

  • 03.16.2011 8:03 AM PDT

I understand that people would think it is cool to have new armor and stuff, but the pictures of the helmet that is supposed to be new..... I mean it is not that cool looking.

  • 03.16.2011 8:06 AM PDT

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Posted by: calistrat1991
I understand that people would think it is cool to have new armor and stuff, but the pictures of the helmet that is supposed to be new..... I mean it is not that cool looking.


meh, its more the possibility than the helmet, will be cool but i doubt ill change from my Mrk VI (Maybe for security when i rank up c:)

till now everyone said this wasnt possible, and well, i doubt there gonna have an update to add One Helmet... :P

Keeping a holdout for the possibility of a Waypoint Update c:

  • 03.16.2011 8:11 AM PDT
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Posted by: calistrat1991
I understand that people would think it is cool to have new armor and stuff, but the pictures of the helmet that is supposed to be new..... I mean it is not that cool looking.


I think it's the potential possibility of new armor that has people excited more than the actual armor itself.

  • 03.16.2011 8:18 AM PDT

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Posted by: calistrat1991
I understand that people would think it is cool to have new armor and stuff, but the pictures of the helmet that is supposed to be new..... I mean it is not that cool looking.


meh, its more the possibility than the helmet, will be cool but i doubt ill change from my Mrk VI (Maybe for security when i rank up c:)

till now everyone said this wasnt possible, and well, i doubt there gonna have an update to add One Helmet... :P

Keeping a holdout for the possibility of a Waypoint Update c:


Yeah, agreed. It isn't THAT helmet, but the possibility of more armor. I really don't see what I would change from my armor as it is. I think it's epic. So, I guess we'll see.

  • 03.16.2011 8:19 AM PDT

Some people seem to think that it's and old build of the game, and the armor is cut. First off that's near impossible. Why make a map pack for a finished game, but base it off old code? For the map pack would not work on the current build of the game. Secondly, the dev (Certain Affinity) would not even have access to any other build. Thirdly, the building of the map pack began after release, unlike Noble. So this cannot be the answer.

So that leaves the possibility of it being hidden on the disk, or being downloaded. Before I get into this, let me say I did not code Reach in any way shape or form, so I do not know the capabilities of the engine fully. What I DO understand is general game design, and how to find things in the "code", which is really just a file directory.

In my opinion, I think the new armor is going to be in a download. And that is because I cannot find it on the disk. Now I'm sure people that disagree with me are getting ready to pull out the old "Disk Locked", or "Otto Said balh blah". Here is my rebuttal. It is called "Data Mining".

The difference between modding and data mining is that modders just set their credits to 9999999999 and boot up the game. Data mining is the act of looking the games code for things not easily seen on-game.

I did not mod my x-box to unlock everything like you may think. Oh no. I'm using a modded version of a program called "MyWarcraftStudio". This allows anyone to enter the file system of the game "World of Warcraft", and then fiddle with them as such. I used to make mods for the game, oh, 3 years ago I think, towards the end of BC. This is besides the point.

Using the program, I inserted a Reach disk, and was able to begin to browse the folders. I found folders for every piece of armor, the corresponding attachments, and armor effects. Including UA chest, Officer, Flames, and Bungie Blue Flames. I did not find anything that I could not identify. While it is not impossible I my have missed anything that is still hidden on this disk, however if I did, there is not much more to come. This leads me to why I believe the armor will be downloaded: simple fan cry out.

We begged all halo 3 long for Blood Gulch. We got it. We begged since Halo CE for pelicans. We got it, even if it is hidden. We cried to nerf the BR, and yes, we got it. And one of our biggest pleas was for new armor. Why oh why oh why would they not incorporate this into a game that they basically re-built from the ground up? Especially when the focus on a vast armory for the players is one of the main focus points of the game?

Now I'm sure a bunch of you that pulled out your other arguments are saying right now that new armor would only be used in the new maps. To think that this could not be fixed with a simple title update would be so naive that it may warrant and IQ test.

So ion short, due to me not finding it while physically scrolling through code, the large outcry for it, the simplicity and likelihood of an updated armory system, and the shear near impossibility of a new map being build off an old system, I must come to the conclusion that the most likely outcome is that the code for the new armor's visuals will be beamed to my Xbox when the pack comes out, and the code for wearing it will be beamed when I buy the maps.

  • 03.16.2011 8:20 AM PDT

'Sic vis pacem para bellum' (If you want peace, prepare for war.)

Posted by: Twisted Raven


Now I'm sure a bunch of you that pulled out your other arguments are saying right now that new armor would only be used in the new maps. To think that this could not be fixed with a simple title update would be so naive that it may warrant and IQ test.




I agree with everything you said, but especially this part. I've been saying this since the beginning. But everyone says "no, it's impossible to do it that way."

Whatever. Guess I don't know anything about patches and fixes to code.

  • 03.16.2011 8:31 AM PDT

Made in Canada with Scottish parts.

That helmet is going to be the new EVA-[C].

EDIT: Maybe this is a teaser for an upcoming Armor Pack perhaps?

[Edited on 03.16.2011 10:32 AM PDT]

  • 03.16.2011 10:28 AM PDT

i think it might just be special armour for 343 and certain affinity

  • 03.16.2011 10:44 AM PDT

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Keep in mind I almost never quit, I just hate the fact there are over 6 different bans in the game, kind of leads me to think Bungie just enjoy punishing there fanbase.


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we're all masochists, deal with it

Posted by: SdR v John
i think it might just be special armour for 343 and certain affinity

why would they blatantly advertise it if in the end they were to say "nope, you can't have it, only we can. KTHXBAI!"

and don't say viral marketing because that is a dangerous tactic for 343 to use at this time. doing it this early can cause a loss of fans and customers.

  • 03.16.2011 10:47 AM PDT

Posted by: KRUSHER Z
Where's the original picture of teh 5 Spartans in Firefight? Preferably uploaded on a site like IGN, or any other known gaming website.


Just going to quote myself, since I still see no proof that the 5 Spartans in Firefight isn't a photoshopped image.

  • 03.16.2011 10:48 AM PDT


Posted by: iQuINcEy
Posted by: onixasr3
Here's a clue people. If you get the Defiant achievements and try to register them into your milestones. You can see that it doesn't upload. If you take a look at your achievement records for Halo Reach in Halo Waypoint you can see that you haven't earned a single one. I have all 3 but on Waypoint they won't show up. Maybe we have to wait for an update for Halo Waypoint and then we can get that helmet.


is this true? cuz then Thats more proof imo, can anyone else confirm this?


Interesting, I'll take a look later today and see.

  • 03.16.2011 12:50 PM PDT


Posted by: Longhorns Forev
How is it a Gugnir EOD mix In the last photo that's just a flare of shield or explosion near the helmet. It doesn't show up on the first 2 pics, so no new helmet? And probably Bungie/Certain Affinity only chest. Bungie said there wasn't new armor, I haven't seen any yet. If there was armor, Bungie would have talked about "surprises"


Bungie isn't in charge anymore, but 343 has talked about "surprises" and "easter eggs"

  • 03.16.2011 12:54 PM PDT